Posts by bzzz

Thailand's top supermarket chain, Lotus', has launched a campaign where 250 persons spending most money at any shop within Lotus' will attend Park Seojun fan meeting event.

A woman named Khemjira reportedly led the board with 50m THB (roughly 1.36m USD).

Khemjira, who was an online merchant, gave an interview that she did not really spend that much. She bought and sold gold bars at a goldsmith's inside Lotus' daily.

Her record was broken today with another woman named Jinattha topping her at 78m (roughly 2.12m USD). I guess she used similar tactic.

The spending will be concluded tomorrow.

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The entire XG strategy is to promote as a K-pop group so it makes that they promote in Korea but not for dream academy

LMFAO

Avex’s CEO Katsumi Kuroiwa on the Challenges of Creating Global Hits: Interview

Billboard Japan interviewed Kuroiwa in recognition of his selection for the 2023 International Power Players list.

www.billboard.com

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You were selected for the 2023 Billboard International Power Players list in recognition of the success of XG’s debut and their appearance in the Mediabase Top 40 Radio Airplay charts, the first time ever for Japanese female artists. Could you start out by discussing some of the challenges you faced with XG’s debut?

Kuroiwa: We launched XGALX, a global artist project behind artists like XG, six years ago, in 2017. This was when the world’s attention was first turning to K-pop. Of course, K-pop already had its fans at the time, but this was about when it started to establish an overwhelming presence due to BTS. Avex has a long history of producing K-pop artists such as BoA, TVXQ, and BIGBANG. We formed a partnership with S.M.entertainment in 2001, and we created a label with YG Entertainment. The strong impression I got through our activities with them was that they were keeping a close eye on the Japanese and global markets. Leveraging this experience, we launched the XGALX project with the aim of creating global hits. Initially, we were aiming for a 2020 debut, but the COVID pandemic but a halt to any major moves, so the debut ended up being in 2022. We built up even more knowledge in the intervening time, so in the end it turned out for the best.

XG is based in Korea, but all of the members are Japanese. How does it differ from K-pop?

Kuroiwa: We have a great respect for K-pop, but what really sets XG apart is their originality and freshness. We built the group together with our partners around the world, taking the best elements from Korea, Japan, and the US. The potential of the members, the music production, the video, and the fashion all came together, overlapping and giving birth to XG. We didn’t want to make them a J-pop or K-pop group, but instead create an all-new genre, X-Pop.

The members of the group had a lot of different ideas about what language the lyrics should be in. Some said that since the members are Japanese, they should sing in Japanese, but ultimately they came to the conclusion that since they’d be targeting the global market, including the Korean market, English would be best. None of the members are native speakers, so we really focused on pronunciation from the very start of their artist development.

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If DA ain't gonna be promoted on Korean shows, where will it be? America's Got Talent or Good Morning America, campus showcase tour, radio play and magazine interviews?

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And yet neither are on Lisa's level of success and let's not act as if natty didn't change her whole face lol.

They did not have to since they could comfortably work in Thailand.

LMFAO. Since Lisa is natural beauty goddess.

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Blehbleh, jealous and delusional.

I support you continue being a fool.

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why this thread is not banned? The comments reeks

Because they desperate for traffic. Many outright troll threads and accounts have been intact.

Quote from nana18

One thing for sure Korea is a really wrong choice for these international groups simply because they don’t match the Korea gg vibes that Koreans love so why try to cater to them ?

Search up XG.

Quote from keyboardwarrior7

And the Korean fanmeet flopped. Why? Because HYBE has not been advertising there.

HYBE, one of the biggest companies in Korea, couldn't get 100 people to show up to an event? No one believes that. They didn't show up because no one knew about it or were interested, and why is that? Because HYBE is not putting importance or focus on them in Korea. Like, duh.

So, because something is flop, it did not happen? HYBE did not want Boynextdoor to be popular? YG did not want Treasure to be a top boy group?

Definitely a logical genius!

Quote from tokki-swag

I mean I guess it doesn't really matter if the prerelease show and all that is popular right now.

As long as once the girls actually debut, they have hype and attention, from their album and concepts...then they'll be good.

Popular pre-release show = high anticipation toward the release + sizable chunk of pre-release fans. And, these do not matter? At all?

Quote from susanamendes

For many people that's all that matters...

No surprise that their govt is acting the way it is.

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I think this completely cements the fact that this group is in no way marketed for Korea. It was also revealed recently that one of the girls is openly queer, so people thinking this group is somehow KPOP with Westerners can drop it lol. Korea is not checking for Dream Academy.

So that begs the question, why did they even have a fanmeet in Korea!?

Should have had it in LA!? I would have tried to go. Like, HYBE, you have some real stars, please don't fumble the bag!? Ya'll already fumbled Adela.

