What is your most liberal/leftish opinion?

  • Alright lets turn this around on its head


    What is your letish opinion that will get you called commie by republicans?

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  • Alright my leftish opinion: Housing market should be freaking controlled fucking rn


    Any adult working full time even with min-wage should be able to afford their own place and have shelter security.

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  • 99% of my opinions


    - Universal Healthcare

    - Free education

    - Free access to water

    - Climate Change is real

    - LGBTQ+ rights

    - Pro-Choice

    - Medicaid benefits

    - Food stamps and other government assistance benefits

    - So much more.

    ~ ω


  • but which one you consider the most leftish one?

    Like the one that alot of liberals might not even agree with you?

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  • That sounds nice as an idea, but it can never be implemented fairly.

    How so?

    You can insure that basic housing prices does not exceed more than 10 years of min wages.


    You ban corporate mass buying of houses and foreign buyers. Put a tax on houses that are sitting empty so people cant buy them as investment and cause housing shortage.


    It can happen but it will ruffle some feathers

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  • but which one you consider the most leftish one?

    Like the one that alot of liberals might not even agree with you?

    Probably free water access as not a lot of liberals talk about that. I truly believe water should not be charged and should be free. It is the basis to all life so why the flying freakadoodle are we charging for the right to stay alive?

    ~ ω


  • Mega blocks should be a thing. like take four blocks and declare the streets in between pedestrian /biking only.


    Parking structures should only be underground. it makes no sense that perfectly normal useable land should be paved over with toxic, unproductive asphalt that destroys the air quality, and destroys the regional greenery.


    Nuclear power is a matter of national energy security. Yucca mountain should have passed long time ago.


    infrastructure is the veins, nerves, and lymphatic system of the nation. I don't care who does it, infrastucture is something you overinvest in to make sure your nation does not corrode from the foundation. The romans got it right. they put overkill amounts of strength into their roads and structures so it would stand the test of time. we can do the same can -wait for it- go LITERAL THOUSANDS OF YEARS WITHOUT MUCH MAINTENANCE LIKE THE ROMANS YA F****


    Civil defense should be as important as Homeland security. How about letting people actually have a shelter to protect themselves with ESPECIALLY THE FACT THAT THERE ARE STILL OPERATIONAL NUKES LIKE BRUHH be like the fucking swiss for once.


    also also national forests are essential for a nation. we are not just a nation of people we are a nation of land. and the other animals that grow on it. there should be more conservation. (also also not in the way like ohh lets let water out of the dam to protect the fish its more like engineeer the fuck out of it and make a fish bypass that safely transports the fish without releasing millions of gallons of precious water for the sake of the fish) we should invest more and not run it on like a super lean budget that means a normally three member crew of firewatch is reduced to one person for a whole sector.


    University research grants should be increased. CIRM alone took a few million in grants and made that into billions of increased gdp for california. I don't know what else kind of investment is that good.


    people should have two sections of tax, a small part should be directed by the taxpayer only. Ex: if I pay 100% tax, 50% is the normal tax, goes to the general budget but the other fifty percent I can divvy up to different things like education, police, conservation, defense, etc. Democratization of taxing should be a thing, people.


    I said it once but I'll say it again, infrastructure is key. Not just freight, air, freeways, pipelines and shit. Things like the NICS background check system should have its own automated infrastructure as well. Actually scratch that. there should be a watchdog organization for every organization.


    edit: HOUSING HOW CAN I FORGET

    so high density zoning should be a thing. one of the reasons there's so much homelessness is homeowners so selfish and lobby against High Density housing. and even low-high desity should be a thing, like duplexes, 3 stories, 4 story flatirons, house-over-stores, etc.

  • well there are already low income homes and apartments for exactly what you are saying. There is also section 8, in which the gov. gives you a living voucher.

    If the whole housing market was controlled than the quality of the houses will also go down. That is just fact.

  • Probably free water access as not a lot of liberals talk about that. I truly believe water should not be charged and should be free. It is the basis to all life so why the flying freakadoodle are we charging for the right to stay alive?

    So I have a question

    Do you purchase Nestlé products?


