I said this on twitter but the comments are really not surprising bc it is TheQoo so mostly the comments are from fans of other groups that are salivating over the thought of bangtan enlisting anyway.

It's not just fans of other groups though, if they are going to extend the duration of military service in the near future while also creating more special exemptions, there will be some bitter backlash from your average korean males who don't even follow any kpop groups.

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It's not just fans of other groups though, if they are going to extend the duration of military service in the near future while also creating more special exemptions, there will be some bitter backlash from your average korean males who don't even follow any kpop groups.

Yes I agree. Especially bc the new president has proposed on making the enlisting time back to 24 mos so these days the reception towards them getting exempted is poor. But as a fan I’ll just simply trust their choices tbh.

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Yes I agree. Especially bc the new president has proposed on making the enlisting time back to 24 mos so these days the reception towards them getting exempted is poor. But as a fan I’ll just simply trust their choices tbh.

I think BTS will do fine either way, even if they end up enlisting they have a massive fandom that will support them, and will be waiting for their return.

Imagine accepting an exemption after all those 'We're all going to enlist in the military when the time comes' preaching. The backlash is going to be HUGE.

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Imagine accepting an exemption after all those 'We're all going to enlist in the military when the time comes' preaching. The backlash is going to be HUGE.

Jin actually said "... will enlist when called upon" and not "will enlist when time comes". Also, he didn't preach to anyone, only answered the question he was asked.

Stop twisting his words, it isn't amusing.

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Jin actually said "... will enlist when called upon" and not "will enlist when time comes". Also, he didn't preach to anyone, only answered the question he was asked.

Stop twisting his words, it isn't amusing.

I'm not talking about Jin. I'm talking about Suga's lyrics, as netizens often use.

"Ooh, ooh, regarding military, we’ll enlist on our own when it’s time. Those bastards who used our names and tried to ride our coattails, to all shut up"

Also, Jin has said several times before that that he will fulfill his duty when the time comes when he is called. Either way, these words came out of their own mouths.

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I'm not talking about Jin. I'm talking about Suga's lyrics, as netizens often use.

"Ooh, ooh, regarding military, we’ll enlist on our own when it’s time. Those bastards who used our names and tried to ride our coattails, to all shut up"

Also, Jin has said several times before that that he will fulfill his duty when the time comes when he is called. Either way, these words came out of their own mouths.

The issue is Jin's enlistment as he is the first and he has officially said in interview that he would go when he is called.

You really using the lyrics from Suga's mixtape addressing how different companies are using BTS' names for their own benefit? Also, different translations:

Woo woo, we'll be sure to go to the military when it's time, so

All the bastards who tried to sell our name to freeload off us, shut up

And 'time' here can be any time, maybe even the time when they are called, like Jin said.

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The issue is Jin's enlistment as he is the first and he has officially said in interview that he would go when he is called.

You really using the lyrics from Suga's mixtape addressing how different companies are using BTS' names for their own benefit? Also, different translations:

Woo woo, we'll be sure to go to the military when it's time, so

All the bastards who tried to sell our name to freeload off us, shut up

And 'time' here can be any time, maybe even the time when they are called, like Jin said.

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Why are you acting like we're talking about something different? Did Jin say he will enlisting when he was called? Yes. Did Suga write lyrics about enlisting in the army when the time comes? Yes. I say netizens will always use these words against them, which they already do. I think it would have been much better if they had enlisted when the pandemic started. Now that the pandemic is almost over, other artists will start their concert tour, but Jin and Suga's deadlines are coming.

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Why are you acting like we're talking about something different? Did Jin say he will enlisting when he was called? Yes. Did Suga write lyrics about enlisting in the army when the time comes? Yes. I say netizens will always use these words against them, which they already do. I think it would have been much better if they had enlisted when the pandemic started. Now that the pandemic is almost over, other artists will start their concert tour, but Jin and Suga's deadlines are coming.

I am saying BTS members have always given nuanced, diplomatic answers when point blank asked about enlistment. Were the knetz expecting them to say "no, we will not enlist" or "yes, we will always enlist"? They never gave black and white answers, always open ended.

In the survey conducted by Dispatch more than 70 percent are in favor of granting them enlistment. If 'some' people are delibrately twisting their lyrics and answers and calling it preaching, then no one can do anything.

