Posts by troye22

y'all are so lame with your "im secretly dating x" jokes

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Right? It's so annoying

very

each time i see the smiles they have for each other , i wanna cry

they are so precious together

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I'm pretty sure Idol's MV was ironic. I cringe anytime I watch it, but it was 100% intended

true, it was 100% intended & i think it's iconic in its own way,

but i also think the excellence of the song itself is often overlooked because of it.

i remember the first few times listening to it while watching the mv & although it was iconic,

the mv overshadowed the song a lot.

it wasn't until i saw it at a concert stage/performance that i realised how incredible good and powerful the song is on its own (it's one of my fav bts songs now)

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No one's actually specifically spoke to my arguments tho'; I keep waiting for ppl to get off my conduct in my first message and break it down, I'm okay being wrong, just trying to focus them. (sorry your mentions are a mess, seriously!)

no, no that's fine!

i don't mind it, i just said that bc it seemed like people weren't really talking about the same thing & it felt like the conversation wasn't going anywhere. just repeating the same arguments, but if keeping this thread going helps people make their arguments clear to others, just ignore the comment!

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well comparing it to other kpop group debuts, it was nothing! they might get a bit embarrassed bc they're grown ups now but acting tough as a teenager is pretty normal.

true & i don't blame them, it was their concept. in the end, they had an amazing debut!

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Look at our boys!!!

Look at our pretty boys with their pretty awards!

Pfff they probably have no clue anymore what/how many awards they have won, yet i want to give them so much more..

im not trying to stop people from expressing themselves (since i was the one to bring up the topic),

but i don't think the conversation in this thread is helping anyone anymore atp

I think all sides have said what they wanted & why (im happy it stayed pretty civil), so i would say to just agree to disagree (for now)?

Again, im not trying to stop the discussion about this topic, but i genuinely dont think this thread is doing much except for repeating arguments.

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Deserved

This year the SMA didnt have a SOTY? I was expecting them to win 2 daesangs ):

Them not having to please another company/probably not wanting to award bts 2 daesangs without them even attending, could be it?

either way, bts is again the unrivaled winner! Well done to our boys

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have you seen kpop mvs that were made before 2013? even mvs from the big 3 were equally try hard. the fact BTS had a really small budget during their debut compared to the big 3, just shows money /= quality.

no i haven't, but i just meant, looking back at it now (& only focusing on bts),

the only thing about their debut that could be considered try hard/cringe, for me,

weas their acting tough in their MV's since they had a badass/hip hop debut but they looked so cute (im not saying the mv's were poorly made)

also the members don't seem embarrased to still perform the songs, they are only cringing the moment you put those old MV's on lol

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Interesting, I wonder who they would give it to if they don't give it to Bts?

tbh, i haven't followed this show or their criteria this year, so i genuinely don't know besides bts

(i mean if part of the criteria is sales & a part is judges, i think the logical winner is bts)

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Meaningful and relatable lyrics, banger music, powerful choreo, fierce concept. BTS debut had everything to show the world their potential.

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(I know N.O is not a part of their debut album, but it released just 3 months later so it can be included as their debut music discography).

No other kpop group debut shows this much of potential during their first year, let alone debut. You could've just showed me this in 2013 and I've still stanned them. I still can't comprehend how people can call No More Dream or N.O "cringe" and "try hard".

I know sad songs like The Truth Untold can make fans cry, but for me N.O made my teenager self cry bc of how relatable it was. I love it when BTS performs their debut songs. I hope BTS knows their debut was anything but cringe and try hard. It was the best thing to ever happen in kpop.

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tbh, the only try hard thing about it were the MV's imo

the songs themselves were really good (in general, not just for a debut) & each time i hear their old/first songs im surprised how incredible their music was from the beginning. haven't seen a group with such a strong debut (song).

ps; i forgot to mention their performances, it was clear that they were made for the stage..

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who won the Daesang ?

i don't think it has been announced yet?

just noteworthy that it's suddenly one award again.

2 reasons i can come up with as to why; sma doesn't have to compromise (for the sake of another company) this year or they aren't gonna give it to bts?

making history, as usual.

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I kept liking and loving the comments. Don’t know what else to say. Just sad for some people who don’t appreciate them now. You guys are missing out a real life legendary group

give it time..

im positive there will come a time people will realize/accept how incredible bts and their story truly is.

no, but this is actually ridiculous??

HOW does one look so effortless badass & at the same time so soft??

i mean, he didn't even need the sword?? just the casual way he was walking,talking, standing, breathing was so damn hot

(sword was a very hot bonus)

excuse me while i watch this 45x again

i was checking to see if someone already posted it, should have known we could count on you to inform us :)

it's just so satisfying to see bts' place in the history books being confirmed so many times

& whatever happens, nobody is taking that away from them.

I dont know from which fandom you are, but this really wasn't necessary. i was actually positively surprised that the comparisons between concerts stayed away (from what i saw),but guess i spoke too soon.

for everyone already making up negative assumptions; just enjoy the concert/let people enjoy the concert

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the thing i didn't understand is why bh has to pay for their own performance? i think the show needs to pay the bh in order to keep the video on their channel

i saw a couple of tweets saying this too; that bh is the actual owner & that the show has to negotiated with bh to keep the performances on their channel? i don't really know what's true & i tried to look it up, but it's complicated tbh (i have no knowledge about these things), but i don't understand how they couldn't work something out to keep those performances online, one way or another.

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Y’all just talking now

genuinely asking, what's so wrong with talking?

nobody is calling bh a bad company & almost everyone here is acknowledging that they have done a lot of good things for bts,

but it's normal for people to notice if, in their opinion, things changed & if they are respectful about it (which practically everyone is in this thread), it's perfectly fine to discuss it.

it's not a coincidence that many people have similar feelings about this.