Posts by kingkook

Quote from YamaChwan

Please leave your fake concern at the door.

It's already been confirmed that the worst of those chats were, big shocker, twisted by HYBE and further misconstrued by the mindless drones in the international community, as they were almost all directed at BSH and NOT NewJeans.

These texts are not new. I don't know why so many people are waiting for some hypothetical scathing response from NewJeans or their parents, when they have been ten toes down in support of Min Heejin regardless of HYBE's mud slinging.

While jobless HYBE stans are here concern trolling over how NewJeans could be reacting to these doctored texts, they were literally out enjoying a meal with MHJ and their staff not even a day after Dispatch re-published said texts.

Why the hell are we obsessing over these texts more than HYBE leaking pre-debut footage of minors and their medical history just to swing public opinion in their favor? By the way, it didn't work.

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Don't give me the whataboutism, I believe HYBE is just as bad as you do. The problem occurs when Min Heejin stans still support her despite all the relevations about her. And no, the chats are still not officially confirmed to be fake. Twisted maybe, but some of the stuff she said cannot be refuted as innocent no matter the context.

Quote from David33

DAMN!

How did you manage to be sexist and homophobe at the same time? Blinks are on another level for sure.

I don't think reading is your strong suite. OP definitely stated which audience the music is targeted towards as their main reason for liking BigBang. So how did you get this conclusion about me instead?

Quote from YamaChwan

Because I'm the consumer and I have the ability to assess whether a product was conceptualized and marketed towards me or not? Why do you care so much that I'm cognizant of that? It doesn't harm you in any way, and I can consume art however I see fit. Being aware of its intended audience doesn't mean I can't appreciate the art itself. Just because I know Frozen wasn't written and animated and directed with adult men as their primary audience, doesn't mean I can't still love the movie.

You are making a huge deal out of a no deal. Stop it. And I can use my own standards to judge for myself what I do and don't like in the market that is K-Pop.

Stop virtue signaling me. It's not cute.

I wouldn't have thousands of posts on a K-Pop forum, previously run a K-Pop YouTube channel and proudly worn my fandom on my sleeve when out in the public, if social stigmas attached to men who love K-Pop was something I really cared about, but I can just objectively ascertain exactly why one group may naturally appeal to me more than others.

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Which is why I said I found your reasoning for liking BigBang was weird. I am allowed to think you are weird that "not fitting inside the intended audience" gets in your way for liking a musical artist. Do you think it would acceptable if a straight person said they don't prefer listening to music from gay artists because they don't find it relatable? I mean that person is not obliged to like gay artists but that person's reasoning is tacky just like yours.

Quote from Prongs

Her being misogynist definetely not fit the narrative when most Ador employees are women. If anything, she seems like hate stupidity (she's NTP,they can't work with nonsense and stupid people).

I never really believe talk shit in Korean blind. If you are a person need to say something bad about someone behind their back,and made it public, It tells more about about you rather than someone you expose.

Women can also suffer from internalized misogyny. And again like I said before, most of the employees at Ador probably don't know her at a personal level. They probably don't know that an employee was sexually harrassed at the company before or maybe do but don't care about the case.

There are so many possibilities, so it's better to take the Ador employees' support at face value similar to alleged SM employee on Korean blind.

It will also be interesting to see how the NewJeans members themselves will react to how MHJ talks about them. If the chats turn out to real, will they still dismiss it and continue to support her?

Quote from YamaChwan

No kidding. Every aspect of modern society is a construct. What's your point? I never said anything about homosexuality, so don't project that view on to me just because I said that a group not aggressively marketed towards a female demographic is naturally more popular with men and accumulated a lot of male fans.

My second favorite group is Shinee. I have mentioned other boy groups I enjoy, even BTS.

Big Bang is just the cream of the crop. The best of the rest. The pinnacle. The zenith. The inflection point.

The Legends. The Leaders.

I don't care how much SVEZ and those rabid EXO-Ls cope and seethe over the true kings of K-Pop being recognized for their royal lineage.

Big Bang is a once in a LIFETIME group.

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Why do you care so much who they are marketed towards? You can enjoy the art without thinking about who the group is catering to.

I personally enjoy plenty of male audience catered tv shows. I never once did the demographic it was marketed for make me think less of the show. So I wonder why male kpop fans can't feel the same way?

Quote from YamaChwan

It's not weird and stop making this a bigger deal than it needs to be.

