Posts by Yuckfire

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she said in the first response that she did curse at her former friend, try to smoke once or twice out of curiosity but didn't do any bullying. SHE SAID THAT IN HER FIRST RESPONSE.

Do you even remember how many accusation she got in the first time. She try to address as many things as possible. But the only thing netizen take note is how she said she "didn't remember" when they totally misinterpret what she said.

And then what ? Her response backfire to her, her group and her company. And there was even more accusation made to her (which are proved to be the same person making different account btw). How can you blame her for trying to stay quiet, collect all the evidences and came up at the right statement that people don't misinterpret it again. Jeez.

I guess it's kinda also help that her accusers are bad liars who contradict their own statement and made knets raise some suspicion.

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"she said in the first response that she did curse at her former friend, try to smoke once or twice out of curiosity but didn't do any bullying"

Yeah and I hated it. Why did we need the first stuff when the main issue is bullying?

"How can you blame her for trying to stay quiet, collect all the evidences and came up at the right statement that people don't misinterpret it again"

Oh that's what im blaming her for. Yeah, that's not true. Gather your evidence and make your statement never said she shouldn't do that. I just didn't like what was in it and that it took way too long for a simple bullying allegation.

Listen maybe she didn't do it, maybe she did.

Quote from invstor099

Well:

1. Didn’t she say she wrote it frantically without thinking because of the situation? Felt the purpose was to address the fans because this incident came out unexpectedly. It’s a natural reaction isn’t it? They also tried reaching out several times until they met and turned out inconclusive since both sides aren’t backing down.

2. Nobody is manipulating you. I think you are doing a strawman here. Just made that statement inferring from “She is STILL doing that thing of admitting to small details but denying the big stuff. I hate when celebrities do that. Its manipulative.“. You made that bold assertion, so I’m presenting that with seeing the alternative.

3. It’s possible. If she made a mistake, backing down would harm her position as well. What I see is Cube pressuring for the accuser to back down or actually presenting evidence. The fact Soojin is also making that big claim seems to hint they have certain evidences against the accuser - and of course, this is just speculation at this bit. It’s easier for them to come to a legal agreement without the courts to cover their position.

In the end you may believe what you want. Some of us just have a deferring point of view based on what we gathered, and it is also valid as well. We will only know the truth when everything is uncovered.

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1.True and that's why it was a bad statement.

2.Maybe I should I have said I find it manipulative. Your alternative could be true, I just don't see why other idols can say they didn't do it, period but she can't .

3.I think cube is going all the way here and i think the accuser is going all the way so im sensing a settlement.

4.Correct and I really wish that wasn't the conversation. This happened a long time ago, im not fan of it.

Quote from Alex_Murphy

I still don't understand what you want. You speak like someone who knows something that we don't, but it's obvioulsy not the case. You blame her for things she didn't admit AND you blame her for things she DID admit. A perfect case of "damned if you do and damned if you don't". It's ridiculous.

What?

" Soojin did you bullying in middle school?"

"No"

"Ok, moving on"

That's really all I said she should have done, what's this blaming stuff?

Quote from invstor099

Hmm didn’t she denied those allegations in her first statement?

Exactly and if she just did that, you know like everyone else did. I wouldn't have an issue.

Like I said, soojin was probably a mean girl who angered a lot of people and now they want to take her down.

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If she wasn't a (g)i-dle member, we wouldn't even be talking about it.

There is a lot more truth to this statement than I am comfortable with.

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You see this 🖕, shove it in your salty ass

Lol what a dumb weirdo

So you attack me and then run when confronted.

Quote from invstor099

You could also view it this way:

1. She was probably trying to reach out to the accuser to understand the accusations first. If she made a mistake she would have to apologise.

3. It happened in middle school and probably she only admit to details she remembers? She doesn’t need to apologise for what she didn’t do too.

