Posts by L0ok

Quote from littlemissnoname

And where does Ador get the money for that?

From Nike, Apple, Gucci, LV etc?

MHJ already noted that those brands already came to her for deals before the group even debuted. They trusted her from her time in SM after debuting groups like SNSD, Shinee & F(x).

The songs were popular on debut, but there was a clear upward trajectory from debut onwards. Hype boy didn't actually blew up and become a meme until like 3 months afterwards.

All the idols inc Twice etc were memeing the songs and repping them on live increasing their popularity further. This was definitely organic.

If the songs were shit and the concept wasn't trendy, no amount of payola or viral marketing will have saved it, especially when hybe didn't give a shit about the group. They will have been relegated to fromis 9 status.

Quote from Yinye

I will await the court and more evidence but I do not believe MHj because of all her inconsistencies to-date.

I am also awaiting any new evidence in court.

I think that is where we differ in opinion. I don't see any inconsistencies with what she has said and done. In fact she has been honest with a lot of things that has negatively affected her where she could have outright denied or ignored.

Also even if it was proven that she leak sensitive company data to external investors. I will be disappointed and think its a shame that she has done that. But I wouldn't start hating or classify her as some outright evil person.

Quote from Yinye

successful CEOs were dismissed due to internal politics - the most recent one was Sam Altman the CEO of Open AI

Oh yeah I read about that one. I think there was a clause in the contract whereby if he was no longer doing good for humanity or something they can kick him out. I thought it was stupid when I read it as well. Eventually he was reinstated which shows how successful that was.

I also think they did it in a manner that was way better than HYBE, they kept it internal and resolved everything internally. Maybe HYBE can learn from this.

Quote from allfandomssuck

not if hybe proves they had credible information for them to be concerned with ador. no one wonders if the cukt allegations might've come from some brainstorming mhj did for the public opinion battle hybe said she was preparing?

The issue is HYBE haven't proven anything yet and alot of people are already judging MJH as guilty based on her personality.

The facts are MHJ can draw up whatever scenarios to take over ador she wants. There is already a lot of legal experts that said it was basically impossible and not feasible for her take over. Drawing up scenarios is not illegal.

It doesn't matter whether the cult leaks were from MJH or k-netz. Like so what, doesn't change anything, so what people have a bad public opinion on HYBE and they will now go. oh shit we'll sell the shares in ador now to get back the good publicity show how lols. It hasn't forced HYBE to do anything.

Quote from K-PL

What foreign company will want to partner with a Korean company, if a Korean company with a minority stake can usurp control of the company and eventually scam the foreign company out of majority ownership?

On the contrary, from another perspective. What foreign company will want to partner with a korean company if they can just dismiss a perfectly capable and successful CEO just out of jealousy from a shareholder. Any successful foreigner with a brain won't want to work in a korean company after this. Especially in HYBE.

It was already determined that its impossible with only 20% share to take control of the company. HYBE had complete rights and control of their shares. MHJ can't even sell her own shares without the authorisation from HYBE let alone somehow force HYBE to sell theirs lol.

I for the life of me cannot think of a company in the west where they kick out a successful CEO just based on personality/jealousy. They pay them millions or whatever they want to keep them.

If they are unsuccessful and losing sales then yes I'll understand.

BTS has been able to create HYBE from scratch, currently the biggest kpop company in Korea.

YG a established company had a run of Big Bang/2ne1 and then Blackpink. I'd say globally based on feelings pulled out of my arse, Blackpink were at least as popular as BTS matching/exceeding in endorsement income and several world tours. You'd think they will have similar amount of funds to HYBE or at worst slightly less.

But somehow YG is the smallest company out of the Big 4 and selling their drama production company, where did all the money go? Did YHS just pocket all the funds himself?

They need to release a comeback asap to take advantage of all the attention they are receiving. Everyone will be listening to their songs.

The minute they lay low and take a hiatus. The haters will have won and they will do the same to other groups they hate.

Unless you're a successful established artist with from a from a nugu company. Companies will already have a personality profile created for the idol. Including things like how they should act. What they can say/cannot say.

