Posts by troye22

Quote from cherie88

At this point I wonder what BH promised the members that they resigned again. Are they satisfied with this lack of effort?

tbh it probably was a mix of many factors we won't ever really know,

although bh is lacking lately, they have done good things too, the members grew with them, they might have been promised things we won't ever know, they might have been pressured,..

but most importantly, if the members wanted to continue being bts, their only option was with bh imo

never in a million years is bh going to let the members leave with anything related to bts (trademark, song masters, stage names,..). still to this day, that's their main cash flow (with or without the members).

wow im kinda surprised the conversation is still so civil? im happy akp is a place where things like this can get discussed. i know im not very positive about bh if i post about them, but i really don't mean to villainize them.

maybe i just expected too much of them (they are still just a profit focused company) but they were very different from the rest & that's also the way they presented themselves. so to see them focus less and less on the musical aspect & the managment of their artists is just dissapointing ig

Quote from jangmi08

Not really unpopular. It's not just a feeling but it's quite obvious.

Quote from doja-mousee

they do. in a financial report it was stated that they only used like 3k dollars for bts marketing the whole year. armys are doing the promotion for bts eversince, creating strategies on how to get the songs viral and how to promote to the gp. basically doing their job for them. that's why bighit should do the bare minimum and buy these rights and certifications

i was being carefull tbh, i like to make it clear that these are (just) my thoughts

i read that number somewhere too (3k-4k), but i didn't/couldn't really believe it,

it's just frustrating to see tbh

it feels like any other company would trip over themself to be able to promote bts (even if it's just a collaboration),

yet bh is taking them for granted (to some extend)?

Quote from RunOutOfIdeas

I am not surprised.

I mean even after some Western Shows we got fancams, fans uploading the performance or a Bangtan bomb than the official performance video like all the other artists.

Some of the official performances of other artists were trending and we had to wonder when we would get one for BTS.

BH wants to be a content powerhouse but the way they are doing it won't help with exposure.

I am glad the boys have Armys to promote them as the company should.

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this might be an unpopular opinion; but i get this feeling sometimes that bh knows how dedicated army is & that they will do everything they can to promote bts, so they aren't rushing to open their purse and buy these certifications/performances, or they aren't really prepared to maybe lose a bit of income & negotiated a netflix/yt deal (while other companies do)? dunno, that's just what it feels like

Quote from NaomiBlue

So you're absolutely certain this is gatekeeping (specifically limiting access to something, throttling BTS's exposure purposefully) as opposed to simply "the fees to buy these performances is too high"? Words matter, and what you're suggesting is that BH is purposefully hamstringing BTS by taking down perfs.

This makes utterly no sense, since BTS is still 85% of their total business. Whatever reason would they have to gatekeep them?

"BangtanTV needs BTS MVs not BH labels MVs" what does that mean? All I see is BTS content. How are you defining MVs? Don't understand.

BTS is what's taken them this far. BH has supported them, formed them, and helped them grow. The anti-BH talking point of "How dare you give any credit of BTS's success to BH!" is supremely immature.

I give credit to BH for helping BTS's success because BTS Give Credit to BigHit for Assisting in their Success. Again and Again. No more, no less. I listen to Bangtan, not some anti-BH obsessed accounts on Twitter who ignore the boys themselves because they're too into the hate boner against the company.

I trust in BTS, pure and simple. I wish more ARMY would do the same.

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while i agree we should wait & see before blaming anyone, i don't really understand why you are so defensive about this?

i don't want to put words in sameera's mouth, but i don't think she meant that bh is gatekeeping them with evil intentions.

the gatekeeping is just an expected consequence of some of their actions;

for example: them creating weverse & putting pretty much everything on it (online concerts, documentaries, run! bts, bon voyage,..) instead on some more accesible platform (youtube, netflix) like other acts do, is actually gatekeeping them from potential new fans. while this method is probably more profitable for them, a lot of gp & newer fans don't know about weverse/how it works. im not saying they are monsters for doing this or anything, but it does limit the potential reach bts could have had.

also, putting bts' mv on their own channel seems just logical?

edit: on bts' channel i meant

edit 2; bh has more than enough money to buy these rights (and the certifications), there might be another reason why they wont, but it's not the lack of money (some of these certifications are from way before the pandemic)

well, i guess we can't do anything but just wait & see what's gonna happen.

maybe they will be back before we know it?

i really hope it bc those weren't just very precious to army, they were genuinely important to attract new fans.

yes, army is big, but attracting gp is only positive.

for example; we will have more support next time we want to give the boys a #1 on the hot100 with a korean song

Quote from NaomiBlue

These performances are taken down (not deleted) per contract if the agency doesn't buy the rights to them. This is true for every artist.

