Posts by Chemotter

Quote from crystalblues

Lol one of them is actually an really successful youtuber

I saw a comment that said Bang PD is the 'Korean DiCaprio'. Had no idea, but he likes to date women in their 20s.

There is no way they met by 'accident'. lol

I'm not going to bother clicking it. Don't give traffic to these garbage channels.

AbouTzu. lol I bet JYP was chuckling to himself as he made that album title.

Chaewon, Chungha, Soyeon, Yuqi, Lee Youngji and Psy.

Good songs are all they need. I think Kpop fans are overestimating how much the general public cares about live performances.

They'll be fine, but I think Hybe pulling back LSFM on social media and media appearances really hurt their momentum. That's the part that the LSFM members excel at.

It could do well if they aren't targeting kpop fans as the audience.

The choreo though... It was a mess.

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I'm pretty sure she knows the right pronunciation of "fake" and the stereotypical dojikko girl acting is too over the top. Japanese women don't act like that in real life. She still hasn't learned her lesson...

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I'm not going to bash a Korean idol from leaning into doing aegyo stuff, so I'm not sure what is wrong for Rei try to play up certain aspects of being Japanese. She's trying to differentiate herself in a group where Wonyoung draws most of the attention.

I think Rei is very intelligent, and she knows what she is doing. You can tell from the quips that she comes up with during variety shows that she has a talent towards humor.

It plays very well with the domestic crowd.

It is why 다나카/Tanaka, who is a Korean playing a Japanese host, has been so popular in the past year. Japanese and Koreans find him amusing, and I doubt they are offended by Rei too.

Sakura from LSFM also talked about playing up a character to get popular during her ABK48 stint.

I forget which interview, but she mentioned that she was trying to differentiate herself from the other members at the time. That was why she did what she did.

Rei is making a business move, and I respect it.

Chodan. I've been exposed to her content through her boxing/sports content before QWER.

Quote from K-PL

People have just given up posting here in disgust. What is the point of engaging with people who condone bullying and sexual harassment?

With workplace bullying, which is sexual harassment when it is a male in power to female subordinate. There is no grey. It is black or white. You either make up some excuse to condone it or you don't.

Sexual harassment is a form of bullying, but not all bullying is sexual harassment. This is quite simple to understand, and I'm not sure why you are trying to conflate the two.

It is dishonest.

This is a simple question. What was the sexual component of the bullying? Why did Hybe's HR clear the exec of wrongdoing?

The exec in question left the subordinate with a client, because an emergency came up. He made a sexist/misogynistic comment, and he was in the wrong. However, that isn't sexual harassment unless you are implying that the exec purposefully left the woman there so she can perform sexual favors to the client.

However, HR would have looked into the emergency that came up. I'm guessing his alibi checked out, and the client did nothing towards the female employee.

The bullying accusation came later when the female employee thought the exec was messing with her on purpose.

So why is MHJ being accused of condoning sexual harassment?

Quote from YamaChwan

This is huge.

Would the previously vocal and present but now mysteriously silent and absent HYBE apologists like to weigh in on the last 48 hours of updates?

I want to see how you'll yap and spin HYBE leaking footage and medical information of minors, weaponizing sexual assault fraudulently and now getting exposed for conducting their own off the record audit and leaking their "findings"

Honestly, each of you should come in here and apologize. Even if you think MHJ is a calculative and manipulative bitch, the things HYBE have done to attack her are pure evil

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Hybe kinda screwed themselves. They requested a restriction on outsiders viewing the court records. That really limits who would have access to the audit.

‘민희진 카톡’, 수사기관도 회계법인도 아니라는데…누가 유출했나

[일요신문] 산하 레이블 어도어(ADOR)의 민희진 대표와 경영권 분쟁이 붙은 하이브(HYBE)가 이번엔 내부감사보고서 유출 문제로 곤욕을 치르고 있다. 민 대표...

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It seems it wasn't just the KKT that was leaked. It was an audit report containing the KKT that was leaked.

Samil PWC accounting came out and said that's not the audit report that they created, so it must be an internal audit document created by Hybe.

The article states that there is almost zero chance that the Yongsan Police or the court leaked it. That leaves Hybe. Either they have a leak/mole or they released it intentionally to Dispatch. Both scenarios are problematic for Hybe.

50% of the song is just repeat of too much much much and touch touch touch.

Very Illit-esque in how it sounds. Hybe is really out of ideas it seems.

