Posts by stan12345

  • Official Digital Thread

    RV and Itzy having their first comeback since New Jeans had their debut and Ive/LSF/G-idle blew up (further for some) and the results aren't great so far (a bit too early to conclude).


    The market is too saturated for all these gg's to consistently hold the interest of the public so not too surprising none are racing out the blocks.


    Itzy even moved back to a 6pm release but I don't think it made a difference and RV fell to 70th on the 2nd day on Genie which is usually a favourable chart for them.

  • Fuck MAMA, Idle won the hearts

    New Jeans nominated for Daesangs that other rookie girl groups that won awards weren't even up for yet coming home empty handed is a bigger surprise for me than G-Idle.


    G-Idle were just unfortunate and their lack of popularity internationally relative to other also came into play.

  • Official Digital Thread

    Quote from uwuwu-99

    Yeah nvm the charts are in a different position so I read them wrong. Then I guess it would be those 2 god songs, I doubt there's any other 1st gen song with more.

    Atlantis Princess has 3.5m (Boa)


    None of Rain's are particularly high.


    Other that that can't think of anyone else. I thought COOL might have a song with either Aloha or Women on the Beach as the latter is a summer song that still charts during the year occasionally but it's 3.1m.


    Can't think of any other seasonal 1st gen songs.

  • Official Digital Thread

    That page is pretty confusing, can't tell what the numbers are meant to show?


    Looking at this, One Candle and Road have god's highest ULs with 3.3m


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  • RE: Is fearless or sneakers the bigger hit

    Quote from MassiveKpopFan

    Sneakers is still in the top 50 of the daily chart lol, you must have seen the realtime chart.


    But everything else you said is correct. Fearless is by far bigger in every aspect.

    You're right in that it's in the top 50 - I got confused though by comparing their daily UL's on the Guyso.me chart and not realising the number it gives once you hover over a UL is not the daily position but the number of days it has been on the chart corresponding to the UL. Don't know how I missed that.

  • RE: Is fearless or sneakers the bigger hit

    Quote from Whi

    that’s actually a really good but often overlooked point! there’s a reason most songs that got paks actually don’t perform as well as that artist’s previous release (eg: gidle’s tomboy vs nude, ive’s love dive vs after like, aespa’s next level vs savage, taeyeon’s weekend vs invu, mamamoo’s um oh a yeh vs you’re the best): the paks show the impact of people’s anticipation after a preceding hit song, not the pak song itself, but peeps who have no knowledge of charts keep using paks to start fanwars thinking a song with paks always means bigger hit song than no pak lol. It’s embarrassing for them really

    For me the initial anticipation of the next release is one of the biggest indicators of impact of a song (especially for newer groups). TT had more PAKs and higher peaks then Cheer Up on anticipation alone.


    Using Twice as an example - Signal was the first dent in Twice's initial run and even though the song itself hit no.1 off the back of Knock Knock, Likey is Twice's only song between Cheer Up --> Yes or Yes to not hit number one on Melon and that came after Signal being underwhelming for the public (which was a strongly vocalised opinion at the time). Likey not hitting number one at the time felt more indicative of Signal's reception (songs used to routinely peak first few days back then), as their next song (Heartshaker) went back to hitting number one and Likey got the 2.5m certification from Gaon (whilst Signal remains their only title track from that period to not have it).


    So Signal had the peaks, all-kills and no.1 but Likey turned out to be the bigger song without the no.1 on Melon and the subsequent success of Heartshaker also proves that.

  • RE: Is fearless or sneakers the bigger hit

    Quote from Whi

    ik fearless is still in top 30 but didn’t know sneakers is already out of top 100 despite being released 2 months later than fearless :wow: when you put it that way, plus the fact that fearless did a lot better than sneakers on spotify, it does seem the answer is obviously fearless. but don’t you think sneakers’s going viral and making a dramatic climb on charts surely helped put it back into this race debate? :/

    Not necessarily - the initial performance of their next release will be a good indicator of the impact Sneakers had so I'm curious to see that.


    Anti-Fragile's performance out the blocks shows the impact and subsequently the momentum Fearless bought about.

  • RE: Is fearless or sneakers the bigger hit

    I actually don't think this is very close.


    Sneakers did not peak high enough for this to be a peak versus longevity debate. Their difference in peak UL's is around 60k on Melon which isn't much at all to discern much from.


    Fearless is at 2.5m ULs on Melon and Sneakers at 2.2m. With Sneakers already out of the top 100 on Melon and Fearless still in the top 30, that gap will just keep getting bigger.


    Internationally it's clearly Fearless as well going by Spotify streams.

  • Official Digital Thread

    Wonder if JYP's approach to promo with this digital release will make a difference. Doing music show performances and including so many idols before releasing the song digitally.


    Charlie Puth also currently has 4 songs in the Melon top 100. I can imagine the only other western singer to get near that/beat it would be Bieber.

  • Most people that aren’t EXO are unable to tour big in Korea because their albums are digitally irrelevant

    Quote from the101

    She's repeatedly said in this thread that she was only speaking from the perspective on EXO and didn't care about other groups. It's even the change to the title of the thread.


    Everyone else has brought in NCT because it's popular to drag them here and everywhere.


    (Although as one of the ones that always defending NCT here, I find it highly amusing that people keep insisting big fandoms drive concert tours and album sales while simultaneously saying no one in Korea has ever possibly heard of NCT. What in the Harry Potter magic is this?)

    No she didn't - she only started peddling that when the argument fell apart as the logic didn't hold. Just like how she switched from people going to concerts because they listen to their b-sides to "I don’t care why that fan is there in that concert hall"

    Quote from the101

    Well it took us seven pages to get to the "dumb girls thinking with their p*ssies" comments, so I suppose it's progress that it took that many pages?


    I mean I guess kudos for avoiding the obvious "oppa" comment?


    ;judgingpepe:

    This is how I know you're incapable of defending your position, switching to push misogyny whilst clearly ignoring the point about made about fans of girl groups as well. Try harder next time.

  • Most people that aren’t EXO are unable to tour big in Korea because their albums are digitally irrelevant

    Quote from ISaidISaid

    Bro people have opinions and you’re going to have to accept it. Why are so so desperate for me to agree I found IU impressive. Why are you so desperate for my validation. What is it to you if I consider concerts more important.


    I actually consider two things important b sides and concert (and I have been saying that from the start and it’s literally there in the OP) so first of all you randomly brought up IU who was always able to chart her b sides when I was talking about the people who can’t do that.


    For this discussion IU is not even considered. Stop wasting everyone’s time just because you’re triggered and offended over people having opinions.

    What on earth are you going on about. You've been parroting how bigger tours equals more relevance and a bigger musical act.


    This was you:


    "Yes IU is more relevant and impressive now that she’s done a big tour than when she only had digital hits. No matter how man times I share my stance you keep asking the same silly questions. Yes till before that her digitals hits meant nothing for me."


    NCT toured in bigger venues than IU in did in her first 7 years. That's your logic leading to a ridiculous opinion. Just because it's your opinion it doesn't mean people can't call out the stupidity of it.


    I don't care for your validation or IU, I was just highlighting how ridiculous your argument was as you persisted with that logic. I didn't randomly bring up IU, I bought her up to as a measure against your logic.


    It's funny to me how arrogant you're coming across with such an opinion.