Posts by itiswhatitisss

Quote from sveznalica

I disagree with this, Wonder Girls, Miss A and Twice sound nothing alike and all have distinct concepts from each other. I could even add Itzy to this mix because for 3 years they were extremely successful, they are maybe no longer on their peak but doesn't mean they are not successful group.

Afterall people considered JYP the best company for girl groups.

But he said 'for the moment' meaning now which is true. JYP GGs may have been great in the past but rn they are running out of ideas in the music & concept department and you know I'm right. Let's not even get into YG with whatever that new group was

HYBE on the other hand have LSFM & NewJeans serving interesting concepts and SM have aespa/Red Velvet doing the same (even in spite of LSM depaurtre). You just need to look at how SM/HYBE groups are doing on charts compared to YG (sans BP) and JYP. The former is blowing the latter out of the water rn for the reasons I said above

Quote from jadedcraze

Unpopular opinion but maybe Teddy should've been apart of this track.

This is making me miss Teddy's production more than ever tbh. He was the secret ingredient to 2NE1/BP success...he knew how to make a track that was catchy AF even if there were some cons to it (dated etc). You can see that even this year with Fast Forward and the whole album

This song sounds like they tried recreating his production but lacks all the stuff that made it good. I feel like if TBL ever have their own GG, it's gonna be alot more interesting than this one at least with their debut.

O.O was an obvious attempt at recreating Next Level hype but there are certain parts that are catchy idk

Batter Up is just a Teddy song without any of the things that made his work great

I'd rather be remembered for trying and failing to do something daring than for releasing the 15th, less superior version of the same song. One may be bad but it's at least memorable, the other is purely forgettable

tbh they seem to be mimicking similar trajectories, by this time in aespa's career RV only really had OOTN being an underperformance which you could say was their 'Girls'

aespa has the slight edge because they have a much bigger fandom by far

How many times y'all gonna make this thread

How is it shocking when everybody is checking them out because of BP & they have a huge SEA fanbase, they're probably at the same level of hype, if not, more than NewJeans

The Spotify numbers are probably gonna be great too, the test is longevity and how it will do compared to other 4th Gen comebacks/debuts in the long run. I feel like they will do great in SEA but the rest of the world is a toss up

Quote from Dreamer95

Last time I check they had same amount of streams on Melon. Digital index is a weird and has always been, plus you can't track it if the song isn't in top100. I'll never trust that metric over actual streams.

And the last person whose opinion I'd consider when it comes to TwicexBP is a loser like yourself.

Streams that can easily be manipulated by fandoms...okay

Literally tried to be objective and you're still mad whatkfdhgfdhe

Quote from icyruios

The real question you guys should be asking is that this debut took so long? Like this is the song they actually took so long to prepare for

This

We really waited nearly a year for this lazy female Treasure'd mess, at least with BP the long wait was worth it and their debut was actually memorable

They should've just snatched up KOL or XG or something

Quote from Dreamer95

It was biggest but not "by far"

Dalla Dalla is at around 900m digital points last time I checked while other songs like KTL and Fancy are only around like 400m-500m so yeah it is "by far"

That entire year idol groups were underperforming besides that and BTS, it wasn't until Psycho at the end of the year that things turned around

I'd say overall it's a toss-up, sort of the transition period where BP started gaining crazy popularity and Twice were nearing the end of their huge reign

It's like a Teddy song without any of the stuff that made Teddy's stuff good. Like a female Treasure tbh. Their ages especially prevent them from really pulling off this savage/badass conept unlike BP/2NE1, something brigther or more teen crush leaning would've suited them alot better.

I liked the rap, YG never fails with that, but that's it really. Kinda giving BlackPink dupe, again without any of the stuff that made them interesting. This will probably smash because everyone's seated for BP successors but if YG wants them to compete with the likes of NewJeans in the long run they've got to up their game.

It's interesting cause Karina also leads massively with fancam views as well, I think she's just generally really popular with non-stans hence the bigger following

That crown could've gone to Winter during BM-Savage but she's kinda doesn't really have a personality or presence as engaging as Karina's which was why I suspect the latter eventually surpassed her after Girls

The doomposting on the first page when it's merely an issue with Kakao and their shipping

KPOP isn't seeing a 'decline' anytime soon as long as groups like NewJeans are thriving, plus aespa just had their biggest streaming hit with Drama. They'll be fine.

Yeah this might be their least cohesive mini along with Girls. Drama is god-tier, Don't Blink is excellent, Trick or Trick is alright, the rest I barely played more than once. Better Things, Hot Air Balloon & YOLO especially seems out of place on an album like this and it would've been better if it had more hard-hitting songs like with Savage EP

Tbh would've made more sense if this & MY WORLD were combined into a full album or something

Interesting how the opposite seems to be happening for aespa and they're doing kinda better on Spotify & worse on Melon Rising in streams on a Saturday is a great sign....now for Melon I guess Monday updates will be the true test, I'm not really expecting anything outstanding but given the international reception, let's see

Quote from K-PL

Karina cbar is boycotting bulks, like Sakura cbar for the last lsf album.

I expect they will end up with similar sales to their last album.

This current album is mid though. It will affect them next comeback, not this comeback because of preorders.

Music quality has never affected fandom growth though unless it's embarrassingly bad like NMIXX

Anyway, aespa queens making sure to put themselves in the same league as the boy groups d oing 10+ versions of their album #Feminism

I mean wbk girl groups mostly rely on casual fans when it comes to streams & album sales aren't the best indicator of a strong fanbase now, that's not any different for most of the GGs nominated. TWICE & BP (or Jisoo in this case) took years to build up a large dedicated voting fanbase compared to these newer groups that have been out for less than like 4 years

They should just make a separate category like they did for afrobeats this year imo

They probably would've been the first 4th gen GG to hit 1M and could probably pull a decent tour. They weren't very popular internationally though (doubt it would've improved) and in Korea their charting was very fandom-fueled for the most part and had experienced a decline following Fiesta so, basically end up being the boy group of girl groups

I thought this was Savage level at first, then thought it would rank below Girls/Savage....but for the entire day 'I'm the dramamamama' has been stuck in my head and the production is insane. I'll go with Blop but I'm leaning towards bop tbh, they always do experimental right

The MV is amazing and I'll the callbacks to older films, they're doing Y2K in a unique and interesting way compared to every other company's take on it

The song was very samey and not memorable, but at the same time I understand trying to come back safe seeing how her reputation is still a bit shaky. It's like when RV came back with Queendom after Irene's scandal, the song was pretty bad for their standards but they needed a safe song to re-introduce themselves to the GP again after all that had happened.

Yeah she was mostly known for that sexy aura during GIDLE but with everything that happened with the bullying mess undoubtedly affecting her mentally I'm not sure if we'll ever get that sexy confident Soojin back again.