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Life as a black kpop stan 2.0
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wait was i supposed to post this here lmao
yeah this has to do with kpop and its certainly not about music, news, or gossip so i think it belongs here.
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glad we still have this space
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Is there a taglist for this?
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hey hey hey
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oooooooogahi this is their new username
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oooooooogahi this is their new username
Thx :)
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:D:D
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oooooooogahi this is their new username
Ahh okay, thank you for letting me know
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Ahh okay, thank you for letting me know
np
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Yullo
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Finally made it to this ghetto site. Wish it wasn’t so bland
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Can you add me to the tag list pls
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Finally made it to this ghetto site. Wish it wasn’t so bland
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hey, glad you're here
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can i be added to the tag list
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Yonsei University is studying black kpop fans. It’s being sponsored by Big Hit. I saw this on LSA. I don’t know how I feel about this...
People on LSA were not happy about this at all though.
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Yonsei University is studying black kpop fans. It’s being sponsored by Big Hit. I saw this on LSA. I don’t know how I feel about this...
People on LSA were not happy about this at all though.
ohh wth thats kinda weird
i dont think theres anything special about studying us like we are just normal fans like every other people lmao.
yoo is there a link lol i gotta read this...
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Yonsei University is studying black kpop fans. It’s being sponsored by Big Hit. I saw this on LSA. I don’t know how I feel about this...
People on LSA were not happy about this at all though.
i heard about something like that in this video:
External Content youtu.beContent embedded from external sources will not be displayed without your consent.Through the activation of external content, you agree that personal data may be transferred to third party platforms. We have provided more information on this in our privacy policy.it was a paper from 2019. it seems bh has a history of sponsoring stuff like this.
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Wassup
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Yonsei University is studying black kpop fans. It’s being sponsored by Big Hit. I saw this on LSA. I don’t know how I feel about this...
People on LSA were not happy about this at all though.
That's so weird....black kpop fans aren't really any different from your average KPOP fan so what are they trying to do...why can't they just study about kpop fans in general...
I think BH has a history of sponsoring this type of stuff as seen with the video someone linked above. It's kind of creepy and invasive though...but I'm just going to assume they want to target the international market lmao
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ohh wth thats kinda weird
i dont think theres anything special about studying us like we are just normal fans like every other people lmao.
yoo is there a link lol i gotta read this...
i heard about something like that in this video:
External Content youtu.beContent embedded from external sources will not be displayed without your consent.Through the activation of external content, you agree that personal data may be transferred to third party platforms. We have provided more information on this in our privacy policy.it was a paper from 2019. it seems bh has a history of sponsoring stuff like this.
That's so weird....black kpop fans aren't really any different from your average KPOP fan so what are they trying to do...why can't they just study about kpop fans in general...
I think BH has a history of sponsoring this type of stuff as seen with the video someone linked above. It's kind of creepy and invasive though...but I'm just going to assume they want to target the international market lmao
It’s from a blog. They write the presentation they experienced at Yonsei.
Presentation 3: Taking Intersectional Approach to BTS: Focusing on Black Female Fandom of BTS
Oh boy, this one was a surprising one to see on the list and also one presentation I looked forward too because yes, this proves BigHit actually acknowledges the existence of BTS’s black fans, but do they necessarily care about your problems? Hahahahaha, no.
Great Start
The lady who presented this started with this slide of characteristics of black fans in BTS’s ARMY. Specifically, some of the discussion that circulates within this specific circle that you can see through the graininess of my photo that this includes: mockery, appropriation, and appreciation.
The title of this slide is is just questioning why BTS? As in why study them which the answers are obvious but from my notes I wrote down these particulars:
- BTS is a phenomenal and has garnered a unique fandom thanks to the social media landscape. How do these fans interact with each other?
- And as they are gaining more popularity around the world, what kind of racial and cultural effect does it have when going beyond Asia?
- Also, K-pop is a hybrid culture itself. K-pop should be more interpreted as a complicated process.
