Posts by L0ok
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Yep there's precedent. With SM last year as well, everyone thought HYBE was the evil corp trying to steal SM away from Lee Sung-soo family. Turns out HYBE is the victim and SM were all crooks and conducted stock manipulation with Kakao.
HYBE is just bad at PR.
They should have just gave MHJ 2 options internally to either find investors to buy the remaining shares of the company at a price way above the market value or leave if she can't find the investors/gather the funds resign from the company.
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I agree, it'll just be a poison chalice if hybe keeps it without MHJ.
HYBE doesn't have any emotional attachment to NWJNS except potentially making them a shitload of $$$.
I think they should offer it up in the market/ give time for MHJ to get enough investors to buy it at a premium for 30% above market value or something. If she is unable to get the funds then tough luck, kick her out.
That should have been the solution from the beginning.
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Source timeline from reddit:
Timeline of MHJxHYBE until now, feel free to add or correct info
2017: Minji is already a Source Music trainee
July, 2019: Source Music is acquired by HYBE
2019: MHJ is hired by Source Music/HYBE
2019-2020: Trainees selected through the Hybe×Source Music joint audition (Hanni, Danielle, Haerin, Garam). Yunah & Youngseo are also said to be Source Music trainees from this era.
2020: Source Music x MHJ were preparing to debut a new girl group. During this process, all audition, trainee and initial expenses were billed to Source Music.
Mid 2020: New Jeans lineup is decided (including actress Ryu Han Bin). Girls start practicing their debut song "Attention", while still being part of Source Music. Yunjin is not selected and travels to the US.
November 2020: Gfriend releases Walpurgis Night, with Mago as their title track
2020-2021: Ongoing internal circumstances (a.k.a fights) between MHJ and Source Music executives. Bang PD takes the side of his long time friend, So Sungjin, Source Music CEO (https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=wjrIXNbkwd0)
January 2021: Eunchae becomes a Source Music trainee (https://twitter.com/pastelpick/status/1591371197748776962)
April, 2021: HYBE registers ADOR trademark on KIPRIS
May, 2021: Gfriend disbands. ADOR starts taking form
June-september 2021: MHJ and Source Music relationship ends. Rumours of Chaewon and Sakura joining HYBE. Yunjin is called back from the US. Yunah is transfered to Belift.
November 2021: ADOR was formally established, as a source music split and Minji, Danielle, Haerin and Hanni were transferred to ADOR from Source Music, along with some executives and staff. Ryu Han Bin is not selected.
The establishment costs (operating funds) of ADOR were also split from Source Music.
(https://twitter.com/adoriesroom/status/1459393719933808644)
December 2021: Source Music faced deficits as the planned debut group fell through, accumulating deficits accordingly.
With the contracts of GFriend ending and the planned debut group disappearing, the project was restarted as Le Sserafim (the concept and branding were based on what Bang Si-hyuk had envisioned from the beginning). Some of Big Hit's staff/employees were transferred to Source Music due to the lack of existing employees.
December, 2021: Kazuha becames a trainee.
December, 2021 - February, 2022: ADOR looks for a replacement for Ryu Han Bin. Youngseo is transfered from Source to ADOR, things dont work out and she goes to Belift. Finally, Hyein is picked as NJs final member.
March, 2022: HYBE announces Sakura and Chaewon have officially signed a contract with them
May 2, 2022: Le Sserafim debut
July 20, 2022: Garam is kicked out of Le sserafim
July 22, 2022: New Jeans debut
June, 2023: R U Next airs.
September, 2023: ILLITs name & lineup is decided
January 5, 2024: Youngseo is kicked out of ILLIT, after several threats about leaking pics and personal info.
March 25, 2024: ILLIT debuts
April, 2024: MHJ is accused of leaking trainees personal info, starting hate campaigns to HYBE idols and trying to takeover ADOR.
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What's done is done, impossible to change people's opinion now after they have made up their mind.
I think technical issues/mics not working properly kinda forced them to shout/scream. Nerves plus not being vocally talented enough just made everything worse.
They probably practiced in a controlled environment like a studio and sounded fine (acceptable) and thought it'll be the same during the actual show. Rookie mistake.
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I don't know. Titles like nation's embarrassment and being known as dogshit singers by basically the entire nation is kinda hard to shake off.
They are only a 2 yo group, not sure they have built a big enough fandom to endure all the bad publicity yet. I also don't trust hybe/source music to keep supporting them. They dropped Gfriend real quick, can do the same to LSFM.
But it will be interesting to see if they can overcome this and be stronger/get more popular. Hoping they can surprise me.
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There was no shock with Illit. The promos already started way before debut which is the opposite of newjeans. Before their debut, there were already multiple posts about their music on here.
The focus is also not only on Spotify. They are charting well on Melon and everywhere else. Only the fans are focusing on spotify.
As for post debut schedule, other than attending music shows, what else is similar?
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I am not sure we have the same concept in mind. What's the concept you're describing?
"chill" vibe, girls dancing in their bedroom, dressroom with comfy clothes on, having fun and shit like that.
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even the marketing strategy
NJs released their MVs with no announcement, no teasers and it was not available for streaming until a month later. They are currently releasing some CF fusion Jap/korea/english song before including it in their next comeback next month.
Their MV's usually are also longer with some sort of overarching story.
Illit releases are more traditional, multiple teasers. 1 MV for the title song only. The promotional strategy is completely different.
The only similarities I see are that they are both 5 members, young girls, similar age. Music are more chill instead of hard hitting girl crush songs.
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twice success is mostly due their members charms and luck
Ok got it. JYP had shit promotions, gave twice shit songs and sabotage them every step of the way. The whole world was against them and they only somehow made it due to "charm" and "luck".
You are so dumb
When someone reverts to personal attacks. You know they lost already.
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Twice creative team is everything but creative and their management has always being lackluster, twice success is mostly due their members charms and luck, with a bit of jyp when they do things right.
Twice can only dream that JYP will actually write good songs and promote them. Most of their songs since 2020 are shit and doesn't chart well. Keep crying, they are no longer relevant.
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This isn't a fair comparison as kpop is much more popular globally these days. So globally its obvious newjeans will be more popular globally compared to SNSD ever was.
Looking at just South Korea, I think newjeans has the bigger peak compared to 2009/10 SNSD. Alot of people is comparing SNSD in hindsight after 7 years of growth and improvements against only the first year of NJS. But the question is 2009/10 SNSD when they were still noobies.
The thing about snsd's success is it's not just all about their group success but it translated also to the members. Yoona became IT girl, Sunny and sooyoung became variety queens, taeyeon became the ost queen.
I think GG opened more doors to fans being interested in KPOP music and with them being touted as "South Korea's / Nation's Girl Group" at one point in time, their popularity had sky-rocketed.
NJS is also starting to get alot of CFs/OSTs and there are lots of potential for the girls to grow and improve. They are brand ambassadors to luxury brands and selling out whatever they are advertising.
Everyone is dancing to Hype Boy similar to Gee back in the days.
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Wow, there are so many
Neverlandssuccess stans hereFixed