The Original Fallon performances were down for a bit but are now back up.

BH is a business - this is not a defense, it is a fact; if the cost to keep these perfs on Youtube is much more than what they can make from them there's no point even though they're popular among GP. BTS has MANY points of entry for new fans.

This is another BIGHIT IS THE DEEEVILLLL movement - but it's misinformed, BigHit now clearly tries to negotiate the right to post the videos themselves directly as much as possible. Dynamite era perfs are on BangtanTV.

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I think the freakout is ridiculous, it's always the same accounts stirring this up, and the increased Enraged Sheep characteristic of ARMy is concerning. We're becoming extremely easily manipulated lately.

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that's why i said that i want to give them the benefit of the doubt, maybe they will still buy it (but im slightly on the fence about it, this happened with black swan before & while i don't really know why it went back up, i don't think it was bc of bh buying the rights)

also, although some people are going straight to attacking bh, there's nothing wrong in questioning what's happening. these were important & precious performances

so, i checked & its true.. i want to give bh the benefit of the doubt and wait (maybe they will still buy the rights),

but i don't understand what they are doing? these performances were gp magnets?

im sure they got some sort of offer to buy them before they were removed/privated

what are you guys' thoughts?

damn..

Tbh i know nothing about investing & both companies probably know what they are doing, but damn, bh is really throwing with money lately

I am curious how this concert hall Will look like tho

Quote from worldlove27

The 4 over 500M that aren't BTS are:

Big Bang - MADE

BLACKPINK - Square UP

BLACKPINK - Kill This Love

BLACKPINK - The Album

well, this thread is getting heated

I can only say that bts are far far ahead of any group (no matter your reasoning),

but i do think it's noteworthy that the only 4 album statistics "coming closer" to them are 3/4 from the same group...

This shows kpop really isn't as global/western as many believe & social media is really skewing peoples view of what groups are globally popular.

Quote from MIRACOLE

Clearly it's because they've never dated anyone...ever...

exactly!

bts don't date!! they are really busy & also they are in a relationship with army

Quote from iu-shi

I like 연이용이 패밀리, Yeon and Yong Family. Cute little Korean family who react to BTS. I also enjoy FreeAction.

these are the korean reactors i watch too & also 리브 'Livv_Reaction w/Mom

Quote from okayno

I agree with this. You should just enjoy watching whatever content you want, but always feel free to ask around. Just dont let others shape your fandom experience for you, and your happiness comes first so just enjoy 😊🤗

seeing the list of most mentioned reactors here, there are enough (pretty) genuine ones.

you just have to watch & you'll soon find the ones who you think are the most genuine/fun.

Quote from Afriyieau1

Form of therapy( I like his reactions)

Reacttothek (for the music aspects)

Dj Jino( kinda brutal with his honesty)

Nate and Ella( they are just random non kpop fans who react to BTS. I like the way they themselves bother to research more on behind the scenes for their BTS reactions to get more information about the music)

similar to these last two (who i also like to watch)

-REEDS REACT. they are both very invested in getting to know bts' history more (besides the music ofc) & you can see that the man is honestly very captivated by bts' humbleness, message & story

- STUFR Reacts, they are also very honest if they don't really like a song

- Lenny len (he and his friends are just fun to see, nothing to deep & they all voice their love for jin a lot, so thats cute to see)

- Waleska Herrera; i have never seen them overreact (only watched their bts reactions) & they discuss a lot, since it seems they both have experience in performing

these are pretty much the only reactors i watch (except for a few korean ones & the ones in the comment from afriyieau1)

im just hoping no one of them turn into fake overreactors :)

well..

i made the thread to talk about how realistic these edits are getting,

but can't fault people for their thristing, tae is something else

https://mobile.twitter.com/JOONTHESTALLlON/status/1354529609384140802

sorry for the dramatic title, but do y'all see the smooth transition??? No green screen?

okay gotta be honest, i did watch it a few times ,

But how far is this gonna go ? these people have insane skills..