And apparently she also interviewed about 10 black fans while also gathering some data off of Twitter. Unfortunately, I don’t have the pictures for that but I do have this:
Enjoy the Snapchat screen
I had thought that Snapchat’s camera would be a bit better since for whatever reason, my camera zooms in more when on the app, so I have a couple of pictures like the one above. But someone, please explain how that works–I’m an old woman and don’t understand. Anyways, this presentation went in a slightly different direction than I had assumed as the presenter started talking about black women questioning whether Asian men liked them while also wrestling with their feelings for them. It was interesting, I guess, as I assume that the thought has crossed the minds of many black fans within the K-pop fandom.
Though I couldn’t help but feel somewhat embarrassed seeing this artwork when this slide popped up. Very good artistic skills and quality but again, knowing that this was being filmed and that I know that Bang Shi-hyuk and his lackeys were probably going to watch all this back in some shady room within their shady company building, I felt as if this came across as black fans being kinda thirsty for Asian men than anything.
Hmm, I wonder if BTS saw any of this? Imagine that.
The Curse Returns
Sincerity of Hip-Hop…(from my notes, so I guess she said something along this lines. Probably BTS’s sincerity of Hip-Hop shows in their music choices. e.g. J-hope’s Chicken Noodle Soup).
This photo shows a screenshot from Chicken Noodle Soup along with one of the cameramen filming the conference. The presenter, I believe, was just explaining how BTS has incorporated black culture into their songs and yada yada yada. You know, good stuff. There wasn’t mention how some fans, not just black actually, were discontent with some of the characteristics of this video namely with some lyrics and J-hope’s hair. But again, this was a BigHit-sponsored conference, what do you expect?
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It’s from a blog. They write the presentation they experienced at Yonsei.
Presentation 3: Taking Intersectional Approach to BTS: Focusing on Black Female Fandom of BTS
Oh boy, this one was a surprising one to see on the list and also one presentation I looked forward too because yes, this proves BigHit actually acknowledges the existence of BTS’s black fans, but do they necessarily care about your problems? Hahahahaha, no.
Great Start
The lady who presented this started with this slide of characteristics of black fans in BTS’s ARMY. Specifically, some of the discussion that circulates within this specific circle that you can see through the graininess of my photo that this includes: mockery, appropriation, and appreciation.
The title of this slide is is just questioning why BTS? As in why study them which the answers are obvious but from my notes I wrote down these particulars:
- BTS is a phenomenal and has garnered a unique fandom thanks to the social media landscape. How do these fans interact with each other?
- And as they are gaining more popularity around the world, what kind of racial and cultural effect does it have when going beyond Asia?
- Also, K-pop is a hybrid culture itself. K-pop should be more interpreted as a complicated process.
And apparently she also interviewed about 10 black fans while also gathering some data off of Twitter. Unfortunately, I don’t have the pictures for that but I do have this:
Enjoy the Snapchat screen
I had thought that Snapchat’s camera would be a bit better since for whatever reason, my camera zooms in more when on the app, so I have a couple of pictures like the one above. But someone, please explain how that works–I’m an old woman and don’t understand. Anyways, this presentation went in a slightly different direction than I had assumed as the presenter started talking about black women questioning whether Asian men liked them while also wrestling with their feelings for them. It was interesting, I guess, as I assume that the thought has crossed the minds of many black fans within the K-pop fandom.
Though I couldn’t help but feel somewhat embarrassed seeing this artwork when this slide popped up. Very good artistic skills and quality but again, knowing that this was being filmed and that I know that Bang Shi-hyuk and his lackeys were probably going to watch all this back in some shady room within their shady company building, I felt as if this came across as black fans being kinda thirsty for Asian men than anything.
Hmm, I wonder if BTS saw any of this? Imagine that.
The Curse Returns
Sincerity of Hip-Hop…(from my notes, so I guess she said something along this lines. Probably BTS’s sincerity of Hip-Hop shows in their music choices. e.g. J-hope’s Chicken Noodle Soup).
This photo shows a screenshot from Chicken Noodle Soup along with one of the cameramen filming the conference. The presenter, I believe, was just explaining how BTS has incorporated black culture into their songs and yada yada yada. You know, good stuff. There wasn’t mention how some fans, not just black actually, were discontent with some of the characteristics of this video namely with some lyrics and J-hope’s hair. But again, this was a BigHit-sponsored conference, what do you expect?
wow that's worse than what i expected. they should know that not all bts or kpop fans are straight or straight passing women. our conversations about appropriation are not motivated by feelings of wanting to be accepted/loved by our idols or anything, we just want to be respected and for idols to not continue being racist. i wish they had talked more about the problems we face without putting it through an ambw or romantic lense. i know the company is literally selling that "relationship" to us, that's the whole point of kpop. but it's kind of weird to view appropriation as an aspect of that tbh.