Quote from Tatiana1820

MHJ got a LOT of dirt on hybe concerning their treatement of ador and njs. They know they can’t win going the clean way.

So all hybe's attempt scream one word: DESPERATE.

Specially after their blitzkrieg 3 day characte assassination media play. They probably thought MHJ would fall apart or smth.

To f*cking bad for them, she ain't ever giving up! MHJ is a BADASS !

And since then, it's just vicious damage control bullcrap .

MHJ outsmarted these dumbasses long ago .

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Thread kinda quiet now that the biggest cudgel that was used against MHJ is gone.

It all comes out. MHJ might be a foul mouth, but she did everything by book as I've said before. There is a reason why her workers, NJs and parents stick with her.

Also, it seems the accuser wasn't some fresh out of the college, no experience intern. The accuser was semi-recruited for her past work, so there is less of a power imbalance.

Imagine trying to smear someone using this garbage. Hybe said I can go low, but let me just go lower for the hell of it.

I think the problem is Kpop companies are churning out too many Kpop groups.

In the past, you had less competition, and the older groups remained on the 7 year cycle. The older group got shelved.

With the proliferation of streaming, older groups are still relevant, and they don't give up their spots like before.

Then there is the phenomena of regionalization. With international members joining Kpop groups, certain groups perform better in places like SEA, Japan, China, etc.

The rise of social media and its algorithms. Once you fall for a group, social media like reels and tiktok keeps you in a bubble.

The down time between song releases decreases the anticipation for a comeback, and it can make listeners fall into fatigue from listening to Kpop.

I'm sure there are more reasons, but I think this is my reasoning as to why the newer gen girl groups are having a hard time enjoying universal success like Twice & BP.

Quote from Tatiana1820

Do you read korean?

At a cursory glance, it says things like Fearnots are trying to be 팥쥐 or the evil step sister. Others are pointing out how unreasonable it is to memorize birthdays of idols when Hybe has 80 of them. Some are trashing Hybe. Some showing sympathy towards NJ members. Most just think this is idiotic and is in disbelief Fearnots would go this route.

Quote from K-PL

Welcome.

Repeat something 5 times, and the public will believe it. However this time its more detailed info. Drip Drip Drip. They got 40,000 kakaotalks. This will keep going and going and they will release more and more every news cycle which is a couple of days. Like what 50-50's company did. She don't have bots now to manipulate the public perception.

I don't think you understand that the more you try the same method the less effective it is. You better knock it out of the park the first few times or people get desensitized by it.

Dripping information is effective if the info gets progressively worse. There better be a punchline at the end. So far Hybe hasn't been able to deliver.

Quote from ThePhantomThief

Nah the troll has been quite clear in the past they don't trust HYBE at all. If it's hybe, it's bad. Until it suits.

Even in private conversation, if that is what she really believes, how likely is it that sheis REALLY going to act in someone reporting harassments best interest (or did in this case)? Is she truly going to be an advocate for that person, or anyone in the future, if thats the mindset she has?

You keep dealing in the hypothetical.

We know what happened. She brought in a third party or Hybe HR to do what is right. It doesn't matter what she believes, because she was smart enough to follow the procedure in place.

The executive is innocent until proven guilty. This isn't the court of public opinion.

Yes, I would trust her. It doesn't matter what her mindset is because she followed protocol in the end. That's the ideal way to handle this. There are advocates in HR that will fight for the accuser.

Quote from ThePhantomThief

I've always been of the opinion that her words were bad. She spoke about an alleged victim like shit and said some anti-feminist stuff too boot. I didn't think she was trying to cover it up.

Also, the article translation uses the word victim.

Quote from ThePhantomThief

So... you believe HYBE's judgement? You're the one who is MUCH more vocal about never, ever believing HYBE. Why is this situation the outlier for you?

She did it in a private conversation. From the snippets of the KKT, she brought the employee into Ador, and she feels betrayed.

However in her official capacity, she went through all the correct steps.

Also, this is about trusting Hybe's HR and legal department. That's not the same as trusting Hybe leadership.

All the sublabels share Hybe's infrastructure for PR, HR, legal, etc. Hybe encouraged using everything in-house. With the Me too movement, I'm sure Hybe was thorough.

I don't like the language since women have it tough in the workplace already and MHJ's mentality on this subject can be very damaging.

However, Hybe is unearthing already settled issue for character assassination. This has very little to do with the lawsuit for Breach of Trust. I get why the court threw out the KKT as being irrelevant.