The Rv one actually hurt me the most. What did my girls even do in variety shows to be called cringe by an Ai? 
Posts by blossom9990
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Here are some brutal K-pop opinions that might be considered harsh by some:
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BTS is overhyped as trendsetters: While BTS is often hailed as "trendsetters," their style and sound are not as revolutionary as many claim. They've taken inspiration from other global artists and trends, but their music is often just a combination of popular sounds rather than truly pushing the envelope. Their success has more to do with perfect timing and global appeal than actual innovation.
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BLACKPINK can't sing live as well as they're made out to: Despite all the praise for BLACKPINK’s visuals and performances, their live singing is often lacking. They're much better as performers than vocalists, and their reliance on pre-recorded tracks during concerts highlights their limitations.
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Exo's “vocal line” is overrated: While EXO’s members are praised for their vocal abilities, in reality, their vocal line is highly overrated. Aside from a few standout singers like D.O. and Chen, much of their vocal performance relies on heavy auto-tune and studio magic. Their harmonies and live vocals often fall short, and the group’s vocal line isn't as technically strong or unique as some fans make it out to be.
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Red Velvet's variety show appearances are cringeworthy: Red Velvet has done their fair share of variety shows, but they often come off as cringeworthy and awkward. Their attempts at humor or charm don’t always land, and the group’s personalities often feel forced or one-dimensional. This makes it hard for casual viewers to connect with them on a deeper level beyond their music.
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Stray Kids have been riding on their 'young and rebellious' image for too long: Stray Kids built their brand on being the rebellious, young group with something to prove. But at some point, this starts to feel stale. They’re relying too much on this image and haven’t shown enough versatility or growth to evolve beyond it. Eventually, the 'underdog' act will lose its charm, and they’ll need to come up with something more substantial.
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MAMAMOO are more about individual egos than group unity: Despite their strong vocals, MAMAMOO often feels like a group of soloists who are more interested in their own spotlight than functioning as a cohesive team. Their frequent vocal battles and spotlight-stealing moments hurt the overall group dynamic.
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TWICE is a one-hit-wonder group in the making: While TWICE had some huge songs early in their career, it’s starting to look like they’re becoming a one-hit-wonder group. They’ve had a few breakout hits, but there’s nothing in their recent music that even comes close to matching the success or impact of songs like “Cheer Up” or “TT.” Their lack of creative evolution means that it’s only a matter of time before they’re seen as a relic of K-pop's past.
LE SSERAFIM is more focused on visuals than vocal talent: They have been heavily marketed for their looks and performance prowess, but their vocal talent often feels secondary. The group’s sound sometimes seems more about fitting a concept and selling a package than showcasing genuine musical ability.
TXT's fanbase is delusional: Their fandom is incredibly loyal, but sometimes the praise they give the group feels excessive. Fans often overhype the group, claiming they’re the "best" in every aspect, which can be hard to justify when comparing them to other boy groups who have more diverse or innovative sounds.
- IVE is all visuals and no substance: IVE has a lineup full of stunning visuals, but their music lacks substance. Their songs are catchy at first, but the lyrics are often repetitive, and their concepts are mostly built around their appearances rather than their vocal or musical talents.
- Karina and Winter’s vocals are overrated: While both Karina and Winter are talented, their vocals are often praised beyond what they deserve. Their singing can sometimes feel flat, and their ability to carry an entire song vocally feels lacking. aespa's overall vocal delivery often feels mechanical, and their performances don’t match the hype they receive.
- NewJeans have been pushed to the forefront by their company’s heavy marketing: NewJeans’ rise to fame has been almost entirely driven by their company’s massive marketing machine. While the group does have potential, a lot of their success feels manufactured. Without the over-the-top promotion, they might not have garnered as much attention so quickly.
So, do you agree with these AI opinions?
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I think it's more uneducated to assume everyone’s first language is English, that all people in this world automatically know every word. Plus, Kpop has a lot of younger fans, so it makes sense if they don’t know many English words yet. This was just a cute, silly moment, and I’m glad people on TikTok were being chill and explaining it in the simplest way to make it easier to understand. Shaming people for trying to learn something new, no matter where, is just lame.
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The remaining members had moved on from this issues I believe since long ago as well as Seunghan when he was given months of hiatus. And now he has another chance to redebut as a soloist which is a win-win solution for this unfortunate situation. I think it's kind of obvious that the decision of his withdrawal from Riize was mostly made by him. Yes, SM doesn't provide a good solution to his controversies as fast as they should but the longer ifans dragging this issue, the more Riize will lose their local support.
