Posts by Kreatin
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PAK and nevermind PAK hours is pretty much down to timing and luck depending on chart competition and releases. Of course you need a song that can sweep the charts to begin with, but a number of more or less random factors decides if it will get PAK and especially how many hours it will rack up.
PAK hours as a measure of comparision is also pretty much meaningless because of this and because of the fact how easy/hard it is to get have changed a number of times over the years. SM artists for example was banned from one of the included charts and could therefore not get PAK at all for first five years.
In the last years its actually become overall harder to get a PAK, but its much easier to get alot of hours once a song actually manages it. It used to be that getting over 10 hours of pak was an extreme rarity, just getting more than one hour was impressive. These days most songs that get PAK will do at least 100+hours .
In the first ten years of its existance (2010-2019), two or three songs in total got over 100 pak hours. Looking at the top 10 of most hours today, and every single song on it got their paks in 2020-2024
These days after the inclusion of youtube weekly (all other charts are daily) on instiz 2-3 years ago, the timing is even more important and with a few exceptions, its now extremly hard for any non idol artist to get PAK if they also dont have a flashy music video to go with the song.
Supernova could likely have challenged the top song when it comes to hours, but it was blocked by other new releases on youtube chart in the first few weeks.
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Yea you are right, could have sworn it never did but it topped melon daily for six days and also got a melon weekly the same week over a month after release. For the level of hit it one would expect it to have a couple of weeks at #1 at least, but it had a slower burn and some bad timing against new releases
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When Americans search for "IU," they are mostly looking for Illinois University.
Google trend algorithms is context aware by using its related search terms and what users click on etc. but Its not fail proof by any means and how it works changes from time to time.
A more reliable metric for the term IU in the us would be youtube searches.
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Did next level also get this? Is this song a bigger hit?
Next level actually never got #1 on any of the major charts. It just had crazy longevity in top 5/10.Nevermind, it actually topped melon for a week.
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i think what you meant Supernova
Ah yes, correct. I always mix names up, supernova it is ofc.
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* Supernova doing very well, only other new song this year that have managed roof hit on the old melon realtime chart besides LWA.
* I see people still conflating mma soty award with melon calendar year daily uls, its not the same thing. If supernova continues performing its very possible ut will get mma soty without getting #1 on yearly melon chart (which is very unlikely even with the higher ul numbers currently). Dynamite was brought up as comparision, it won the soty but because its late release was only #12 on the yearly melon chart.
You mean the song that have less time spent at #1, less paks and is now currently charting below lwa on the two biggest charts despite lwa being a month older?
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It's kind of crazy that Armaggedon did the double of How sweet in term of album stream on melon 😲😲😲
External Content twitter.comContent embedded from external sources will not be displayed without your consent.Through the activation of external content, you agree that personal data may be transferred to third party platforms. We have provided more information on this in our privacy policy.Well, theres 10 songs on the aespas album..
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Hard to judge by sunday drops, as all ul gaps get squished with the higher ranking songs losing the most, while saturday will have the absolute peak of uls for the week (specifically 16-17pm). But looking at the perfomance on other charts its does seem likely
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next level made a comeback in youtube music SK and is propably coming to get the #1 spot away from attention
External Content twitter.comContent embedded from external sources will not be displayed without your consent.Through the activation of external content, you agree that personal data may be transferred to third party platforms. We have provided more information on this in our privacy policy.Youtube longest charting songs is weird because they arbitrary remove songs from the chart depending on their own metrics after a "few months", so its not really a fair system with equal oppurtunity for songs to rank up weeks on.
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Is it chart manipulation because someone is being paid to process a program that continuously stream? What if there is a fan who have 10 computers/phones or laptops, and they stream the artist's songs on loop? Multiply that fan by the fandom amount, or if they rent out a PC bang and stream those songs all day, would that also considered manipulation?
Do we draw the line because there is money involved or because a program was used, or is it because the person is related to the artists (same company)?
Fandom streaming, using multiple devices etc is chart manipulation as well as the end result is the same regardless if a company pays a clickfarm for it or thousands of fans stream on five devices each 24/7: its outside of normal behavior and it ends up manipulating the charts. Fans tend to dislike saying it out loud tho and will argue against it as its somehow not manipulating the charts.
Now, one could still argue that one form of manipulation is worse than the other
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For melon yearly chart, im pretty certain plot twist is set for #1 now, fate likely to be #2 and LWA #3. Even with the general increase in uls and even if it continues to rise, i doubt any song released now can manage to overtake 3-4 months head start in accumulated uls that these songs have.
Bam yang gang will probably end up outside of top five, its currently at #6 and have now fallen behind LWA in 24h uls on melon. Doubtful if it can overcome To x or rhapsody of rain.
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It's not really fair to compare Sunmi or anyone really directly against IU when it comes to korean charts. For most metrics it will look very lopsided, even when comparing against some of the biggest acts..
IU/SUNMI
Circle chart songs at #1: 31/2 (bigbang in second place with 11 songs)
Circle chart weeks at #1: 64/3 (bts in second place with 24 weeks)
Circle chart months at #1: 16/0 (bigbang in second place with 9 months)
Perfect all kills(songs): 22/1 (bigbang in second place with 6 songs)
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Congrats, how much did it cost?
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It's a popularity poll, not a "I've heard of this person" poll.
its a survey asking people visiting korea what the top 3 artists that comes mind are, not who their single favourite artist is. So a bts fan might very well say bts, jungkoog and IU. A blackpink fan might say blackpink, iu and gdragon etc. And the older the person is the more likely they are to mention psy, gdragon or IU just because of how long they have been around.
And still, IU consistently ranks top 10 in most of these list be it surveys or direct data search data from youtube and google etc. That IU isnt known or not popular overseas havent been true since 2017.
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Its a yearly survery done by the korean tourism board every year on people arriving in korea, not kpop fans specifically and people answer with the top 3 artists that comes to mind. Not sure why people are surprised by the result, makes perfect sense imo. It also lines up pretty much with previous years result as well.
Theres a top list for every country included in the survey and a global one for all. The one in the op is for USA only.
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No need. This list has IU on it, therefore it is clearly fake.
IU is always on this survey and also ranks top 10 on youtube and google search consistently (globally), so not sure why thats surprising. Most people somewhat familiar with korean media be it music or dramas will have know of IU even they dont listen to her or know more than a song or two. Shes been active for 17 years, only gdragon and psy on this list have been going at it for longer.
