Posts by kingkook

Quote from Yama-Chan

I'm just anti-establishment. I don't like echochambers, which is essentially what AKP has always been like. Before ARMYs ruled this place, now it's tokkies.

Quote from Yama-Chan

SPILL.THE.TEA.

I'm not wasting any more words on this shallow anti

I'm not an anti, weirdo. I actually prefer NewJeans compared to the rest of HYBE girlgroups. If I'm considered a NewJeans anti, I might as well be considered an anti of every kpop idol minus Aespa, BTS & Blackpink.

Edit: I could also be considered a BTS anti, given that I also critic their work.

Quote from Chemotter

Being under the same parent company doesn't change the fact that these girl groups are each other's competition.

That's like amazon selling a certain popular product and after a year, they bring out an amazon brand. It isn't inherently illegal, but it is problematic.

No company CEO will consider such a thing a flattery.

That's literally what amazon and plenty of other companies do. It's literally what kpop is based on, with the amount of recycling that's done. It's lowkey shocking that Min Heejin sees this as something unacceptable when she must have been taking inspiration from plentybof other artists as well.

Quote from Chemotter

What do they say about these groups? Give us several examples of what you saw.

Literally eveything you can assume a troll would say about these groups. Plagiarism, berating on their skills and talent, accusing them of grabbing NewJean's opportunities. Plenty of examples to give.

Quote from DaisyTheGenuine

Well wait a minute

If you could see it back then

Why do you consider it hate now

I don't find taking a little inspiration as criminal. I assumed HYBE wanted a piece of NewJeans' market share for ILLIT. I thought of it as a joke and a form of flattery, while MHJ saw it as a threat. That's the only difference.

Quote from Yama-Chan

Yes, it was. And I've already admitted at least a dozen times now that MHJ single-handedly destroyed the legitimacy and credibility of my argument. But what really cemented it was Belift accessing the planning documents for NewJeans and getting outed by a whistleblower, not to mention the multiple lies they told, and the cherry on top that was that ridiculously edited video they uploaded to mass dislikes.

The funny thing is that my original stance has absolutely nothing to do with what you claimed, but I guess that was a nice attempt at deflecting and trying to direct the conversation to this irrelevant side bar.

I'm being very patient here and asking you to either come forward with evidence of Bunnies leaving hate comments towards other groups, outside of the names I mentioned, or stop spreading even more lies and misinformation. We get enough of that from all the company apologists.

I'm not sure if I'm allowed to call out the certain users but no, I'm not lying and neither am I spreading misinformation. Go search on AKP for the certain user along with the group name, for example - "userxyz lesserafim". Tell me if you won't find a single comment in the search results that is mocking ILLIT or LSFM.

Quote from Chemotter

I don't know how many times tokkis on here have to say this to be believed. We don't hate LSRFM or ILLIT. We hate their management.

We aren't frustrated about the future of Newjeans. They'll survive in some form. We know the legal process and the potential results it can bring. We are supportive of their choice to work with the people they want to work with and we support their autonomy to choose their artistic direction.

It isn't just kpopuncensored. Go look at the kpop megathread. Look at how much comments get deleted for breaking the subreddit rules. They call NJs brats and they are weaponizing the Gaeun situation and the death of factory workers to say Hanni didn't deserve her say at the NA. They are called brats, brainwashed and groomed. They drag the parents too.

What have the prominent tokkies on here have said about ILLIT and Le Serrafim on here? Please give us examples. You can go through the comments made by yama, daisy, mine, etc.

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I never said Yama, Daisy or you made hate comments for other HYBE girlgroups. But I have seen other tokkies here make insulting posts about these groups.

The problem with most fandoms is that they don't acknowledge that there's a problem within their fandom. Just because you and some other users don't have hard feelings, doesn't mean that the overall fandom is chill.

Quote from Yama-Chan

I can't believe I'm reading that there is a "sentiment" NewJeans was plagiarized and not HARD EVIDENCE of exactly that happening. And the not so subtle attempt to make it about ILLIT and not the talentless hacks at Belift

Is this user being paid by HYBE to spread more propaganda?

I have already expressed my hatred for HYBE even before the MHj feud happened here, so I would be last person to spread any propaganda for them. Also didn't you argue with me once that ILLIT and NewJeans' concepts are very different when I pointed out the similarity? Now that MHJ claims that it's plagiarized, you have changed your opinion.

Quote from Chemotter

This isn't the first rodeo for Kpop drama for the mods. You say it is sneaky, but what if the comments aren't as bad as you are making it out to be? Have you thought about that possibility?

I have seen how this forum has been when anons existed and I know how lighthearted the posts can be compared to the true feelings of the users. And since tokkies are the majority here, I don't believe everyone of them has no hard feelings for ILLIT or LSFM, especially with the frustration that NewJean's future as a group is uncertain. The subreddit, kpop uncensored like it's name doesn't censor hate towards any group, hence it become a HYBE echochamber, with no repercussions for the hate speech on the platform.

Quote from Chemotter

Where are the hate posts for LSFM and ILLIT? Go look at what Hybe-stans talk about NJs on reddit and twitter.

You know damn well that you are making a false equivalency.

The hate posts here are sneaky enough to dodge the mod warnings. The moment the mods here become lenient like that kpop subredddit, this place would be no different. There's already a profound sentiment here that other HYBE girlgroups are grabbing all of NewJeans opportunities and that ILLIT plagiarised NewJeans.

It's the reason why I don't pity the NewJeans fans on AKP. They are no different than the HYBE stans they hate and criticize. I see them making plenty of hate posts towards LSFM and ILLIT every week. They want this platform to be their echo chamber just like that subreddit called kpop uncensored.

She is still wearing makeup, but it's minimal.

I feel like the cutesy concept was a wrong move. Belift doesn't have the vision of MHJ to adapt this concept for the long term.

I would slightly blame HYBE more but both are at fault.

Ever since BTS went to the military, the fandom has never been the same. There's been plenty of tension between solo fans and hybe supporters on social media platforms like Twitter. The fans who lie between the common ground are becoming less vocal over time, mainly due to the fandom ageing. Maybe a BTS comeback might mend the atmosphere, but right now it's a mess.

satire post

To think they were aiming to be on the tier of Warner Records, lol.

Performative activism is the root problem.

I feel like this song can compete for the worst song of the year title. Wasn't expecting it to be this bad