What is also odd is that:

1. Victim is not presenting any evidence for this entire period.

2. Her elder sister (or her friend) laughing and mocking about wanting Soojin’s death(?).

Additional points:

1. Soojin literally made the bold claim she would stake her career.

I tried being as neutral as possible, but as the case unfolds I’m leaning closer to Soojin’s case being exaggerated to ruin her career out of spite.

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Soojin staking her career doesn't mean a thing when cube will kick her out anyway.

1.She made a personal statement at the beginning, you don't do that if you want to understand perspective.

2. i never said she had to apologize on what she didn't do but don't manipulate me. Just say you didn't do it, period.

3.nobody presented any evidence, true and i never said she was telling the truth. I just said that they are going way too far for this to be a lie, with lawyers and meeting with cube.

4.No, that isn't weird to me. I said this person wants to destroy her career from the beginning whether true or false and no apology will suffice.

Ive never been neutral, whether she did it or not she shouldn't lose her career over this. Its never been right to me. Instead of having that conversation we gotta have a court battle.

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I can understand the pain in your ass, the way you kept on spamming everywhere "soojin is done, nothing can save her" bla bla bla and you have always kept a passive aggressive stance against soojin. Earlier you were complaining why is cube not taking any legal action and now they are taking legal action so you got new problem with that.

Funny to see how you try to be as much backhanded in your shady posts against soojin just to try to appear as if you are neutral and credible.

You and jasida are basically the same, its just that you try to keep it as much lowkey and sugarcoated as possible while that troll jasida does it in a very obvious way

Now coming to your points:

1) collecting information and details about something that happened like 10 years ago takes time, it was good that cube and soojin took their time and came up with a very detailed statement. They do are filing for false allegations too

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They are not leaving an empty window, soojin is giving everyone assurance and is strengthening her stance and showing her confidence on her statement. She and cube has said many many times that she is not guilty and are even saying that in this statement too.

2) bla bla bla bullshittry

3) she is admitting to what is true like trying cigarettes 2-3 times and that argument on phone... but she has been saying this since the beginning that the accusations of bullying and violence are false. Why should she admit to crimes she didn't even commit.

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You. You posts pann articles as a defense and you want to come at me for credibility?

Go to the first post of her being accused and you will find me against her losing her career and her being criticize for this.

Heck I have constantly been saying that idols should not lose their careers for what happened when they were kids

But I guarantee you if this wasn't a g idle member, you would be on the other side.

My "aggressive stance" are the garbage optics.

I have said that about everything and the fact that this is now grown, I was right

Complaining about them not taking legal action which I do not have a problem with and in this post even said so doesn't mean I'm going ok with them being late.

1. Funny, other companies didn't need a month to defend their idols and no, they have not been consistent. They say she didn't do it then they say we are getting facts on what happened after saying she didn't do it. If they just said the latter, there be no issue. Its called lawyer talk.

3.She is admitting to the stuff that will cause her less damage so folks like you will think she is honest about everything when will all know why she won't admit to the most damage stuff even if it is true.

Quote from Alex_Murphy

I don't follow you. Do you expect of her to admit "the big stuff" even if she's innocent? You hate when people defend themselves against wrongful accusations and smear campaigns? I'm quite puzzled.

"Soojin were you a bully, in middle school?"

"No"

"Ok"

That's all she had to do. That's what most people who were innocent do. That's what everyone who was accused of bullying and didn't do it said.

And guess what? It worked. They don't have to go to court . They didn't have to go on hiatus and they weren't accused anymore.

This is what makes me angry at her, whether she is innocent or not.

I I don't care if she smoked, I don't care if she dress like a hooker when she was in middle school, I don't care if she cussed this person out. These are not important to main allegation of assault and theft.

She probably thinks that it makes her look more honest after all if she is admitting to this that means she would admit to that. Its manipulative and deflection.

Its also a lie, soojin already said she smoked and did other stuff but she still has her career.

But she knows, cube knows, her fans know, YOU know and i know that if she admitted to bullying, it would end it.

