Posts by jt3000

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It's funny right when people told you how to feel. Bts getting bigger and have wider audiences far before Dynamite, Butter and PTD. So, why they still able to get huge fanbase there before all their English released? And at user jt3000 , from your reply I definitely know you're not into your faves group because of their music, because I'm 100% sure you don't speak Korean. And the fact that Kpop is really big in Asian, that don't even speak korean is already the biggest fouls in your statement. I don't remember any kpop groups especially the popular one released anything in Tagalog, Thai, Chinese or Hindi yet their music and influence reach that countries. See how many users from different countries in this forum alone already debunked your claim that music is not universal enough to attract people that don't speak the same language. And you acts like translation is not a thing and we live in 1900 where we don't have this.

Last but not least to you jt3000, don't tell people how to feel. Bts is not known for their visual especially at the beginning of their career. And I solely get into Bts because of their music that I accidentally found and the lyrics just hit me right especially when I was dealing with my mental health problem at that time. I'm not even a fans. So, don't you dare to tell what other should feel when they the one who through that experiences. If you don't feel like music giving you something other than to entertain you, then you do you but there are lot of us that using it as therapy.

I never said you had to understand a song's lyrics to enjoy the music. But if I wanted to listen to something with meaningful lyrics, I'm certainly not listening to a Kpop song, BTS or otherwise. It's amazing what teenagers consider deep.

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0003tj, give it a rest. You are arguing with FANS about what they should feel or not and how their experience is wrong and trying to invalidate everything bc you are extremely salty that both groups got big and mind you, they started getting bigger with KOREAN songs.

Music transcends language, art transcends countries and your petty arguments is transcending every illogical argument.

Give it a rest.

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I didn't have to read any translation to understand Suga's desperation in songs like So Far Away. It made me cry without understanding a word. But I guess not everyone has this empathy. Yes, music can trascend languages. Even music with no lyrics. What you say is stupid.

I would point out just how hysterically ironic this is, but I think it speaks for itself.

em·pa·thy

noun

1. the ability to understand and share the feelings of another

I'm sorry to say that what you experienced wasn't empathy, it was just you being overdramatic while lacking any meaningful context for what you were listening to.

Big nope.

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And you're not even a funny troll

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Anyway, hope you get past the phase of being a troll on a kpop forum, can't be that fun

This is AKP. It's not a phase.

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It is quite literally not that deep you're just trying to argue for the sake of doing it at this point here

I'm not. I genuinely care about the physical & mental wellbeing of BTS fans and everyone around them.

At least they're not these guys.

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Oh man you must be fuuun at parties

At my last party, I presented a dissertation on the ethics of marketing dynamite and related explosive devices to the impressionable youth of society.

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Why would i care

Because their hyper-materialism is what makes them "bad bih", of course! Everything Blackpink is predicated on the bling-bling! If you don't have the bling-bling, you can't be a "bad bih" like them!

This is what happens when you allow people who peddle this stuff to become popular. They're like capitalism's spokeswomen.

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No i don't care actually

Are you sure?

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Idk what you talking about but BP's songs make me feel like a bad bih in any language

Until you remember that you can't afford any of the materialistic luxury objects they're always rapping about in 90% of their songs.

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Blackpink’s music is more powerful and rememberable with the beat drops, even if you don’t like the songs. And they do girlcrush concept which is popular in the US, little mix and fifth harmony for example are badass for kpop standards and their image is interesting for many people who aren’t kpop stans. I’m not even gonna talk about bts. You sound salty af

Yes, I'm salty that they're so incredibly overrated. People out here acting like pop songs have actual lyrical depth now.

It probably goes without saying that I disagree with everything you just said. There's nothing powerful or memorable about repetitive trap beat songs. They're a dime a dozen, and that's just in Blackpink's discography! Amongst the larger musical landscape, I've probably heard literally thousands of songs that sound just like your typical Blackpink song post-DDDD. It was nice to hear them finally do something different in one or two songs on their latest album, but that's just a drop in the ocean when their singles all sound the same.

"Girl crush?" Red Velvet can do that too. They've already done it several times. But no, the "girl crush" concept isn't actually popular in the US, mainly because concepts aren't popular in the US. The music comes first here, image second, and when it comes to an artist's image, we don't usually try to put everything in a neat box with a bow on top. That's why artists who are quirky and think outside the box become so popular. Most Americans would have no idea what "girl crush" even means. Hell, even I'm not entirely sure what it's meant to encompass, and I've been following Kpop for the past decade!

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I like red velvet more than blackpink but this is very unlikely. And I became an army when I read the lyric translation of love maze because I could relate to it, so don’t go around as if it’s facts

You had to read a translation, which actually proves my point. Not only are most people not even going to bother doing that, but a lot of context can potentially be lost in translation since languages don't usually compare 1:1. This is why they release English songs. Not that I honestly believe BTS's pretty typical, lovey dovey pop lyrics are more than puddle deep in any language, but that's beside the point.

You say it's unlikely but you don't provide any reasons why.

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Nope and I say that as a Reveluv. BTS delivers universal messages in their songs that transcend language. No other Kpop act has been able to replicate that.

Wut? No message transcends language. You have to be able to understand the message. That's why they started releasing songs in English. LOL

Speaking of which, I don't know about Korea, but I think Red Velvet could have easily seen just as much success in the US as Blackpink if SM had actually made a genuine attempt at promoting the English version of Bad Boy and didn't give up on them so quickly. Their "red" songs may be a bit out there, but their "velvet" songs are pretty compatible with American tastes. Oh, and they're a lot more talented on average. Americans respect talent, which makes even highly manufactured pop acts a bit more palatible.

RV had a US tour prior to Covid and haven't been heard from since here, not even releasing any more English versions of their songs. SM thinks they're going to hit gold with Aespa instead, but they've fallen flat so far. They just don't have the same appeal. Just based on their concept and performance skills, or lack thereof, they look like the epitome of inorganic stardom to your average observer.

Best English Kpop rapper? Her lyrics aren't even in English, they're gibberish.

Congratulations to Blackpink for having more expensive tickets than everyone else. Masters of milking their fandom for everything they're worth!

Who do y'all keep bumping this old nothing burger of a thread? Smells fishy...

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T-Ara never really stopped promoting. It 's just that few people pay attention to it.

Prior to their reunion last year, they hadn't promoted since 2017. I would call that a stoppage in promotions. And just like their reunion, all of these others will be equally temporary. I could see some of these groups reuniting again in the future, but we won't be seeing any of them on a regular basis.

This thread is so cringe. BTS fans...

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mmh delicious pink slime.

That's what hot dogs are made of.

Chicken nuggets are white slime.