Posts by blossom9990

    Oddly enough MHJ and NJ don't want to leave HYBE???!!!

    They’d lose everything—from their name to their entire discography. It’s not surprising, honestly, a lot of idols in this industry are mistreated, and the only reason they don’t speak up because of that fear of losing everything they currently have. MHJ could probably find new investors, but starting a new company would take a while to fully get off the ground. Plus, she’s already dealing with a bunch of lawsuits because Hybe is trying to drain her financially and mentally, so she won’t have the time or money to do it. Not to mention, we still don’t know if her contract that bans her from working in the same industry for 5 years is still in place. If it is, that’s probably another reason why MHJ and Nj are sticking with Hybe. They can’t afford to wait five years.


    Also, Nj can’t just walk away from HYBE. People keep saying, “Why don’t they just pay the $400 million?” but realistically, who has that kind of money lying around? Even HYBE doesn’t. So, fighting to keep MHJ through the courts is easier and doesn’t risk putting them in massive debt. And poaching artists from another company is illegal, as we’ve seen with a few cases before. Hybe would definitely use that against Mhj and Nj to make the girls stay.

    The cases with AOA and T-ara are pretty clear now where people opinions is quite united about their case, but I’m still confused about what went down with April even after years it happened. I didn’t follow it closely anymore so probably that's why too. Obviously now Naeun trying to get public on her side again. Suddenly after years, people close to her keep bringing the issue back up, and honestly, some of these “confessions” seem paid for. But anyway, I still don’t know if the bullying was actually real or not.


    Some say Hyunjoo was definitely bullied because all seven lawsuits filed by DSP and the April members against her brother were rejected by the court. And we know how easy it is to win defamation cases in Korea.


    But others argue that Chaewon’s case was actually accepted by the court, and it only got dropped because Hyunjoo didn’t want to go through with the investigation. So, they claim the court ruled it as the bullying is not true (as what the Kwaktube guy believe too, I guess). There’s also the claim that Hyunjoo lied about one of the members dating someone (I can’t remember who).


    So, what’s the truth? Naeun still gets a lot of hate from Knetz, probably because she’s the most popular and she's still fighting to clear her name, but at the same time, Hyunjoo is getting harassed in the comments on her IG while being m.i.a since forever.

    That company manage to make BTS renew their contract early for the 2nd time around so they ain't leaving BH anytime soon. I just know that HYBE is itching for 8 months to passed by since they love and need that money. :pepe-life-support:

    Their debt is spiraling, and with Bang's luxury house in the mix plus tons of their investment seeing red, you can tell they're desperate for that world tour to happen.

    Honestly, I’m starting to wonder if they were also behind all those leaked Tae and Jennie dating pics and videos from 2022-2023 after seeing the way they’re handling Nj. It feels like too much of a coincidence that Bts announced their contract renewal around the same time frame. And let’s be real, they’re still acting weird towards him until today.


    Like damn, no one ever thought Hybe/Bh, once praised as the most humane Kpop company, would slowly reach SM's level, but with even more cruel media play tactics.

    I smell hostile take over, and it's not from MHj. Buying more when everyone else is running out is not a smart move, and they probably know it. Except they have other plans. People might say the are banking on BTS' comeback, but we literally have 2 yrs and a few months before their contract with HYBE expires, and no one knows how the renewal talk would go, except HYBE is going to bribe them with more shares or use the one they gave them already as leverage to get them to resign for another 7 years even before this contract expires.



    People who thought BTS would leave Hybe are delusional. If Hybe is being this hostile towards Nj—releasing their private videos, publishing negative and fake articles to pressure them, paying journalists to badmouth them, and shamelessly using the media to make their company stans attacking the girls and their families even before they publicly supported Mhj—did anyone really think BTS wouldn't renew their contracts? Hybe is still too dependent on BTS; they will do everything to make them stay if bribery doesn't work anymore. Because whatever secrets Hybe is covering for them will come to light, and pair that will tons of fake controversies the company will make against them just to pressure the members. Judging tons of Armys reaction towards Jk supporting Nj, it's also easy to see how a lot of people in that fandom really worshiping the company, so it will works for them in some way. By now, people should realize that no artist has the upper hand at Hybe, not even BTS. They just get better deals but their voice is not even important for Hybe anymore. Whatever principles that people thought BSH have before has long gone.

