U r just bitter nobody gives a fk about your flop favs even after hybe privilege
When Hybe bought the 51% share previously owned by CJ its smounting to roughly 113M dollars btw so their current valuation at that time is over 200 M dollars with only ENHYPEN as their grp. They may flop in KR but their future and longevity globally are at least assured by fd alone 😂
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Why nj fans complain about those brand not giving nj members campaigns?
Bc there is so much hybe can do
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oh well at least enhypen is proving their worth . go check their emv in 2023. prada earned so much from them. they are 3rd next to bp and bts , so?
enhypen flops in sk , who cares? they are earning a lot globally creating a lot of buzz in most relevant platforms. go check nj tt and see which 4th gen grp tt challenge got most viewed😂
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Enhypen flopped even after all that hybe privilege, go beg bang to get them those deals
ok and yet enhypen has higher emv😂. bgs have longer lives anyways while gg barely stay number 1 in two yrs. nj are not even considered number 1 globally but already beaten in charts globally by a grp everyone thought will flop. thats how karma works😂 . anyways at least im not worshipping a p3do. 😂😂😂😂😂
So because they earned brand deals means they cant be mistreated where even is the correlation here
in what sense are they mistreated though? mistreatment means they are not getting the same opportunities as others . they get more than the others thats what armys are pointing out -- they get more brand deals, hybe lets ador works independently, pay their artists well ( but mhj thinks she shld be paid more than the artists) and get a high end condo, get more vacation leaves than any active grps in hybe, they dont even bother to mingle with others since mhj thinks her grp is way above them. now do they deserve all those perks? yes -- but pt is the " mistreatment allegation is laughable . noone except mhj cult will believe it😂
They got those brand deals because of their popularity and hardwork, it was not free handouts fromhybe
and most of it are tied up with connections . i assure u if they did not debut in hybe, that wont be possible, sure i believe that hybe did not pay the brands cuz thats ridiculous but brands picked them for 2 reasons- they did well and they are from hybe . definitely not bec of mhj😂
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NewJeans is the most popular K-Pop group in the world with BTS temporarily out of the equation and BP on a likely semi permanent hiatus as a group.
If you want stats, click my name and access any of my threads. I'll at least spare this thread from my classic NJ achievement spam and soliloquies
if achievements have no dollar value higher than the grps that are still active it doesnt matter. charts and overhype contributions ( this always takes me out cuz laughable) are not everything to be called number 1.
popularity / profitability is the sum of all $ u earned from charting, album sales, tours, merchs, endorsements and others
in what sense? number 1 in what? sales? profit? charts ? svt ( pledis is the next biggest income generator in hybe not nj ) and skz earned more than nj as well. same with bp ( they are not disbanded) with their con profit & endorsements are way higher than nj .
sns platforms - insta, yt, tiktok, x , fb are they on top for likes and engaments? i dont think so. 😂
just bec their songs are charting higher doesnt mean they are earning more nor more popular. just like magnetic its probably bec their songs are good. but are they more profitable than svt, skz and bp overall?
success will always be measured by $ equivalent. 🤷♀️
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noCan you read? And if you can read, can you comprehend the text you just read? Does my username look like it says "thebadguy" or "Titsanna1969"? No, my name is YamaChan, and I have not once gone to bat for Min Heejin in this thread. If I have, quote THAT in your next response.
If it isn't blatantly obvious to you, I'll spell out the fact that I'm pissed at EVERYBODY. Except NewJeans and ILLIT, who do not deserve this drama during what should be an exciting and fun period for both groups and their fans.
I'm not here to glaze or circlejerk like 99% of the participants of this thread. I am here to keep tabs on a situation that could adversely impact the most popular girl group in K-Pop, NewJeans.
I'm really impressed by how much free labor and representation Hybe has secured in this thread. They don't even have to have these people on their payroll and they're going to bat so hard for them.
But she is not copying them, she is getting inspiration from them it's differentes. She did her research, she leveled up products and aesthetics, she made something different out of it, something unique. that how most art/fashion world works. She has a degree is art/marketing if i remmeber well.
And anybody can see that this products have overall nothing to do with each other or even less compete with each other. What Bang/Belift did was close to parasitism and copying. It's completely diffent.
