Posts by oldschool29

Quote from nevermindmejin

I don’t think so. If you look at Red Velvet, a lot of people love them and they are from SM. SNSD also are/were well loved

SNSD were very, VERY hated when they debuted. Look up the "black ocean" incident. RV was not as hated as they were, but f(x) fans were very upset at RV's debut because they felt that SM debuted them to take f(x)'s place, they were definitely scrutinized a bit. Aespa will likely follow this trend and the ratio of fans to haters will increase over time, must be hard on idols initially though.

I think she'll do moderately well no matter what given her popularity. Whether or not it's a massive hit depends on them giving her the right song and concept. I'm trying to think what style would work the best with her voice.

Gosh that's hard. If I could adopt the face and body of any of them I'd want to be Karina, but I think objectively Wonyoung and Sullyoon have the prettiest faces. All of these girls photograph incredibly well, but those two seem to look good from every angle when you watch their fancams.

Quote from dummi

I don't think so, that style isn't popular anymore. Cute groups like formis and weeekly arent getting the same attention as teen and girl crush

Agreed, I think teen crush has kind of replaced cute concepts as the go to for girl group debuts. It's still colorful and youthful. Companies seem to have their eye on western markets, and super cutesy old school kpop doesn't work well for that.

Re: YG, I doubt a YG group would ever do a super cute concept, no matter what the current trends are. The HYBE group I predict will be feminine, idk if that means "cute" or not.

It seems very low budget (both mv and song), but all things considered she did a good job. Good for her!

I strongly disagree. Being from a top company, especially the one that created the current ngg, they were going to get a ton of attention anyways. I only watched the mv twice. If I had liked the song I would have watched it many times and tried to learn the members names. I'm completely done with them until they have a comeback, then I'll give them another chance.

Edited to add: If I were Aespa, IVE, or a trainee at HYBE or YG I would breathe a giant sigh of relief listening to this mess. They could have been a force to be reckoned with with their visuals, company, and Lily's voice, instead it's like someone deliberately sabotaged them.

Like everyone said, SM does a surprisingly good job of promoting idols in a variety of solo careers. I think what some people forget, or maybe you're newer to the kpop scene, is that snsd wasn't just the nation's girl group because of their record sales, they were icons and each individual member was well known to the public. They went on variety shows non-stop so everyone got to see all of their individual personalities. A lot of other groups who put out hit songs may have one or two popular members, but it's rare to have a 9 member group where all 9 are memorable.

People are similarly well acquainted with all the members of Twice, but JYP has decided they can make more money keeping them as a group rather than letting them splinter off into other projects for now. Since pop groups never last forever, I hope by the time they're winding down their group activities it isn't too late to cash in on their individual name recognition.

Sorry, I just hate this song so much. Usually I can think of at least one nice thing to say, but I really can't. The girls look pretty and Lily sounds like she has a decent voice, I'm curious to hear her live.

The transitions were so weird and jarring, I had to check the title multiple times to make sure this was the actual title track and not some fan made medley/mash up. Never thought I'd say this, but maybe SM does know what they're doing when it comes to stitching random songs together, none of theirs have ever been as bad as this.

You mean they make her look too pale? I don't think she gets anything different than the other members. That bottom pic where she's sitting in the car it looks like stage makeup. Stage makeup always looks too intense away from the overwhelming stage lights. She doesn't look like that normally.

I feel like all idols have to cut it at least this short eventually to remove the damage from dying it, then they just wear extensions on stage. They should have left her hair alone, it was so silky.

I like Stayc and want them to be successful, but honestly, I think it's healthy for groups to only chart well on songs the public likes. People aren't obligated to buy or stream music they don't like. Kpop fans have this impression that if a group releases one hit song we owe it to be loyal to them and buy three albums a year for the next seven years whether we like that music or not.

Wannabe, mainly because the choreo is so good. I love when they do the "super hero" pose with their fists up in the last chorus.

Such a pretty voice, why doesn't he do more OST's or SM Station songs?

Quote from PinKookiE

I had no idea there was such thing but now knowing this, "catfish" doesn't make sense for me.. where is the cat coming from? help

"Catfishing" means pretending you're someone you're not online. Like have you seen that MTV show where people make online profiles using the photos of some supermodel, then they have online relationships with people where they pretend they're that model? The term originates apparently from fishers selling cod, but there were actually catfish mixed in, these are two different species of fish.

"Blackfishing" is a trend online where non-black women, typically caucasian, use makeup and hairstyles to pass as black or mixed race people. For example:

It's not really clear why they do this since they could also get attention as an attractive member of their own race, but that's what it is, and people who *are* actually black understandably get upset by it. No one in kpop blackfishes, there is some cultural appropriation with style choices like dreads though.

Ummm, this is incredibly premature, at least let the group debut before deciding you hate them. If you don't want them to have a Twice-esque or Aespa-esque concept, what kind of concept were you hoping for? Hate to break it to you, but most pop concepts have already been done in one way or another, nothing is truly new anymore, the question should be does the current group do it well.

I think she's the type who looks bigger than they are because she's busty and has a round face shape. I have busty friends who are the same pant size as me, but people have the impression that they weigh 20 pounds more because they're curvy and I'm flat chested. It's easier to hide lower body weight with wide leg jeans, full skirts, etc, but if you're top heavy it gives a different impression.

In any case, I'm just relieved that she didn't seem to yo-yo diet too much, so many idols who are criticized end up fluctuating between their normal size and being extremely underweight (think Yuri, Wendy).

I mean, this is how it always works with kpop companies. No group got where they are on their own, they're always "standing on the shoulders of giants", aka their successful senior label mates. Blackpink got the money for their incredible mv's and producers and stylists and training coaches from Big Bang, 2NE1, and every other YG group that proceeded them. Of course the company isn't just going to recycle 100% of their cut of Blackpink's profits back into Blackpink, unless they're planning to stop being a music company. If they want to keep going into the future long after Blackpink has disbanded, they need to invest in the next generation.

Also, as much as I'm an SM stan, all companies go through highs and lows over the years and a lot of it is just due to luck. New groups and concepts are always a gamble, even the smartest creative directors can't predict exactly what the public will like, so none of these companies can be blamed completely for their current standing compared to the other companies. Of course hard work and smart decisions make success more likely, but never guaranteed.

Why not both?

I mean, she's a solid all rounder and a very good center, but I disagree that she's the most talented idol overall. There are other idols who are both more talented singers and dancers than her, and lots of great centers. You probably weren't looking for honest answers to this question though, haha.

I mean, it seems like the girls themselves probably have different priorities. Jisoo is probably going to do more acting in her future career, maybe she's prefer another drama over a solo anyways. But if she doesn't do it, Jennie will get a lot of hate during her next solo comeback, so better that Jisoo gets something first.

I don't see what's so wrong about what the fan asked though, what's wrong with them enjoying Jennie's music and wanting more of it? It doesn't have to be at the expense of other music necessarily. I guess YG has been releasing so little, fans have a scarcity mindset.