Do you think there's tension between Yuqi and Shuha?

While I've often wondered about their relationship myself, and how well they actually get along off-camera, I haven't seen anything that made me think Yuqi is all that vocal about supporting the CCP. I think she might've posted the same social media propaganda imagery that all other Chinese celebrities post at some point or another, but I haven't seen anything else overtly political from her. Granted, I don't follow them that closely. So is there something I missed?

She's vocal about it? I mean I wouldn't be surprised ofc if she was pro-CCP. Assuming even that she is vocal about it, they probably don't talk about it with each other.

All Chinese celebrities post pro-China stuff on weibo/sns and most of these posts are almost identical. I wouldn't really take it to mean that they actually support the actions of their government. It's more that they can't afford not to be publicly supportive if they want to maintain their careers. Also, didn't Tzuyu also apologize and say stuff about one China because otherwise Twice would have risked a ban in China? I am sure she isn't pro-China but probably apologized because JYP didn't want to give up on Chinese money.

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I mean I would consider that overtly political, she has clearly, publicly, and vocally supported CCP and the One China policy. And I'm not gonna debate if those views are okay or not but like she has them. And Shuha has never posted anything like that even though many idols from Taiwan also support CCP.

It's political, but in the "least effort required" sort of way. It's often speculated that Chinese celebrities have to post those things if they want a career in China, which Yuqi clearly does. I wouldn't really call her "vocal" unless she talks about it elsewhere.

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All Chinese celebrities post pro-China stuff on weibo/sns and most of these posts are almost identical. I wouldn't really take it to mean that they actually support the actions of their government. It's more that they can't afford not to be publicly supportive if they want to maintain their careers. Also, didn't Tzuyu also apologize and say stuff about one China because otherwise Twice would have risked a ban in China? I am sure she isn't pro-China but probably apologized because JYP didn't want to give up on Chinese money.

JYP made her apologize... only for Twice to get banned in China anyway. I'm certain she didn't mean any of it. She also seems to have dropped Elkie for Shuhua as her best Chinese-speaking friend ever since the former started displaying her big CCP energy.

Can you post evidence of all her CCP support?

If you follow their content you would know they get along incredibly and love each other. They have a great relationship. They're also roommates.

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Kinda disagree with you on that. Even if they're doing it for money they are still supporting the CCP and as such are pro-CCP. Like they don't get a pass cuz they're doing it for money. No judgment but you can't say they don't support the CCP when they do.

And Shuha surprisingly has never publicly supported the CPP like most Tawinaes idols even though Yuqi and Cube are pro-CCP.

I am not saying they don't support CCP but China isn't a democracy. The celebs aren't free to choose. This last year an actor was suspected of going to a Japanese shrine and ended up getting banned from the industry completely and him and his family was subject to constant harassment by so called pro-China fans. That's how Chinese entertainment is...the fans are very vicious as well. You don't post on one national holiday and suddenly, you are not being patriotic. Hence, online weibo posts aren't the best measure for deciding if someone is pro-CCP or not.

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what do you mean? like the stuff with her happened years ago (honestly the fact that china banned them anyway is karma). But like when did she drop elkie? and why drop shuha? she has never openly supported CCP. spill girl spill

Her and Elkie stopped posting about each other shortly after she left CLC and started posting Chinese propaganda in order to get a job there.

I said she dropped Elkie for Shuhua, meaning Shuhua is the one she hangs out with now.

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hmmm, did she post elkie a lot and now posts shuha? cuz i follow twice but i haven't seen anything like that. not trying to say you're wrong. just asking out of curiosity

Yes. There were quite a few photos of Tzuyu on Elkie's social media. They were all deleted.

Why would Yuqi and Shuhua have ‘tension’ just because their governments have always had political tension?

In the real world, plenty of Chinese and Taiwanese people are still family, friends, co-workers, and business partners.

For people asking if theres proof of Yuqi supporting CCP, all I could kind was this:

Which is from a bunch of Chinese Idols posting support for One China Policy

and this:

Where she supposedly posted against the Hong Kong freedom protests a few years back

Yuqi seems to only support the CCP so she can make money in China as a Chinese citizen she has to follow the line or face repercussions.

