I think Feel My Rhythm was even worse and only had one week, right? Because of covid.
Yeah, they only got three or four performances in, but they had already said it was the last week of promotions, so they definitely planned for only two. Most groups seem to be doing the same. It also feels like a lot of groups go on less shows per week than they used to, but in many cases that's because of weird beefs their companies have with certain networks. 
Quarkie explained why some posts above :
it had been said before the start of promotions for ITZY, as for Red Velvet
That's not it. Every group I follow has been promoting for only two weeks, no matter when their song was released. RV have promoted their last THREE comebacks for only two weeks each (or at least that was the plan for FMR.)
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I was just thinking about this. Since KARA came back and everyone was talking about them and how big they were
I have never heard a KARA song in my life. Nor T- ARA. Or any number of the other GG’s with hits.
But I have heard Suju and SNSD and 2ne1 or at least a few of their famous songs.... just because they were big acts of current big companies. I have no interest or motivation to go and listen to old music. And no one was there to even like talk about these old hits. But company Stan’s always keep their seniors alive in some capacity.
Anyway honestly I think this is the biggest privilege a big company has.
Translation: "I can't be bothered to familiarize myself with older groups, so they must not have a legacy or lasting popularity, despite all the evidence to the contrary."
I guess we're all living in a simulation and ISaidISaid is the main character.
Sacrilege. 
Their outlook is the same as it ever was: bleak.
Ok I zero clue what you're point is anymore.
So you just said even BP touring achievements have no merit because they can't definitively be the biggest because they don't have competition. That doesn't make a lick of sense.
And yeah you are downplaying Asia. Saying Tokyo Dome doesn't matter (lol) when it's a huge venue both physically and status wise.
I never said anyone's achievements don't have merit, I'm not even trying to downplay them, but it's a simple fact that being the CURRENT biggest girl group does not automatically make you the biggest EVER. I'm not sure what isn't clicking for you.
Tokyo Dome has a big status. In Japan. Outside of Japan? No one cares that you held a concert there. Most people have no idea what the Tokyo Dome even looks like or where it's located. I'm not downplaying Asia, I think you're purposely downplaying everywhere else at this point.
Display MoreFriendship is measured by the Highs and Lows, us fans have seen it with TWICE, from Jeongyeon complaining about TWICE member's tidyness to Nayeon's Congradulory Hits. JiHyo has said they have "meetings" to get it all out so there is no pretension that TWICE members are all angels with each other.
Korean Law will not be in favor of a claim where there is quarrelling for a reason to leave a group UNLESS the Individual has been specifically targetted by the rest of the Group which doesn't apply with Jinni.
JYP or correctively JYPark has absolutely no hand in the Management of any JYPE Idol Group so he would have no idea what is happening in NMIXX and probably found out that Jinni was leaving much later than SQU4D
Btw.
SQU4D manage NMIXX, they would be the first to be aware of Jinni's plans and how they managed her and the other members of NMIXX.
So the possible reasons for Jinni getting out of the Contract is....
* She was bullied by other members which is unlikely
* She was Dating, as she is a Minor under Korean Law then its' grounds for JYPE not to contest
* There was undeniable evidence that she was a Bully
Occasional petty arguments aren't the same as the sort of quarrelling that leads to bullying accusations and people leaving groups. The rumor stated in the OP is that NMIXX are "always in a quarrel." Doesn't sound anything like Twice to me. You seem to be blowing casual commentary on their relationships with each other out of proportion.
Since when does JYP not manage his company's groups? Because that's news to me. Last I checked he was very much involved in Twice's & Itzy's comebacks. Regardless of who released Jinni from her contract, I think it's presumptuous to assume she needed a valid legal basis for having it terminated. Perhaps JYPE could have kept her locked in the dungeon and terminating her contract would be considered a favor, but there's no reason to assume they couldn't come to a mutual understanding. Kpop companies do a lot of shitty things, but they don't have to be shitty to their employees so long as the law allows it.
I also don't know how you came to the conclusion that bullying is unlikely or doesn't apply to her situation, because we have no idea. I'm not actually going to speculate that she was being bullied, but it's not a possibility we can rule out (and based on what?) There's a lot of possibilities for why she's left, certainly more than just the three you've outlined. I have no clue what you even mean by JYPE "not contesting" someone dating. It's not a crime (except when it is.)
What are you even trying to say anymore?
So what BP is achieveling now doesn't mean much at all because there no other gg contemporaries from any country are currently touring like them like you said about 2G era?
Wht does so called "legitimacy" hold so much weight when at the end of the day raw numbers (revenue, attendance) shows the Asia only tours were still very successful even compared to western ggs like little mix or Girls Aloud or Saturdays who toured outside Asia (like I said SNSD held 5 of the biggest tours if all time including western ggs)? It sound like you're just downplaying Asia as a poor loser place which is ironic given you're into Kpop.
I'm saying your narrative that 2nd gen groups could tour just like the top 3rd gen groups is inaccurate. SNSD could not tour outside of Asia. They made one TV appearance in the US and were never heard from again outside of KCON, which isn't even an individual concert.
What BP (and others) are achieving is impressive for a Kpop group. There have been bigger girl groups than them worldwide however. They simply don't have that sort of competition to worry about these days, so it's easy to say "biggest girl group in da world!" Same goes for the 2nd gen groups. No one else was putting out popular girl groups at that time.
Legitimacy is important because... when isn't it? Having people worldwide know your name is objectively better than having only Koreans or Japanese know who you are. It doesn't matter if you can fill the Tokyo Dome, this will still hold true. And guess what, Twice even filled the Tokyo Dome recently! Three times! But the fact that they're popular enough to also tour in places where previous groups could not is, yes, more impressive! I'm not downplaying anything, it's common sense really.
