2021/2022 aespa, gidle, ive and stayc = 2016/2017 twice,rv,blackpink and gfriend (success wise?)

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Why are the twins getting paid dust while the rapper, the blonde, and Wonyoung and Yujin are scoring these big deals?

One of the twins will be on Dazed magazine with Yujin (apart from being too young atm I guess) and the other has been garnering in attention from kfans this comeback so I’m sure she’ll be getting sth as well soon

TWICE 2016/2017 Achievements

* 6 Number 1 GAON Songs for 2016 (2) and 2017 (4)

* Oricon Number 1 with Japan Debut (2017)

* Cheer Up topped the Annual Melon, GAON, Mnet..... etc Korean Charts

* 2 x MAMA SoTY Daesang, 1 x MMA, 1 x GDA

People just don't comprehend how big TWICE is in SK during their Rookie Years

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Just to add for Comparisons....

In 2016/2017 for GAON Number 1 Digital Songs

Gfriend had 2 in 2016

BP had 1 in 2016

Red Velvet had 1 in 2017

Mamamoo had 1 in 2016

For the 4th Gen....

G-Idle has 1 in 2022

Itzy should be in the conversation. they're written off far too easily

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It’s not like Winter and Karina are the main are aespa main attractors (Ningning is doing numbers but the gap still big. )

I don’t expect 4 rookies members to have the same popularity against two members which have been in the industry for years.

Wonyoung is the it girl of the group, and Yujin is quite popular she’s Versace global ambassador so yes the brand deal are here. Rei and Liz have a brand deal. And all the members (minus WY) will be on WKorea and Dazed this month.

Give them some time at least. BP didn’t suddenly bag big brands in 4 months.

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Ningning and Giselle still have relative popularity, though? Whether it's bad or not, many people still know them. Plus their fancam views while the gap with Karina and Winter is big, is still quite large when you context it to other group's solo fancams.

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I agree idk why y'all are overreacting when he never claimed aespa were as big as TWICE, we're only talking about the position they hold in each respective gen.

IVE rn seem like the closest group to end up being the "next BLACKPINK". Luxury solo brands, very quick rise to international fame, massive debut & follow-up, etc. Not to mention, just like BP, they debuted with a completely different concept\sound than what was the trend at the time & managed to make it work. I don't think they'll reach BP's actual level globally but hey idk

aespa I can see ending up having a TWICE-like career trajectory, biggest peak in 3rd\4th gen, kind of "local' to Asia until the latter part of their career, massive physical sales, consistent digitals, etc.

I only disagree with STAYC I think people are only comparing them with Gfriend because they're from small companies & do cute. STAYC are def looking to be more consistent hitmakers than GFRIEND who kinda fell off after Fingertip

And for GIDLE I think it's way too early to tell

I do think we should wait for YGNGG & lesserafim debuts though

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I think so too at least thus far.

The challenge now is for IVE to maintain the momentum.

No. A big fact that people forget that by 2016, most of popular 2nd gen ggs like girls generation, 2ne1, missa, f(x), 4minute, were almost at their end. Most of them have members leave the group. So Twice, blackpink, rv and also mamamoo were at the top from 2016. But in 2021, blackpink, rv, twice are all still active. Both situations are completely different.

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Itzy should be in the conversation. they're written off far too easily

Right! Itzy not only has domestic popularity, but in the global kpop fandom, they are one of the top ggs. Not to forget about nmixx! Their debut song wasn't well recieved but the group is very talented and with the right music they can easily become one on the top ggs.