Yes. They definitely gave no crap to Korean market thus, there were Korean contestants, fanmeet in Korea (and not LA) and the training in Korea to perform songs of Korean group with a surprise visit of the said group.

A+ level of logic thinking.

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Maybe you can find people with similar faces all over the world, but with different qualities.

And, you believe a man so elite yet so nice to her + her family can be found at any street corner? Really?

Thai girls of 165+ of height are not rare at all. You did not know what you talked about.

Quote from ElephantPlan

Lmao delusional.

A random foreigner believing he knows Thai beauty standard better than a Thai citizen.

For your information, Thai beauty standard largely align with Chinese one. Natty and Minnie are prettier than her.

Quote from Teudungi21

A2K being the most successful Global Girl group audition show was a surprise. But there ya go

North America is "global"?

Quote from Yohanee

for groups like kep1er and izone are all of their songs premade? like do they have them all created before the group even debuts? because each groups songs all had a very similar sound and concept. this worked for izone but not for kep1er and youd think that theyd start putting out a different style of song at this point

In the case of IZ*One, Han Seongsoo (Pledis' boss) was their executive producer/creative director for 3 releases (La Vie en Rose > Violeta > Fiesta).

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WHO?

Her step father is white (very), and she loves him. Girls tend to look for someone similar to daddy.

And she always said she would like someone that treats her fine, older (meaning, not childish). This dude is flying everywhere she goes, and follows her to each country. That is something only a guy with money can do. He speaks at least 4 languages, plays the piano like a pro, seams to be nice to her, has a good education, conections, won`t be freeloader (yes she is rich too). What is better? Those guys that end up with the Kardashians? hoho nope.

It looks like he truly likes her, i don`t know about love. But i hope for her to find someone who treats her well and she can built a stable relationship, wich is not easy for an average person.

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He introduced her to his family and went all his way to see her family in Thailand. That's respect. She's K-pop superstar yet, he's top of the top elite. He is on a league above her yet, he treats her as equal human. This does not seem like the behavior of an entitled snobbish elite. His whole family even support this relationship. There will be no in-law drama.

He is no charming prince yet, she is just average-looking SEA girl. (Realistically, similar faces won't be difficult to find in Thailand, Myanmar or Cambodia.)

One with enough intelligence to discuss with won't create this thread.

Yes! I know business better than successful businessmen.

Nothing is wrong promoting a song after it was released so?

So, Ahyeon is not leaving?

Why did you make a thread on this bullshit video?

I'm not saying I'm positive with these all "global" group but, the discussion ground of the video is invalid for most parts.

A2K idea came from Republic side, not JYP itself. No idea on Dream Academy.

These projects could take off, were agreed by those American labels, was because, these days, only K-pop could successfully make girl groups. Why should not JYP or HYBE follow the only working formula K-pop? Simon Cowell is aware that his way can make a popular group no more.

Apparently, Vcha has not officially debuted. They surely will get some American media exposure once they do as Republic is a key partner of this.

Vcha seemingly gears toward pre-teen to teenage audiences. Members being so young makes perfect sense while elder 20 years+ members doesn't. Dream Academy possibly eyes for the same demographic.

The mention on NCT Hollywood is completely clueless as S.M has clearly canceled this project.

Real discussions are topics like the marketability of teenage oriented groups and the parasocial culture. What is the spending power of teenagers? Does the style of Vcha resonate with American teenagers? How may they advertise the group to teenagers? How may they promote the group under the lack of proper music shows? Can the parasocial relationship be enacted in the west? Will the west embrace the like of fansign, hi-touch and, if not, what will be their substitute income source? Blah blah blah.

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I was so inspired by I Want that i started buying Pepsi instead of Coke (i usually drink at least a can a week of diet soda). But Pepsi is just way too syrupy, even the diet drinks have excess fake sweetness and not enough carbonation

Pepsi/Coke may taste not exactly the same from country to country. Pepsi here is mildly less sweet to Coke.

Less carbonation means less acidic. This may be healthier.

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First of all, anyone hating on Kepler's music is showing their clapped taste. They have several top level bops and a SOTY contender, and do better than 98 percent of all groups in Kpop tbh in terms of musical quality. Their titles are miles ahead of even Izone ffs.

Secondly, aside from music, Kepler seems like a divided group. You've got the Korean faction on one side and the international faction on the other. I noticed it before and it seems to keep popping up but Yujin always mentions Xiaoting, Hikaru and Bahi as the members she is close with.

I wonder if Kepler should be split up with these four making up one group, and the other Korean members making up a second group. Would be VERY interesting to see the response of the few Kepler fans left, or even Kpop fans in general.