NJs doesn’t feel or sounds like any other groups specially at the time they debuted and even now.
If you're so dense to not understand the differences, then there's no point talking. It's a boring a** debate anyway.
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she did copy them. its just so old no one remembers immediately. just bec it came from old gen doesnt mean it cant be plagiarized, in short, there is nothing original nor cultural wtv she is doing. she is being cocky and delusional.. mhj is just another creative director or highly skilled paid employee who expected to deliver results if she is really that great, she could have done what bang pd did. bang pd left jyp in good terms. created big hit, recruited bts , went thru ups and downs with them. bts succeeded -- created hybe - created ador - created new jeans but no mhj is just recruit to help source formed a gg, isnt if? in short , she achieved so much bec everything was handed down to her in silver platter - members belong to hybe, resources belong to hybe, connection and even wide variety of inspiration were given to her . like if she wont deliver results despite having vast resources and connections, ill be surprised😂
Reference and copy is not the same. To reference you need to make something new out of it. Nobody just 'creates' everything frop a to z. That's how the fashion industry works too.
Overall NJ as a project stands unique in kpop. Noone sounds or feels like them specially when they debuted. But often you need true passion and a real vision to properly reference and not just copycate.
Like you can see some similarities and inspirations there and there but Ador definitly took this inspies to the next level and anyway is there anyone like NJs in the industry, specially when they debuted before they started this trend? Nope. Not in kpop.
And all other people riding the trend are straight up copycaying nj, just even for the mediaplay and bad buzz value (aka riize, illit).
Ps: moreover mhj often gets inpsi from movies, there's nothing surpising or shocking about it
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so in short onlt mhj can copy from movies , old unknown grps and call it her creatiom but cry a river when some took inspiration from her " creative ideas" that the company paid her to do in the 1st place, that woman really has a big ego. 😂
If the parents were actually the onewho initiated the process to complain to Hybe about illit, then that hurts the validity of MHJ's own argument about Hybe's plagirism. She has worked on the IP afterall, but the parents haven't. This makes unclear who held the original complaints.
Though I understand the parents want the best for their children and think MHJ is the one that can take care of them. It's not for nothing that MHJ mentioned on public television that the parents of the foreign members see her as the Korean mom of their children. They might be prepared to go just as far for MHJ as MHJ is prepared to go for NewJeans.
mhj calling for plagiarism is the funniest things cuz its not solely her idea ( some even was taken fromhybe already existing drawing board) , its not even an original concept . second , even if all are originally hers ( w/c are mot) all her creative work for hybe is owned by hybe . 🤷♀️
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Sorry, I know you Army types don't like hearing BTS be weaponised, but just as a hypothetical...
All Hybe would have to realistically do is "suggest" that any future BTS content won't be put on Melon, distributed to stores, appear on shows etc if those companies... do something Hybe doesn't like *wink wink nudge nudge* and those companies will have to make a very clear choice about which path is the safest.
the thing is most fans dont really work that way. bts have many fans but many are there to simply enjoy them while it lasts . thats whythe call for boycott never works. u just saw a few thousands complaining online madly but irl majority dont care. and in sk, even bts songs are no longer charting that high and long except for jungkook songs bec gp likes it. so fd power is more on album sales, concerts, digital sales globally ( but u need gp to make it longer) , merchs sales etc and hyping or creating buzz for their endorsements.
its not exclusive to hybe or sk. its happening anywhere . like why are we expecting a corp to have emotions when it shld be treated as a separate entity ( not specific to an individual) who must work what's best for the company.
I saw that investors expressed worries about HYBE giving their labels too much freedom, so it's not surprised they are keeping them on a tighter leash after what Ador pulled. Mhj basically screwed over the other labels in the process.
exactly thats whyhybe will never let it go easily. it can be a precedent of future issues. while its not nj fault but they have to be smarter and distance themselves with mhj. so far people view them as victims but the moment they show sympathy to mhj, they will receive a lot of backlash. many will think they are also being ungrateful after enjoying the privileges as a hybe grp and being paid a lot. u can say a lot of things against hybe for being a capitalist etc but they really pay their artists well better than big 3 even their employees are well paid .including more women getting high pay compared to big 3. mhj is even a classic example of getting so much " creative freedom " but she backstabbed hybe😂