Quote from Panpriyah-lice

All that in one group

Yg is trying to re-create these personalities into babymonster at this very moment.

Quote from xx-jenn-xx

isn't zico's label under hybe as well or am i mistaken??

I think Zico's label koz is operated independently. Only Zico's label and Ador is operated independently. The rest are basically are run by Bsh or one of his underlings.

Quote from Ves

I really think the Hybe model was a bad one for her from the get go and BSH himself was very naive if he really thought this could work.

I think the Hybe model that was sold to MHJ (I think MHJ was part of the team that helped develop the model within HYBE) and what occured in reality is what caused most of the issues.

What MHJ thought it was is that they'll have multiple labels all working independently within HYBE with their own creative freedom doing whatever they want within the boundaries of the law.

What happened in reality is you have Ador working independently and then basically nearly all the other labels in HYBE all interconnected in some way and the founder/chairman debuting groups in each of these labels.

At this point in time, I don't see any differences in Source Music, Belift and Bighit. They may as well merge the 3 labels into one. Potentially Pledis as well.

If you include boy groups, BTS in a way is similar.

Before they got sabotaged by HYBE, Newjeans were also on a similar trajectory to rival Blackpink in korea and internationally (they just needed extra time to grow their individual fanbases).

Quote from Flowercrew

she should've waited a few more years. why be impatient? Stabilise her company by: ( Facts: 8% Ador sales vs 33% pledis)

1) Make NJs even more untouchable and more stable

My theory is that BSH wants to kick her out before NJs becomes untouchable.

She wasn't impatient and any plans she had to take over Ador haven't come into friction yet.

Quote from Flowercrew

Njs are an upcoming on trend gg with "potential" to hit it big with Hybe's support. I admit that. But within Hybe's group, their company contributed the least.

But the other companies have 2 or a few established groups, Ador only has 1 girl group.

Ador was 3rd most profitable with an 1 yr old girl group that haven't even released an album or started touring yet.

Let that kick in. 1 yrs old and 3rd most profitable within HYBE. Only behind 3rd gen BTS and Seventeen.

Quote from hieuken

I'm confused, so is it a criminal case because she wants to steal ADOR from HYBE, or is it a case related to a contract where both parties don't agree?

HYBE wants to kick her out, not pay her and ban her from the industry.

You can bet on my word, there will be no criminal case moving forward.

Quote from Jasmine_Waters

The crux of this entire situation is SHE SHOULD HAVE GONE INDEPENDENT FROM THE VERY BEGINNING.

Yes thats correct, she probably wishes she have gone independent from the beginning right now.

You can blame the slimy BSH for luring her into HYBE promising to offer her everything. An offer that was too good to refuse. Now it has comeback to bite her arse.

It is probably the worst decision of her life.

Quote from Flowercrew

Is Ador really bringing in that much income?

8% of HYBE is quite significant, considering HYBE is bigger than JYP/SM/YG combined.

Yes when BTS comes back they will tour and earnings will rise. But NJs also haven't toured yet and released any albums so their earnings will also rise.

Quote from selfmate

maybe some smaller to lower tier company with nothing to lose but big3? upper/mid-tier? doubt it

Quote from merribelle

If she is let go, will another company try to pick her up?

I don't know why anyone is even asking these questions. She can't sell the ador shares until 2029 and she cannot work in another company in the industry as long she holds those shares including 5 years after she sells.

So the earliest comeback will be 2034. You think hybe will be nice and let her work elsewhere?

Look what happened to LSM. Even after HYBE sold his shares, they didn't let him work.

By 2029 how much will the ador shares be worth? I'm guessing it'll be closer to 0 than whatever people is spouting on here.

Quote from Jasmine_Waters

Pledis here's your chance to start a coup too.

When BSH wants to kick Han seong su out, there will be rumours of a coup.

Quote from Flowercrew

BTS on hiatus is still a lot more profitable than NJs.

The best ever established group with 7 members vs 4 members group that is not even 2 years old. Not comparable.