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wow that's worse than what i expected. they should know that not all bts or kpop fans are straight or straight passing women. our conversations about appropriation are not motivated by feelings of wanting to be accepted/loved by our idols or anything, we just want to be respected and for idols to not continue being racist. i wish they had talked more about the problems we face without putting it through an ambw or romantic lense. i know the company is literally selling that "relationship" to us, that's the whole point of kpop. but it's kind of weird to view appropriation as an aspect of that tbh.
Black women are extremely loyal too. People at LSA discussing this think they’re “studying us” because they think they can make a lot of money off of us. This whole thing just makes me extremely uncomfortable.
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Yonsei University is studying black kpop fans. It’s being sponsored by Big Hit. I saw this on LSA. I don’t know how I feel about this...
People on LSA were not happy about this at all though.
tf
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Can I be added to the taglist, please? I love this so much!
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Yonsei University is studying black kpop fans. It’s being sponsored by Big Hit. I saw this on LSA. I don’t know how I feel about this...
People on LSA were not happy about this at all though.
... studying us? I...
Not me feeling like a lab rat
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It’s from a blog. They write the presentation they experienced at Yonsei.
Presentation 3: Taking Intersectional Approach to BTS: Focusing on Black Female Fandom of BTS
Oh boy, this one was a surprising one to see on the list and also one presentation I looked forward too because yes, this proves BigHit actually acknowledges the existence of BTS’s black fans, but do they necessarily care about your problems? Hahahahaha, no.
Great Start
The lady who presented this started with this slide of characteristics of black fans in BTS’s ARMY. Specifically, some of the discussion that circulates within this specific circle that you can see through the graininess of my photo that this includes: mockery, appropriation, and appreciation.
The title of this slide is is just questioning why BTS? As in why study them which the answers are obvious but from my notes I wrote down these particulars:
- BTS is a phenomenal and has garnered a unique fandom thanks to the social media landscape. How do these fans interact with each other?
- And as they are gaining more popularity around the world, what kind of racial and cultural effect does it have when going beyond Asia?
- Also, K-pop is a hybrid culture itself. K-pop should be more interpreted as a complicated process.
And apparently she also interviewed about 10 black fans while also gathering some data off of Twitter. Unfortunately, I don’t have the pictures for that but I do have this:
Enjoy the Snapchat screen
I had thought that Snapchat’s camera would be a bit better since for whatever reason, my camera zooms in more when on the app, so I have a couple of pictures like the one above. But someone, please explain how that works–I’m an old woman and don’t understand. Anyways, this presentation went in a slightly different direction than I had assumed as the presenter started talking about black women questioning whether Asian men liked them while also wrestling with their feelings for them. It was interesting, I guess, as I assume that the thought has crossed the minds of many black fans within the K-pop fandom.
Though I couldn’t help but feel somewhat embarrassed seeing this artwork when this slide popped up. Very good artistic skills and quality but again, knowing that this was being filmed and that I know that Bang Shi-hyuk and his lackeys were probably going to watch all this back in some shady room within their shady company building, I felt as if this came across as black fans being kinda thirsty for Asian men than anything.
Hmm, I wonder if BTS saw any of this? Imagine that.
The Curse Returns
Sincerity of Hip-Hop…(from my notes, so I guess she said something along this lines. Probably BTS’s sincerity of Hip-Hop shows in their music choices. e.g. J-hope’s Chicken Noodle Soup).
This photo shows a screenshot from Chicken Noodle Soup along with one of the cameramen filming the conference. The presenter, I believe, was just explaining how BTS has incorporated black culture into their songs and yada yada yada. You know, good stuff. There wasn’t mention how some fans, not just black actually, were discontent with some of the characteristics of this video namely with some lyrics and J-hope’s hair. But again, this was a BigHit-sponsored conference, what do you expect?
...this is a lot to process. Whoa.
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Some people are genuinely so uneducated I can't
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These people are shameless. If they're trolling, it's not funny
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sup peeps
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sup peeps
hellooooo!
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