    This is good news. It will greatly help them in their legal case.


    Okay Tatiana, please bless us with your shaman powers to predict what will happen next… You’ve been on point with a lot of things since the beginning anyway. I’m silently nervous about NewJeans’ future and what they’ll do next after HYBE refused their request.


    It seems like they’ll just continue as if nothing happened, since Min Hee-jin doesn’t appear to have any plans to start her own company or anything like that. She’s still pleading to return as CEO, and NewJeans doesn’t seem to want to leave HYBE either. With no clear plans or preparations to fully challenge HYBE or leave the company, I’m confused about why they came forward in the first place. It seems like this will only make HYBE more frustrated with them, without changing their situation. How it any better and the girls will just going to the company full of people that hating them even further after they released the vid just like that after the dateline they given expired?


    The pressure they put on Hybe doesn’t seem to be significant too. So, I’m wondering what you think about this. I still fail to see the rationale behind them publicly supporting Mhj, making the situation more explosive when it doesn’t seem to change anything. Since I know well if they think throughly about this, they will know Hybe wouldn’t take her back, won’t this just make HYBE treat them worse? They might even put the group on hiatus. It start to feel that the girls just venting to public using their emotions which is not wrong but the bad part is they didn't seems like they have any plans if Hybe rejecting their request which I guess they didn't predict the outcome when all of us seeing it coming. It's sadly clear that they're really still a bunch of kids and didn't really thought Hybe will refuse them even after they're announcing their support to Mhj publicly.


    Still I hoping I'm wrong and the girls with their parents really planning something bts. Still I’m unsure of their tactics in fighting Hybe like this because acting emotionally instead of planning strategically won’t help them win this battle and just complicated things. I’m more worried about their careers now than before.

    Hybe isn't wrong about the numbers, but it's how they’re trying to use reporters to subtly attack NewJeans. Let's not pretend it's not their intention with how they trying to 'win' the reporter heart.


    MHJ isn't entirely wrong with her claims either, but she seems oblivious about the difference between RIAJ and Oricon or simply trying to manipulate the truths.


    Anyway, RIAJ certifies shipments, while Oricon tracks real sales or retail numbers.


    For example, BTS's Map of the Soul 7: The Journey was certified as a million by RIAJ (for over 1 million shipments), but its real sales through Oricon (retail sales) were around 700k+. Similarly, Lsfm's Fearless was certified as 2x platinum by RIAJ (500k shipments), but their real sales were 277k.


    The same applies to NewJeans. The 100k refers to shipments, not actual sales.

    Only plotting is still pretty bad imo. It's just hard to imagine the relationship continuing smoothly at all, a lot has happened. Just seems like there'd always be some tension even if MHJ managed to win the injunction and be re-instated. But I agree with everything you've said, and nothing that happened today really changed anything so we just gotta wait....

    TLDR, I just typing a lot nonsense because I'm bored:


    I say "plotting" because, honestly, even Hybe seemed more focused on her shaman in court that even the judges shame them for that than on that issue, and the court didn’t take it seriously either. It probably wasn’t even a huge matter, just MHJ being like any other employee saying she wanted out of the company, but in a vague way, like we all do sometimes. Let’s be real—with the contract she signed with Hybe, none of that would even be possible. Even she knows that.


    But then, Hybe did try to set her up by told her to meet some investors, then using that to say she was plotting against the company. But when she exposed them by revealing that they were the ones who introduced her to those investors, Hybe being radio silenced and trying hard to kill her reputation through media manipulation and dragging tons of groups especially Bts to make their fans fight her. And also dragging Nj parents into this and releasing articles after articles attacking their own artists for their own gain.


    The relationship is definitely ruined, but from my point of view, it’s not MHJ who made things go bad. Again, I’m not defending her and I don't want anyone take this as that, but it's hard not to see it that way. Her biggest mistake in this whole controversy was using NewJeans to get sympathy and dragging Illit and LSFM into it. Other than that, Hybe just acting so shady not only towards her but with how they treating Nj as well when it's time for the company to gain the girls trust and embrace them. I'm even supporting them to get rid Mhj at first but after seeing how they behave, it feel distasteful.