I think Shuhua is careful to not say anything political, because G-idle makes good money in China, She probably learned from the Tzuyu thing and just stays quiet.

Taiwan numba wan

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It's political, but in the "least effort required" sort of way. It's often speculated that Chinese celebrities have to post those things if they want a career in China, which Yuqi clearly does. I wouldn't really call her "vocal" unless she talks about it elsewhere.

JYP made her apologize... only for Twice to get banned in China anyway. I'm certain she didn't mean any of it. She also seems to have dropped Elkie for Shuhua as her best Chinese-speaking friend ever since the former started displaying her big CCP energy.

Elkie did leave Korea, I am sure is hard to keep track.

Many of the Chinese speaking girls studied together here and there, not sure how many are best friends or just get along.

One thing this thread reminds me is American-Chinese snowboarder Eileen Gu.

At least Eileen gets a pass from the CCP and she does not have to post pro-CCP things, but she knows she has to stay quiet and not criticize the CCP.

Is a good arraignment, she keeps her mouth shut about China politics and she makes tons of money promoting snow boarding in China.

They are coworkers so ofc they are cordial with each other. That's how you professionally act. I don't go around beefing with every coworker I don't politically align with.

I mean life in China doesn’t allow for freedom of expression and there are harsh consequences if you if speak against the govt. So I don’t judge any celebrities since they are also citizens.

I see many ppl expecting celebs to do and it just feels wrong because if you strongly believe it - THEN you should take action - don’t expect celebs to do so especially when you haven’t done anything beside posting online. Even more strange if have an opinion without doing your own research to understand the history.

The history between mainland China, Hong Kong, and Taiwan isn’t a simple issue. Different groups within each country have different wants and takes. There’s a long history, power imbalance, and claims for independence. I asked my Chinese relatives re HK - they all agree that HK is part of China but seem more progressive re Taiwan. I asked my friend from Hong Kong re their independence and she said it’ll never happen because HK has always belonged to China except the British colonization phase. And since the British never gave independence to HK but GAVE HJ back to China, independence will never happen without a war. Within her own family, some members want HK to be part of China while others moved to Singapore.

For Taiwan, there was always an indigenous population there before the Chinese and Japanese came, but sadly they are a minority now. All of my Taiwanese friends - all firmly believe that Taiwan should be independent and this stems back to never supporting the communist and they have independent govt etc. Many of them do have family and friend ties or business with mainland too.

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she has posted on her weibo multiple times. also if I remember correctly one-time KBS called Shuha a Taiwanese member or sth like that. And c fans complained cuz anti china, cube made a statement essentially saying KBS was wrong to call Shuha Taiwanese, and Yuqi "thanked fans for their concern" on Weibo. but Shuha never said anything publicly. Now I might not remember correctly so google it yourself but I'm 90% sure it happened like that.

multiple times? i only remember once years ago, she barely speak about politics in general

Shuhua and Yuqi are good friends and always has been, they look even more closer this days lol

both of them are not making it a problem or making it obvious for the fans to take notice of any conflict between the members so fans shouldn't make it a problem for them by bring it up every so often

This person, clearly has no idea about the group, keeps being airy fairy ("oh i think I remembered something") and insinuating stuff, all the while saying "oh just google it". Wish they'd followed their own advice on that one. Ironic.

What a nasty little troll.

Yuqi has posted a few things that almost every Chinese National Celebrity (and a few who aren't, such as Jackson) has. Her only main controversial post was the Hong Kong protests, which was kind of an expected thing by Chinese nationals, but would probably mark as the only post that would paint her as anything "pro-ccp".

Other comments are just celebrating Chinese National Day and that ilk, a little video supporting Korean/Chinese ties (by the Chinese Embassy in Korea) and a few other things. She has gone back to China to have extensive solo schedules, and is expected there again in 2023 for more solo schedules. She has to toe the line somewhat, but even her efforts on Weibo basically consist of the bare minimum at the best of times -

She hasn't even gone anywhere near the level of support some do, and she was harassed over Weibo for not posting anything regarding the recent Nancy Pelosi visit to Taiwan, which she stayed completely silent on.
She was very careful about the Olympics (which got NingNing in trouble domestically) and basically as much as it is possible for a chinese celebrity avoided commenting unnecessarily about anything like that.