This person and the op need to stop doing drug.

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Who is the most popular member in the group? As in, who will continue to be popular and be successful in entertainment industry when the group disbands?

Probably, if inter fans included, I believe it's Xiaoting. If only Korean concerned, it's Chaehyun. If Japan market singled out, it's Mashiro.

None seems charming enough to be top star on their own.

I assume Mashiro and Yeseo will go to Limelight. I like this group a lot and can see it grows much bigger but, no way they can be on the top tier, somewhere around the upper end of mid-tier at best.

Chaehyun possibly will go solo. I can't see her become IU or Sunmi or anywhere near those levels. It will depend on the song. She has nice sweet voice and fairly nice look but bland on stage.

Xiaoting most likely will go back to China and will be C-lister at best. They are countless prettier celebs than her there. Even those from popular Chinese survival show groups are B listers at best.

Bahi will just fade out. She may just leave showbiz after Kep1er.

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But, if you look at the IZ*ONE girlies, you can see there is a discrepancy in which girls were promoted during their time in IZ*ONE. Yujin and Wonyoung of course got a lot of promotion. But, so did girls like Yena, Eunbi, and Minju. I'm sure that wasn't just due to a discrepancy in popularity and could have also been because maybe their companies actually fought to push the girls behind the scenes while the other girls' companies did not.

Please. Go to eye doctor. You need treatment.

She was my type at all 'coz I was not into kids. When she first appeared on PD 48, I thought she was tall and cute and that's it. When her team rehearsed "Very Very Very" on stage, I knew she was special. Just for the sake of having her as the center, her team completely eclipsed Sakura's team.

I don't know if her final #1 ranking was rigged but, it was crystal clear that she was most popular member in Korea. No question why might Mnet want her the center. If I were CJ ENM's boss, I would even pay Starship for Wonyoung and not the other way around. It was revealed that IZ*One contract expansion failed because 1 exact agency declined. That agency is believed to be Starship. Without Wonyoung + Yujin, IZ*One was worthless to CJ. Yet, you doubted Starship paid Mnet to push Wonyoung?

What questionable is anyone who doubts Wonyoung's star power and thinks Yena, Minju or Eunbi can ever come close to her level, even Sakura can't.

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1. Never believe any date given by yg. They're still not debut yet so they still have time to do anything especially plastic surgery. We don't even know when they will debut.

2. Again, the debut was delayed. Obviously this is not a sudden decision that yg make a week ago. They must already discussing this few months ago and the supposed debut date is just for media play as usual. This is yg why we need to suprise. Bp even mia for 2 years after they being introduced. And as I said, she might undergoing some big procedures which she might not only doing her face but also other part of her body that need longer time to recover. Hips, legs, etc... for example. She will have difficulty to move. If she showing herself in public now, it will put her in another bad spotlight.

3. Point no 2.

4. They are not even debuted yet. It's still not part of their job to say anything. Why should they?

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1. Thus, I said "any time". It could be next month, next year or next of next year. What is an idol-to-be supposed to do under such circumstance? Only get booked for the PS when the MV shooting date is set so the shooting may be postponed because her face has not been fully recovered? Not get ready as quick as possible? Even, some surgeries need touch-up yet, they would not want to get her face done as quick as possible so there would be more than enough time in case of complication? Do you even know that nose job can take 6 months+ for the swelling to be completely gone? Jaw reshaping definitely does not take less time.

2. What did you mean by "hips, legs etc."? Hip implant makes no sense because the Korean does not care that much about broad hips. And, any surgery not on the bone won't make someone limpy for 2+ months.

If an idol shows up with a limpy leg, fans rather assume she got injured rather than cosmetic surgery. Also, she can appeared on video clips seated so no one can notice anything.

3. Ditto.

4. They are not proper debuted idol yet, that must be why they have been regularly uploading video clips to keep fans engaged.

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I think the plastic surgery theory is not out of logic. No way yg gonna let her go after her popularity. Didn't one of the member also dissappear for a month and coming back with a new nose? She might doing some big procedures with her body that cannot be hide. This is korea and entertainment company on top of that. Why people didnt think it make sense?

Perhaps because

- If they were to put her under PS, they must have done so right after the line up was completed so, the girl would have longer time to recover. But, she went missing several weeks after that.

- Regardless how badly her face swollen, she was supposed to frequent YG office to prepare for the debut, which could take place any time. Thus, fans must have spotted a girl in mask among Baemon girls. That was not the case.

- Also, she could have attended the concert with everyone masked.

- Other members must have been aware that fans are worried yet, they have never said anything on Ahyeon to assure fans. They could have said vaguely that she was recovering from "medical treatment" or she was not available at the moment due to "personal mater".