There is intentional marketing and strategy behind every group. Just look at all the dirt being dug up on Source and HYBE for an easy example

99.9% of boy groups are not conceptualized in a way that would appeal to male viewers or listeners. That's just a fact.

Big Bang is a huge exception to that rule. Instead, they appealed to the rule of cool. And guys can vibe to that all day.

It is what is is!

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Male gaze and female gaze are a social construct. A lot of men in my country would consider BigBang to be just as gay as any other kpop boygroup, like BTS, EXO or Seventeen. Only kpop stans have a different thought on this.

Quote from Prongs

I dunno. If she's truly toxic, everyone will just jump out at her after first Hybe striking. Even after chat leak. It's quite surprising tbh. Even the best idol would not stand this much of attack and still got support.

So,maybe there's something she did right in that company.

I read even one of ex trainee mum like mhj caricature (but it's way back in June). Not sure that mum feeling after leak about her consultation with shaman, tho.

I don't think everyone at Ador knows her at a personal level. In fact, only a few employees would be texting with her like in the leaked chats. Also, didn't a SM employee on the Korean blind make a post releaving that MHJ was toxic during her time at SM? Again why are we giving so much importance as to what the employees at Ador think of her? Maybe the majority are just as misogynist as her?

Male kpop stans have a very weird way to explain as to why they think BigBang is their fav kpop boygroup. For atleast half of them, the major reason is that BigBang is the only kpop boygroup that they can proudly express their admiration for without feeling gay. And it comes of as cringe when they openly state it like OP.

Quote from Prongs

well, in people defense...feminists these day is suffocating....

in other defense, who wants to work with people who suck at their job but good at screw someone else life...

She is like that one toxic female boss who believes they are superior to the entire female population because of their corporate achievements. Met plenty of women like her at work and they are insufferable to interact with.

Quote from Tatiana1820

She's probably talking about hybe . And these dumbasses added 'feminist' instead to make her lose the support of women in the gp . Or try lol. Nobody sane believes in hybe propaganda anymore .

Cause these texts are edited and non reliable and lol, in essence and content, these special passage totally describes hybe's behaviour and character .

Even if she is talking about non-Ador female employees, it doesn't change anything. This is about a woman is talking like this about other women. I wouldn't be badmouthing like this even if the other woman was a murderer or child-rapist. Unless this message is fake, there is no defending her.

The big 3 are the real winners. HYBE and MHJ have already lost, the moment they aired their dirty business to public.

I don't understand how can any woman (who's not a pick-me girl) support MHJ after seeing this particular message from her. If the chats are real, even with all the editing and distortion of context, only a real pick-me would say something like this.

M: "I seriously want to kill those feminists. They suck at their jobs and all they're good at is stuff like this. She'll pay for it. Trying to f*** up someone else's life. Not an ounce of guilt for the wrongs she did. If she did her job properly, I wouldn't be this mad.

2024 has been the most peaceful year for MYs. Such an amazing year (at least until now).

There are barely any kpop stans who like YG. Some kpop fans have dropped stanning groups like Blackpink just because they were under his company. Min Heejin has never gotten this much of a negative reaction. She is more of a polarizing figure than a hated one.

Quote from worlddome48

Lisa BP is way more popular WW than LiSA but in japan its opposite

A couple of years ago, if you would google the word "Lisa", you would get the japanese singer as the main result. Maybe people looked her up on Google before meeting her and had mistaken her to be Japanese. I'm guessing this happened to Lisa plenty of times, especially by interviewers.

Have people here suddenly forgotten that English is used worldwide and the language is not limited to the west? Singing in English widens your reach to not only the western market but also the international market. And for most companies, international reach >>>> being a hot shot in a single country (which in itself is not easy).

Quote from Aeicy

i wouldn't spend my money on a car no matter how pretty it is unless i was forced at gunpoint.

I mean if you can afford a McLaren, you can also afford a personal driver. Much better than sitting on dirty uber or public transportation seats.

I mean I thought it was obvious they traded the main vocalist positions for great dancers. Again their vocals are on par with the industry standards (I've seen plenty of BG encores) but because they are a SM group, they are on the spotlight.

Why does an AI artist with the same name already exist? This is so weird and doesn't seem like a coincidence.

Generic song.

Generic lyrics.

Generic music video.

I've seen better content from other Indie girl groups.

Isn't Heya's performance on k-charts similar to How Sweet? Why did you even make this thread? Are you so bored that you want another fanwar now with Dives and NewJeans haters?