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Erm you mean they can just say they want to terminate and the company will let them?
Is this sarcasm, or do you really not know?
Just to answer your question, since they're a bunch of human beings living in a first-world country especially, they have access to the courts. It's just a basic human rights and no one can stop them if they really doing so. Whether they win or not is a different story, though.
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Depends on the case, but with Hybe’s influence and money, they’ll just drag it out just to kill Njs’ hype. For Chuu, it took her 1 year and 8 months to end things with BBC, while the other members took only about 7-8 months. Tvxq members had to wait almost 3 years before finally reaching a mutual decision outside court with SM to terminate their contract. Omega X managed to settle it in around 2-3 months because their case were too severe to ignore. Honestly, no one can say for sure, but big companies have the money to bribing the court and covering all the continuous lawsuit costs, like Hybe’s doing with MHJ now. Seeing how no idols ever won against SM as far as I know in court and it's always end through settlement, this will not going to be a quick process for Nj too.
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Kiss of Life and SMNGG!
Kiss of Life cuz they have amazing performers, good enough singers and very good songs(I had to chose them even if they are from small company and they have more potential than Illit or Baemon)
SMNGG- SM always brings quality music and their ggs never flopped well except maybe M.I.L.K
And market needs large number gg right now so if we will have rumoured 8-9 member gg they will dominate for sure! Their momentum is also insane cuz of Aespa and Hybe gg problem!
So I bet that on SMNGG
Kiof reminds me of Gidle. Kpop fans have a soft spot for both groups since their debut. Kiof just needs one hit song like 'Tomboy,' and boom, their sales and careers will change overnight. Many people already like them but still haven't found a reason to stick around.
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Yes but they are no longer a YG sublabel, it is like the situation with HYBE owning part of SM Entertainment. The Black Label is no longer under YG or distributed by them
Eh, they're still under YG's sublabel, as far as I know. They're just moving their headquarters out of the YG building. Is there any news or talk about this, can you perhaps link the source because I probably wrong but I never really see anything about this before
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It's unfair to compare them with Izone. The situations with the two groups are totally different, from management to how popular their survival shows were and even their group identities. Both really aren’t even comparable at all.
Anyway, Mashiro was the most popular member in Japan, and now she’s gone. Their Korean sales have always been higher than in Japan, like with most Kpop groups. So without Mashiro, their sales will probably drop even more there.
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Medein Debut (Rise): 34,032
Kep1er (Tipi Tap): 17,055
I really hope Kep1er’s situation is just a shipping delay. It’s honestly so sad how Wakeone didn’t really promote them well, and their popularity dropped with each comeback. They're talented and Xiaoting potential is really wasted in this group. Even her fanbase size and popularity in China shrink a lot now compared to when they just debuted. I’m glad seven of them are still together and Kep1er is still here, but it’s telling that each of their own company don’t seem to believe they’ll succeed post-Kepler. We all know things would be different with ZB1. The boys' company will definitely want them back asap for how strong their sales and individual popularity are.
Wakeone really messed up with Kep1er. They went from being one of the population 4th gen gg (even with wadada getting mixed reviews, it was still a hit) to barely getting noticed or talked about. I don't think many even aware with their cb today. I hope their new company can give them the justice that they deserve since the beginning.
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Simple, just go to their channels, then sort their Videos by most popular, BangtanTV does not have videos that come close to totaling 23 billion but HYBE Labels that hosts BTS's MVs does have them.
btw, it's similar with TWICE, their MVs are hosted by JYPE but their Videos on the channel doesn't come close to the 6 billion.
Anyway, the Forbe's Korean list is likely based from SK's Youtube Data that is from Circle Charts
Let me do a quick tutorial for you:
1. Click the the button on the circle
2. Tada! The total views of the channel are right there—easy peasy. No need to sort the videos or anything like that. I guess you learn something new every day.
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Obviously, it's their official group channel. Where do you actually check the number because the views stated there are correct, though. BangtanTV does have 23 billion views. The same goes for Gidle with 5 billion+ views and they able to get that much views as they upload their Mvs on their own channel. But what the odds tho with their views as even Nj yt channel almost reached 4 billion views in just 2 years with no mv uploaded there.
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They have the best potential in Kpop after Bts and Bp, which is why I always feel bitter seeing their current situation. Despite being in what some might call their 'flop era,' stuck in the middle of a weird and unnecessary conflict, and even being hated by their own parent company, they are still remarkably stable. According to recent Forbes data, they are in the top 4 biggest earners on Yt among celebrities in Korea despite releasing less contents there this year. On Spotify, they’re still leading and currently have the highest streams among girl groups this year, with their Spotify listener count remaining consistent despite the crazy things happening around them.