Quote from myaza

She posted that thing that made armys attack Time, I think?

I think cancelling is not even whats happened at any time. Its just been a few people telling her to delete it or calling her out and then she sends her minions to attack them and closes.

Someone on my tl called her out last time and she got like thousands of horrible death threats from her fans. I dont like her or her minions after that. This cult she has is weird. They stan her more than BTS.

tbh the minions problem is something every big account has and it's so f ridiculous? how are you gonna threaten someone for someone you know nothing about (isn't even a known person)?? stupid

as long as qdeoks is here, everything will be fine

so my exams are finally over, so i decided to participate a bit more here!

ps my brain is still fried, so maybe i will come back to correct/add if it's back to normal & i can think better lol

What does your AKP username mean?

it stands for troye (sivan) & my age, i like his name so i often use it as username

Why did you join AKP?

i love talking more in depth about bts & this wasn't really possible on twt

(felt like i was bothering people with my essays about bts)

Are you joining Bulletproof?

as a member?

The Basics:

What moment did you realize you were ARMY?

really army? 2019

it was a certain moment & i know it doesn't seem like it since i've forgotten it,

but it was an aaaaaah! moment

How long have you been ARMY?

about 1,5 year

Who is your bias?

it genuinely swcitches every time i see another member, so guess im really just ot7?

What was the first BTS song you heard?

save me

What was the first BTS MV you saw?

save me

What is your favorite BTS album?

anwser (is that cheating since it's a compilation?)

What is your favorite BTS song?

hmmm, too difficult, i have these moments i will get really obsessed with a certain bts song & just loop for a few days/weeks (save me, brand new day, coffee, boy in luv, i like it pt2, ddaeng, let go,..)

What is your favorite BTS performance?

hmmm so so many.. bts' performance skills are one of the biggest reasons im so in love with them

besides the obvious popular stages, i love LOVE idol & mic drop in concert

Getting More in Depth:

Do you call the members by their stage names or real names?

i use both

Do you have any ARMY friends in real life?

yes

Which member do you feel you are the most like?

hmmm i think maybe jin? a little bit of jimin maybe

What was the last piece of BTS merch you bought?

mots 7

How far would you travel to see BTS?

i think, everywhere in europe

Favorite BTS expression or saying?

"Whenever ARMYs miss us, you can come to us. If you have to go or if you want to go, it’s okay for you to leave us. But always remember this. I will always be here."

"hurry up & be me soon" - i don't think i will ever forget this one

and so so many more, i could write 154 pages with all my fav bts sayings (i'll come back if i remember another big one)

Name your most memorable BTS or ARMY moment.

super random, but i saw this video of arab armys at the riyadh concert (they were so happy & funny/chaotic lol)

and there was this one army & when jk was flying during euphoria, she kept screamed "god please protect him/may god be with you". im not even religious, but it gave me such a warm feeling, it was so genuine.

Link your favorite YouTube reaction to BTS related content!

i'll come back for this one!

Quote from myaza

She has spread toxic solo stuff several times. I think shes just very attention seeking and cares more about her ego than BTS

i think that this is a bit too much..

i agree she is too quick in posting stuff for the size of account she is,

but i've only heard 2 things she has done (the jin thing & now jimin? if there's more, please correct me)

& tbh the jimin thing seemed big, no?

she should think more before retweeting/posting such tweets & twt army should stop cancelling everyone for anything

anyway, the # is so embarrasing..

disney is a huge huge pain in the ass with copyright

so the fact that, not only were they allowed to use it, but that the discussions went smooth

...

i really don't know how many more ways bts can show us how much of a legendary anomaly they are

Quote from cries00

why now exactly? shouldn't they release it first before the deluxe version? or at least at the same time?

The only reason i could think of why bighit released the limited version first & the standard so much later is that they were counting on army panic buying the expensive one.

I know many armys who were waiting on a standard one (because the limited one was really pushing their budget), but they eventually bought the expensive one, because they thought a standard wasn't coming anymore & the other one might be limited.

I think this one might still sell 1m+ (the stickers are convincing a lot of people even if they bought the limited one lol)

you never know, anyone could suddenly release a viral hit

but tbh, it would be pretty unexpected imo