The numbers for Twice aren't similar anymore, but even if they were, being able to reach a wider audience would still be more impressive than filling venues of a similar size in just one region. There's more important metrics to deciding a group's worldwide popularity than just the raw number of butts in seats.
I mentioned TWICE to show how normal it is for members to argue and Jinni can't get out of her contract because of that since she would fail under Korean Law.
As Jinni has no case for bullying then the Saesangs claims that quarrelling is not enough of a legal reason for her to get out of her contract.
Except we have no reason to believe it's a normal occurrence for Twice to argue, so you continuing to insert them into the conversation like they're some sort of measuring stick for groups who argue a lot is just bizarre.
What makes you think Korean law has anything to do with this? I'm no fan, but maybe JYP isn't an evil slave master who responds to people wanting to leave with things like, "There's no valid legal basis for terminating your contract, so you're shit out of luck?"
Except they didn't outdo the groups that have a larger touring footprint now. They were only outdoing their contemporaries that toured the same places as them. It's also not a big deal to say you're the biggest girl group in the world when practically all of the big girl groups were not only coming out of the same country at that time, but also staying fairly close to home. There were no true worldwide phenomenons like the Spice Girls. Even if all of the big girl groups are still Kpop groups, some of them holding actual world tours instead of staying in East Asia gives them more legitimacy than what they had back then.
No one said anything about Twice, and who are you to judge what's a good reason for JYPE to allow her out of her contract? If she wants out of her contract, that's a good enough reason!
People need to stop believing seasangs. They're just gossiping most of the time, and if you gossip enough, you're eventually going to accidentally get something right.
They certainly were.
SNSD at the time was the biggest touring gg in the world and had like 5 of the 10 biggest grossing gg tours of all time beaten by the likes of Spice Girls. I think only BP has since grossed more with with a much longer tour and more frequent stops.
Kara was was at the time the 2nd biggest touring gg in the world for a short time till members leaving. I think 2ne1 also had success with Japan tour and other ggs had smaller Asia and Japan tours which also brought in relatively big numbers for them.
They were touring Korea & Japan. That's it. Maybe the occasional stop in Southeast Asia. None of those groups were ever touring the US or other major markets outside of Asia.
Display MoreNostalgia is created by reliving the past and sharing similar experience with those around you, longing for the good ol days.
Millennials (and older, maybe gen Z) lived in a time where everyone experienced the same things and not everything was recorded or easily relivable. People of the generation lived a similar and relatable experience.
There were limited channels on TV and you only had a few shows you can watch and on certain time slot. For most, if you missed it, you have to wait until next time its air. People bought their music from local stores and still had a limited selection relative to what is available today. Most of the stuff had to be in memories.
The power of nostalgia lies in our imperfect memories of the past. Nostalgia isn't about the details but the experience, it's about how the times felt instead of how it actually happened.
With the current generations now, you have streaming services like Netflix, HBO, Disney+, you can rewatch old movies anytime you want, easily accessible at the palm of your hands. You can watch most old content on Youtube somewhere with every detail. Our rose color glasses becomes alot more clear.
Digital and streaming services also means instead of consuming the content that is available at the time on the limited amount of channels you had, you can choose to watch whatever you want. Instead of listening to songs only popular enough to be on the radio, you can listen to whatever you like.
With the improvement of technology and the digital era, kids no longer have to dig through childhood memories. Everyones phone now have cameras and everything is recorded. You want to check on the past, you can check on Facebook what happened on certain date and time. You can watch any movie you want at any time and listen to any music you want at any time. Much of what I mentioned contributes to the feeling of nostalgia, many with argue those who grew up in the digital era will never experience nostalgia the same way as previous generations.
Nostalgia is a sentimental affection for the past, which advances in technology would have little affect on. For starters, personal nostalgia and communal nostalgia are two different things. Even if we're speaking strictly in terms of communal nostalgia, having a larger amount of media at your fingertips will typically do little to change what's actually popular and which group experiences people will remember communally. Media consumption hasn't changed nearly as much as the methods in which it's delivered. There could be a billion TV channels and there would still be a show that's #1 in the ratings for your country. Same goes for song charts and top 40 radio, which people still listen to despite having other options. Our media consumption simply isn't that fractured yet (it also wasn't THAT much more homogenous 30 years ago. In fact, I think I had more TV channels in the 90s than I do now...) We have things we didn't before, such as streaming services, but those are super popular, meaning they are creating a communal experience still.
Sure, you can choose to live the hipster life and end up with a fondness for things most other people never experienced, but that was always the case, and you'll still feel personal nostalgia for those things once enough time has passed. The Internet and our general connectedness has made it much easier to find others who shared similar niche interests as well, you who can then share your nostalgia with (while I wouldn't say it's something I feel nostalgic about, despite being around long enough to have followed these 2nd gen groups, a lot of us would have never been introduced to Kpop without this very digital age connectedness.) Everyone becomes nostalgic at some point. Youngsters wouldn't know, because they aren't old enough to be nostalgic, but they will experience that longing for the past eventually.
Yes but also depends on timing.
This year is the golden year of gg, even some of the crappier gg songs manage to chart but wouldn’t have had it been release at other time. And nostalgia is a big thing.
Groups that I think can manage to do this out of 3rd Gen are probably just twice, blackpink, and gfriend - all has positive public affinity. OMG is any possible candidate too
It's like finding out 