It's between Korean gov, BTS members, Hybe and Korean people. Whatever decision is taken, at the end, is of importance... not the emotions of certain knetz, yours or mine.

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I am saying BTS members have always given nuanced, diplomatic answers when point blank asked about enlistment. Were the knetz expecting them to say "no, we will not enlist" or "yes, we will always enlist"? They never gave black and white answers, always open ended.

In the survey conducted by Dispatch more than 70 percent are in favor of granting them enlistment. If 'some' people are delibrately twisting their lyrics and answers and calling it preaching, then no one can do anything.

It's between Korean gov, BTS members, Hybe and Korean people. Whatever decision is taken, at the end, is of importance... not the emotions of certain knetz, yours or mine.

I mean, that's what I said in my first message you quoted anyway. I think if they get an exemption, they will get a huge reaction and at the slightest scandal they will be get sarcastic remarks like 'Is this why you were exempted from military service?' This is not difficult to guess. They gave an answer, albeit politically, and yes, Suga preached about the military in his song, and now circled back to him. Period.

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I mean, that's what I said in my first message you quoted anyway. I think if they get an exemption, they will get a huge reaction and at the slightest scandal they will be get sarcastic remarks like 'Is this why you were exempted from military service?' This is not difficult to guess. They gave an answer, albeit politically, and yes, Suga preached about the military in his song, and now circled back to him. Period.

Just like certain knetz, you are attaching negative connotation to Suga simply getting fed up of the years of bullying BTS experienced at the hands of media, knetz, politicians and other kpop companies. "the time" and "when called" are all relative not absolute.

They are more knowledgable about their life and country. These fully grown men will make the decision that is the best for them. Like I said, they know it more than you and I.

You think BTS were preaching and going back on their word, I don't think so. You can't change my mind, neither I yours... so, peace and bye!

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They are not enlisting ㅋㅋㅋㅋ I can bet on it ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ Why did they keep on insisting that they would go all this time? ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ

3. They kept saying that they'd enlist so I really thought that they would

4. If they are saying with their mouth that they are going but aren't going, then what makes them different from Steve Yoo? (T/N: Public figure who evaded military enlistment. Yoo had repeatedly stated on television that he would fulfill his mandatory military service. But in 2002, just before he was to be drafted, he became a naturalized U.S. citizen - cr: wiki)

yeah... Hybe saying that shit will just make BTS look bad. Because the gp pay attention to these issues we know fans don't care they are entirely biased regardless what bts does. But this can have an impact on the members, if what hybe is saying is true. Because for many years the group has said they would serve end of discussion now suddenly they are going back on this? And having trouble planning their schedule? Most Koreans will see that as a weak excuse because " hey i served and planned just fine" or " hey every other popular) unpopular idol and celeb served just fine and planned, what makes you different?" These are the things people will say when they see hybe statement.

I know many fans want to knee jerk defend but sit down look at the big picture and think before you speak. Just like many tell others to stay in their lane, stay in yours about other people culture/country/religion. Because this is a KOREAN thing and many will look at this negatively even if they believe BTS deserves exemption if hybes statement about the members is accurate because a few unwritten rules of Korean culture are don't go back on your word and don't make an excuse for something. Its such a serious thing that people will even work while sick or apologize for it .

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I am saying BTS members have always given nuanced, diplomatic answers when point blank asked about enlistment. Were the knetz expecting them to say "no, we will not enlist" or "yes, we will always enlist"? They never gave black and white answers, always open ended.

In the survey conducted by Dispatch more than 70 percent are in favor of granting them enlistment. If 'some' people are delibrately twisting their lyrics and answers and calling it preaching, then no one can do anything.

It's between Korean gov, BTS members, Hybe and Korean people. Whatever decision is taken, at the end, is of importance... not the emotions of certain knetz, yours or mine.

Dispatch survey was about 1,000 people nowhere near representative of the majority here in Korea we are a country of over 55 million people. A survey of a few hundred thousand would have been a better gauge

I am praying for the best for BTS. I love them so much, I don’t want them to become pariahs in their own country🙏🙏

I truly believe BTS deserves this exemption but if it will only bring hate etc to them, just serve.

Hybe, chill and keep quiet!!