Shuhua is active on Weibo, and has posted about stuff regarding things happening in China, recently the attack on Women that caused outrage a little while back. Shuhua is extremely popular on Weibo and Instagram as someone that fans say stuff to, and get a reaction from her. It's a very popular thing on Weibo in particular, and considered a mark of honor to get a snappy Shuhua comeback.

In their behind the scenes, the two seem very good friends - if you followed either of their Instagrams, you'd see it. Is it all a show act? Of course it's hard to tell, but there's been pics of just the two of them on shopping trips/little vacations etc. That level of intimacy, sharing their time outside of anything official suggests to most they get along quite well.

TLDR - Their good friends, they get along well, Yuqi basically does the bare minimum of Chinese posts to ensure her career (and Idle's, let's be real) in China. Her lack of involvement in Nationalistic stuff, and self-management in China with Cube's lack of comment about Chinese matters in general already led to Yuqi's own Chinese Bar boycotting Idle's I Never Die album.

So you can stop with your vague recollections and leading questions now.

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This person, clearly has no idea about the group, keeps being airy fairy ("oh i think I remembered something") and insinuating stuff, all the while saying "oh just google it". Wish they'd followed their own advice on that one. Ironic.

What a nasty little troll.

Yuqi has posted a few things that almost every Chinese National Celebrity (and a few who aren't, such as Jackson) has. Her only main controversial post was the Hong Kong protests, which was kind of an expected thing by Chinese nationals, but would probably mark as the only post that would paint her as anything "pro-ccp".

Other comments are just celebrating Chinese National Day and that ilk, a little video supporting Korean/Chinese ties (by the Chinese Embassy in Korea) and a few other things. She has gone back to China to have extensive solo schedules, and is expected there again in 2023 for more solo schedules. She has to toe the line somewhat, but even her efforts on Weibo basically consist of the bare minimum at the best of times -

She hasn't even gone anywhere near the level of support some do, and she was harassed over Weibo for not posting anything regarding the recent Nancy Pelosi visit to Taiwan, which she stayed completely silent on.
She was very careful about the Olympics (which got NingNing in trouble domestically) and basically as much as it is possible for a chinese celebrity avoided commenting unnecessarily about anything like that.

Shuhua is active on Weibo, and has posted about stuff regarding things happening in China, recently the attack on Women that caused outrage a little while back. Shuhua is extremely popular on Weibo and Instagram as someone that fans say stuff to, and get a reaction from her. It's a very popular thing on Weibo in particular, and considered a mark of honor to get a snappy Shuhua comeback.

In their behind the scenes, the two seem very good friends - if you followed either of their Instagrams, you'd see it. Is it all a show act? Of course it's hard to tell, but there's been pics of just the two of them on shopping trips/little vacations etc. That level of intimacy, sharing their time outside of anything official suggests to most they get along quite well.

TLDR - Their good friends, they get along well, Yuqi basically does the bare minimum of Chinese posts to ensure her career (and Idle's, let's be real) in China. Her lack of involvement in Nationalistic stuff, and self-management in China with Cube's lack of comment about Chinese matters in general already led to Yuqi's own Chinese Bar boycotting Idle's I Never Die album.

So you can stop with your vague recollections and leading questions now.

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Maybe OP needs to see Shuhua posting Yuqi's pic 5 times a day on every weekend to get the conclusion that they don't have any political conflicts

Anw, I'm more believing that if they had a tension or beef, it's because their butt argumentation or the forgiving cheaters, or the perilla leaves debate.

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She hasn't even gone anywhere near the level of support some do, and she was harassed over Weibo for not posting anything regarding the recent Nancy Pelosi visit to Taiwan, which she stayed completely silent on.

She wants them dollars.

All joking aside, wasn't she literally on tour in the US as that was happening? Awkward! She would have to be nuts in order to say the sort of things those Chinese fans likely wanted her to say.