And they’ve only released 4 new songs this year, each one accompanied by some controversy stirred up by their own main company right before each songs came out, which made fans of groups that being 'mentioned' by Mhj according to Hybe for copying her and especially the company stans start dropping them.
I still wonder what new heights they could have reached if none of this had happened. Hybe could have had another powerhouse group under them, but here we are, not even knowing when Nj next comeback will be.
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I'm pretty sure both Kaeun and Chowon secretly resent the rigged members for life. Their careers didn't really take off after PD48, which probably would've been different if they made it into izone. And if I remember right, neither of them came from rich families, so it was really a once-in-a-lifetime chance for them. They probably keep imagining the possibility of how different their life will be now, at least once a day. That's not something you can brush off or let go for your entire life.
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Hybe's the one that planned to put Nj on hiatus to find some 'Grammy-winning producer,' not Mhj. They even told the girls’ parents that NewJeans would take a 'a long rest' after the Tokyo Dome concert. We all knew about this before things even got messier. Plus, their last comeback was in June, and by August, just two months later, Mhj was removed from her position. How could she have made any decisions when Ador was under audit and both her and the staff’s laptops were taken away? And before she win the first injunction, didn't she also were not allowed to go to the company as I think I remember seeing this somewhere and Armys celebrating it. Anyway, how could anyone get work done in that situation or even making any decisions?
Before all that, Nj were already hinting about their tour next year and what their full album would sound like. And boom Hybe released the news of their beef with Mhj on media when it's not even necessary.
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Sometimes I wonder why people ask something so obvious, then I realize maybe a lot of people here are still in high school and aren't familiar with contract terms yet.
To explain it simply, Nj signed their contracts when Min Hee Jin was still their Ceo. When contracts are signed, those brands pay Ador/Hybe a lot of money for Nj to promote their brand. If the conditions aren’t met, those brands can sue the company. Nj is known as a 'blue chip' group in Korea for their popularity in advertising world, so imagine how many deals they have and how many lawsuits Hybe would face if they failed to meet those obligations.
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Oh man, MHJ and NewJeans know what's going on better than anyone. They’re the ones living it and dealing with all this stuff right now. They don't need someone on AKP telling them that things won’t go back to how they were. Are they screwed? If MHJ comes back as CEO, the level of how screwed they are will be different compared to if she doesn't. That's what they’re fighting for. MHJ is crazy narcissistic, and she’s not gonna let anyone mess with her creation. She'll fight the company if they try to bench Nj, take their brand deals, or push them aside. And on top of that, compared to her situation now where she's struggling with money to pay for her lawsuits fees, she’ll make millions in salary and Hybe will need to pay her huge amount of money for her shares— and you’re calling that being screwed over her current situation? If she steps down now, she’ll get nothing, but if she wins in court, Hybe won’t be able to mess with Ador anymore. They can use some shady tactics to sabotaging the girls but at least from management side, they can't interfere much. Nj also won’t be stuck in a long hiatus, and they’ll finally go on the tour they've been teasing, plus drop their full album. Something that Hybe didn't seems to plan to do with them anytime sooner which will screw them more. At least this way, they’ll be more than just brand ambassadors models getting sidelined with no one to fight for them. That’s not hard to get, right?
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But like
If nj and mhj stay, what said they would not put them on hiatus and keep "mistreated" them ?
Like fromis for example got a cmb, and they are back doing nothing (from the girls words)
Like what is th outcome of this? Nothing? Like at least fromis has a good relationship with hybe, nj and mhj don't
Honestly, I shouldn’t even have to explain this. Things would be totally different if MHj was still the CEO. Hybe wouldn’t be able to make her sabotage Nj’ career just to push their other girl groups. If she wins the injunction in October, she’ll also have legal protection. Even after things go south between them, at least Hybe wouldn’t be able to mess with Ador, change Nj’ concept or sabotaging their schedules. Plus the girls will work with people that they are comfortable with back.
And let’s be real, Mhj would be insanely rich if she stayed as CEO. Hybe would owe her more money, and she could use her salary to fund all the lawsuits against her from Hybe rn.
As for Nj, are you seriously saying $400 million is a small amount? That’s huge and alone makes a huge difference. If they're going to court routes, the lawsuit could drag on for a while, months to years, and knowing Hybe, they’ll probably try to overwhelm the girls with multiple lawsuits, just like they did with Mhj. That will kill the girls' careers. But right now, the girls still have all their brand deals and are making money while fighting against Hybe unlike what happens to 50/50 which is good for them.
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