And the witchhunting of Vata continues... toxicity in kpop

It seems the only way for ateez stans to bring attention to ateez is by bitching and whining all the time otherwise nobody gives a fuck about them

*Somebody breaths oxygen*

Ateez stans: "omg they copied my oppar", "gib attention to my oppars, they are from nugu company", "my oppars have been breathing oxygen before that person" lmao 😂

"A witchhunt"... i don't even seem them being that bad in the screenshots

The first comment. Why bring BTS? Wuss

Not surprised by ateez stan

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First off, yes it is uncalled for, for people to send hate and death threats to him.

The issue about his "response" is that it wouldn't be that bad I feel, if he acknowledged the similarities

But instead he tries to make it sound like it is our fault for pointing out the similarities

whats wrong with the move being similar though? Moves arent copyrighted, people use and re-use existing moves all of the time but they dont get accused of plagiarism by the original inventors.

The other moves he uses in the rest of his routine also originated from somebody else initially but they aren't attacking him over the fact that he used them to create his choreography.

This is whole thing is being blown out of proportion.

Death threats should never be a thing I agree. But oh boy imagine a grown ass man taking responsibility for something he did, unheard of! Not surprised you're defending him tho lol

People going mad over a dumb move that looks like some ostrich dancing lmao

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Because taking responsibility stops the hate and death threats right? Thats exactly how kpop works, no one holdes grudges😂

You take responsibility because it is the right thing to do. Do you think not taking that accountability is making them go away either. Dumb af if you think so

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Really? what more do you need!

None of them are even bad lmao.

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None of them are even bad lmao.

Like there are not even one LTG lighting meme on this .

This is a non issue. There were a few artists who did the jumping rope dance from Mic Drop and ARMY didn't give one f$%@. Dance moves are the most recycled piece of content in music. Could he have said he was inspired? Sure. But he doesn't have to. Unless he copied the entire choreography from start to finish, then I don't see the problem. For all the recycling of key dance moves in girl groups you would think girl group fans would be worse than Ateez stans.....

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that's not even a witch hunt, that's calling him out for what he is...took him DAYS to come out with whatever bullshit he just spewed out of his ass...of course we are pissed...we simply wanted him to ACKNOWLEDGE what he's done and take ownership considering he's literally friends with Ateez and this is what he gives.

We have a right to be pissed off.

As I agree with icy, no he shouldn't be receiving death threats etc. but he damn well should have responded much better than that. He's not a victim in this...don't make him out to be one..

Days? Haven't people been talking about this plagiarism think for weeks but he just ignored it all until the actual choreographers finally called him out? Man had weeks to come clean or at least come up with a better response than 'naw mad I made it and ya'll just want to chip in on my fame and talent'

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This is a non issue. There were a few artists who did the jumping rope dance from Mic Drop and ARMY didn't give one f$%@. Dance moves are the most recycled piece of content in music. Could he have said he was inspired? Sure. But he doesn't have to. Unless he copied the entire choreography from start to finish, then I don't see the problem. For all the recycling of key dance moves in girl groups you would think girl group fans would be worse than Ateez stans.....

Exactly. You can see the same key moves being rehashed and rehashed again in kpop choreos all the time but never is there this level of outrage and aggravation. This really didn't need to become such an issue at all.

waiting for fortnite to steal it next and see what happens

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This is a non issue. There were a few artists who did the jumping rope dance from Mic Drop and ARMY didn't give one f$%@. Dance moves are the most recycled piece of content in music. Could he have said he was inspired? Sure. But he doesn't have to. Unless he copied the entire choreography from start to finish, then I don't see the problem. For all the recycling of key dance moves in girl groups you would think girl group fans would be worse than Ateez stans.....

Didn't he use it for a part of the competition that was meant to be about ORIGINAL choreo (from start to finish) and won said round then went onto claim it was originally his?

Army's not caring about the jump rope dance is completely different. Were those people trying to claim they created the jump rope dance and profit from it? no. Sure you don't get royalty's for choreo, but your creativity in making something new and unique for a group helps choreographers get work. No-one would have cared if he gave credit, or said it inspired him but he didn't. He is trying to take ownership. Same way fans get pissed when tiktokers take choreo used in kpop dances and claim they made it but worse because he is a creator himself and would be pissed if the shoe was on the other foot.

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The attacks only started after that ateez member called him out. Well he didnt and it shouldnt be this big of a deal.

We must run in different circles then, I'm not even a fan of Ateez but from the moment the episode dropped people have been calling him out for it and I couldn't not see it.

This post is from mid September - https://m.pann.nate.com/talk/3…&rankingType=total&page=1

Actual attacks like this are horrible and unwarranted yes, but thats exactly how his statement reads to me. These are direct quotes from his statement 'I thought that this was merely a cold breeze that would pass by,...I think that it is completely different from the intent and connection between the movements of the choreography to which it is currently being compared...I think it’s admirable when artists and choreographers respect one another. However, it seems like that isn’t the case [right now], which I find very unfortunate.' so Knew about this but thought it wouldn't become big, I made it and I think its different because the intention when making the move was different and these people calling me out aren't being respectful.

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He never claimed it to be his move, why spread misinformation?

The choreo being original doesnt mean every single move in it has to be original

From his statement 'When I first heard the music, I was reminded of a plain in the wilderness, and I created the intro choreography to depict arriving on a motorcycle or horseback'.