    Honestly, I’m starting to believe in the speculation of Hybe's trying to turn Ador into a guarantor, just like they did with Soumu, Pledis, and KOZ after getting rid of the original CEOs and replacing them with their own people. It’s no coincidence that it happens to all of their sublabels except BigHit that protected by Bsh and Ador who completely independent, right? And now Ador and Mhj in this whole situation. Well, hard not to say that they're just doing the same thing again, but this time the CEO is fighting back, and they don’t like it.

    And do you really think after all this women has done they would ever give her to CEO position back? I mean this literally started because she was plotting to split off from HYBE. Honestly I don't even know what tf she's fighting for at this point. Herself? NewJeans? I have no dam clue because she has soured the relationship between her/NJs and HYBE so much that it's hard to imagine her continuing in any position within ADOR without constant drama.


    I won't comment on the "protecting NJs" because I genuinely don't know the extent of that.


    She's only plotting but didn't make any moves, so even the court didn’t take it seriously either, which is why she won the injunction. It didn’t even start from there; anyone following the case knows that. I don’t want her to come back either, and I’ve been vocal about it, especially when Nj publicly supported her. But she has every right to fight for her position. She could actually continue if Hybe gave her the CEO role back and stopped interfering in Ador's business like before. If only Hybe were smart enough and less greedy to follow their sublabels system seriously instead of just as a formality, everything will be fine. That’s the only way to fix this. Or they could just pay her off and she’d stay quiet. But well even Hybe doesn’t even have the guts to do that, and they’re supposed to be billionaires.


    She’s obviously fighting for herself; she’s not a saint doing this just for the girls. But the girls are also fighting for themselves too. They and their family wouldn’t have gone this far for her if Hybe had treated them right and didn't make them afraid. Their whole lives and careers are on the line. Everyone is fighting for themselves following their own narratives— including Hybe. And honestly, they all have the right to do so. Let’s just see who the court sides with.

    She wants the $$$$$ and power of CEO


    I do agree with you that it’s ironic of her to want back so bad as CEO after all her complaints about HYBE and so on etc.


    There’s no trust left so basically - this is going to the courts for the long legal battle.

    Agree, and honestly with how successful Nj are, only stupid businessman/woman will let them go.


    Yet, why is it ironic that she wants to come back so badly as CEO when her complaints about the main company make sense and Nj is her creation? We all complain about work, and she was using the proper channels before everything spilled out into the media. I don’t like her either, but why do people think it’s easy to just throw away something you built and create with your own hard work, especially with it turn out to be a huge success? She already grieved over f(x) when she wasn’t even the CEO, and people think she’s going to let Nj go when she literally proving how competent she is in her work and how she able to done a better job than anyone at Hybe in creating a girl group? Obviously no.

    Im not really sure what that means. Mhj was hired by HYBE so technically she was a "hybe-installed" CEO no?


    I dont know what is driving MHJ to be so keen on getting her CEO position back, and I could be wrong, but superficially it has always looked like MHJ being driven by ego and greed. And it continues to look that way.

    Since she doesn’t have power anymore and the new CEO and the Belift CEO are in charge now — and we all know they can’t stand each other — do you really think everything will just go smoothly? She’d have to sign a new contract, and honestly, it’s not worth it if she’s just going to be a background player with no real say.Even if she goes along with it, HYBE could turn her role for formality sake only with no real impact on the group. They have the upper hand, they could easily reject her ideas, and her authority isn’t absolute anymore. Hybe could just drag her along and use her name for whatever they want to do with Nj. And Belift ceo obviously will put Illit above Nj which something Mhj will never accept.


    It’s pretty clear that the negatives outweigh the positives here.


    And on top of all that, NewJeans wouldn’t really benefit either, aside from watching her stuck with them but unable to protect them anymore.

    turns out hybe's logo was also created by mhj


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    It's not a new info, she was literally behind the whole Hybe new branding.

    Wait so the new info today is that HYBE tried to correct misinformation about NJ sales being reported to the public?!?? That’s it?!


    At least there are very good posts today to remind everyone about legit feminism being about women just wanting to be treated equally with equal rights.


    Hmm day isn’t over yet so back to work and will check later tonight

    Hybe is currently talking to each of the girls one by one, obviously trying to break their unity and find their own Keena from NewJeans, someone that they can convince to break whatever promises the group has made to each other. Hybe already said that today’s discussions will be kept private, and we’ll likely only see the outcome in a few days, weeks or honestly probably never. Unless Nj members themselves take things to their own matter and suprised us with another sudden live.