RE: What can boy groups do now to fight back?

i dont think the songs are the problem

There are tons of bgs putting out songs that are easy to ears

I hope KQ's new group can become sucessfull but than again if they debut many people will most likly shit on them cause I know man y people hate ATEEZ and their company for no reason and would do that to the new group too

I'm not sure but why do their songs need to be popular if they're "selling and touring well", cause isn't the point of being well-known to make more profits? They already achieved the end goal

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yes, funniest thing is even those songs prolly get lower engagements than what people call noisy lol

yup

even here in akp

noisy groups get checked out more for new releases

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they didn't debut yet they already got death threat from nctzens

WTF... why

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kpop stans care lots of about korean validation

if they can't chart in korea, the group is considered flops no matter how much they sell and tour

Seems like the wrong priority then, I don't think companies should feel bad/try to fix it

I have no idea who the artists are that win the country music, r&b, or gospel music of the year awards in Western award shows, but I mean they don't need the attention of the common people, apparently they're already successful anyway

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they had collab stage on kcon japan along with dkz and atbo for nct kick it

one member got Mark's rap part, it got some attention on tiktok, those tiktok kpop stans were saying he did good and that they have mistaken him as Mark, and toxic nctzens discovered it and got triggered by it and dragged the boy

also before that they also got hate for covering tbz' thrill ride and deobis were dragging them and also calling them to disband lol

and on the other hand the same people apreciated and loved it when ATEEZ was rookies and released that one video where they dance to NCT-songs in Macao ...

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yeah, its good as long as u have loyal fanbase and stable income stream

but its tiring when ur faves be dragged everyday for not having hit song

Yeah and it feels bad when no one else is excited about their comeback, or nitpicking every little thing about it like with big 4 groups

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kpop stans care lots of about korean validation

if they can't chart in korea, the group is considered flops no matter how much they sell and tour

some k-pop stans are really weird. they think any group that does well internationally but not korea is a flop but think that acts like brave girls are flops because they aren't popular outside korea. you can't win.

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some k-pop stans are really weird. they think any group that does well internationally but not korea is a flop but think that acts like brave girls are flops because they aren't popular outside korea. you can't win.

Exactly. You don't even need to go too far, aespa last year was extremely dragged for their overseas' performance even though they were getting hit back to hit in Korea.

There's no "the most important metric" in K-pop. It will become important as soon as someone notices is certain group's weakness.

LOL. This issue remind me to soccer fans when they pretend to know more than the DT who have years in the profession and do that for living. I bellieve any thing you can think about this was already thought by companies. My point is fans really dont know shit and just mention common places. "they need to build a strong fanbase", "they need to make better music" "Better promotions",etc
Bah, losers, if somebody really have a good idea then go and find a job in a Kpop company and make X group the number one instead of sharing your "brilliant take" in a public forum.

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some k-pop stans are really weird. they think any group that does well internationally but not korea is a flop but think that acts like brave girls are flops because they aren't popular outside korea. you can't win.

And that are the same people who get mad on other artists invading Korean music scene, than getting confused when a Japanese or American music act apears in Korea and than drag their fave KPop-act to debut a Japanese album wich they even brag about even if they most likly will never listen to it and than get all facts wrong and think their fave was the biggest idol of all time in Japan for just selling good over there even tho many JPop-acts still sell more than that one Korean artist and if you try to tell them otherwise they get mad for telling you the truth and if you have an underrated fave who hit a big song with more than 10 million views on YT than many people will downplay them and be rude, just for "lol 15 million views on YT but they only sold 12K CDs?" and most likly will asume in the next second that 90% of all streams would be from some "ads" and if the songs arn't streamed cause of the ads, than they will get shook on how they didn't sold more "my faves have an MV with 20 million views on YT, 12 million streams on Spotify and they sold 200K CDs, so why is your fave so weak? They have 20 million views on YT, 5 million streams on Spotify and only sold 18K CDs ... thats fishy"

And than there are also the people who give no fucks for groups who can't sell as much as their faves and demand everyone they like to be million seller or else they won't stan them. Than they get even offended about artists they don't even stan and probably not even listen to as for example 1 year ago someone wrote on AKP that Hybe should've disbanded NU'EST a long time ago for not selling more than 300K since they would be a waste of money. Dude most KPop-acts don't even come close to 50K so 300K is good !

I miss the time where most KPop-stans were just hyped for a new release and discussed how good their faves look like without being toxic to eachother