Do the courts in Korea not have anything better to do than deal with this kinda shit?

Anyway, I have many issues with this.

1.It took way too long to get this statement out and it took way too long for cube to file and they aren't even filing false allegations but for an investigation.

I don't understand why they keep acting like soojin innocent but she could be guilty so they're leaving that window open.

2.Court battles don't usually end well for the idols involved because of the power balance that's why most don't do it themselves

3.She is STILL doing that thing of admitting to small details but denying the big stuff. I hate when celebrities do that. Its manipulative.

Its her right to deal with this however she wishes and her company right to deal with this however they want to but again I must remind folks that there were tons of bullying scandals and all died except this one and now its grown to a full court battle and since the other girls have lawyers too. They probably prepare for it.

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Just get out of your little hole of Jealousy & try to learn & point out the actual problem.

"Racism & Xenophobia" should never be accepted in veil of jealousy.

If Grammy had no intention like this, they wouldn't have given only bts the entire solo ad of Grammy.

And before talking about viwership, hope you had researched about it. Army dumped the live after BTS's performance. The 1.2 million to 400K is not veiled by anyone.

Name a single white boy band that has a Grammy

Quote from Alex_Murphy

It seems they're specifically targeting the story about the informal school violence committee which was supposedly held against Soojin, because I guess it's something that can be checked and disproven.

I think it's confusing because as foreigners we constantly have to rely on translated, delayed sources to make sense of what's going on.

Then I was correct, there is a reason they aren't going after the main accuser.

Quote from thebadguy

Cube's statements:

"A one sided story from the alleged victims and that story is not true, we will legally refute that fact and any spread of false information" - Cube Ent

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Now I'm actually very confused. This allegation gets the hammer, not the other shit?!

Quote from trippin

yeah i wonder why too

the sisters dropped name , did the mocking or whatever it is on her live instagram and i heard there is death threat too

what more do they need to sue her?

yaeh people said that take legal action takes time and money

but dang , its your own idol bruh

makes me wonder if cube really do minimal effort as long its not soyeon,

just like back then with hyuna and 4min

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They don't even need all that in Korea. You can sue someone for telling the truth like dsp is doing

Here is the thing, its more likely she was probably a mean girl and pissed off a lot of people

But all of the accusers are fishy and not showing evidence to conclude anything. That said, cube isn't doing anything as far as we know and the reason most likely its these allegations are more true than they are fake.

Knetz as in the ones who wanted her gone ain't gonna admit they were wrong though so they will focus on the stuff that is true.

Quote from Alex_Murphy

Well, most defense comes from Pann just like most attacks against the idol came from Pann. Basically it's where everything is happening.

Now. Why didn't Cube officially address the latest developments? Nobody can tell. To be fair, the meet-up Soojin had with the sisters went basically nowhere so there was not much to address I guess. Maybe Cube are cooking something up. Who knows?

That's what I thought before they released the statement of sending soojin into indefinite hiatus.

Like I keep asking, why does nearly every defense for soojin come from pann and not from her company who put her on indefinite hiatus?

Something is weird about it, that livestream was days ago and cube have said nothing on it. Also that meeting soojin had with the sister wasn't reported by cube.

Quote from SeniorKpopper

hes been free from controversies for more than 10 years but suddenly hes surrounded by them lmao

Its really weird.

Quote from merribelle

The Grammys shit all over the Beatles as well.

See, this is why most folks talking are stupid, even that editor who probably leans a certain way.

Boy bands do not win these things. Backstreet boys who are whiter than snow, were nominated for 8 and won none.

Only one boy band has : boys 2 men who are black.

Its not a popularity contest, my goodness.

Of course the Grammys are corrupt, all award shows are corrupt but the only reason why you guys are mad is because you were used for clout, which everyone knew.

Now guess what, if bts ever do win, folks will question whether it was because they earned it or was it simply for diversity