    Bc as a company Nestlé has bee trying to argue water is not a human right and companies should be able to have monopoly on water resources.


    Alot of people believe in water is human right but support companies that are working against that

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  • I'm pro euthanasia in the sense that I believe we should offer terminally ill people a way out and allow them to die with dignity instead of forcing them to go on living until their body completely gives out.

    As someone with a genetic condition it'd be very reassuring for me to know that there's a way out once I feel like it's getting too much. Instead I feel a lot of anxiety on the daily because I know I'm going to be made to suffer until all my organs fail.

  • well there are already low income homes and apartments for exactly what you are saying. There is also section 8, in which the gov. gives you a living voucher.

    If the whole housing market was controlled than the quality of the houses will also go down. That is just fact.

    Those are very limited and not available to everyone

    definitely not available to people working full time or young professionals


    Why would you think that decreases quality of housing?


    the price of housing is going up bc people are hoarding it as investment not bc it's quality is going up

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  • Trust me, I got kicked out at 16, and I made it happen for myself. Life is hard. If we let the gov. control things such as what you are saying, it will ruin the market and quality of life.

  • Trust me, I got kicked out at 16, and I made it happen for myself. Life is hard. If we let the gov. control things such as what you are saying, it will ruin the market and quality of life.

    Im sorry for what happened to you but I don't belive in trust me bros arguments


    Governments should insure basics are available and affordable to everyone and butt out of the rest.


    It's not like private entities and companies have our best interests in their mind.

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  • Im sorry for what happened to you but I don't belive in trust me bros arguments


    Governments should insure basics are available and affordable to everyone and butt out of the rest.


    It's not like private entities and companies have our best interests in their mind.

    I would rather live in a country where I can move up in my wealth bracket then a country that controls quality of life for myself and everyone. A free country is better than anything you can argue for pro control over housing.


    It more sounds like you have a problem with capitalism. Which I have zero problem with. Because without it, there is no drive to do better. There is no opportunity to grasp or reach to. There are always downsides, but the possibilities are endless.

  • The right to clean air water and land should be legally enforced. (inspiration from Pikachu-Senpai btw I loveya lia DP!)


    Any company that has proven air, water, or land pollution should be fined accordingly. No effective efforts to clean up after being warned should be charged and tried as malicious poisoning of all affected. If the company dissolved or broke up, shareholders and owners have liability. That albatross shall stay with them until they do something about it.


    If another company cleans up for the company or owners of the former company, all expenses recorded can be registered by the governement and the debt would be written up to the company/ owners that did the pollution. but then again, a federal inspector with no ties, not even a little to the situation should verify that all expenses are genuine.


    The government should try to make manufacturing and production profitable in their home soil. how that'd work is very complex but I think this should be the case.

  • Yeah no I try to avoid Nestle products which is what got me into the free water argument in the first place. Now of course I'm sure some of the products I buy are connected with Nestle but I try to avoid buying Nestle products that I know of like their coffee products.

    ~ ω


  • I think your 2nd opinion is more conservative

    liberals are the ones who exported most of manufacturing

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  • Roses are red,
    Violets are blue,
    Your Instagram’s private,
    So your Facebook will do.

    Lol?

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  • I would rather live in a country where I can move up in my wealth bracket then a country that controls quality of life for myself and everyone. A free country is better than anything you can argue for pro control over housing.


    It more sounds like you have a problem with capitalism. Which I have zero problem with. Because without it, there is no drive to do better. There is no opportunity to grasp or reach to. There are always downsides, but the possibilities are endless.

    I don't have a problem with capitalism or people moving up the wealth ladder

    I just think basics such as food, water, shelter need to be taken out of the equations.


    Go ham on other stuff just don't hoard basics to the point society feels desperate and trapped

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  • I think your 2nd opinion is more conservative

    liberals are the ones who exported most of manufacturing

    I- hmm.


    I thought that subsidizing or using tariffs to create a safe economic zone for companies was a liberal type policy.

    although I guess the conservatives would argue that self sufficiency is a priority as a economy and that the liberals would like a sort of globalized economy.

  • I- hmm.


    I thought that subsidizing or using tariffs to create a safe economic zone for companies was a liberal type policy.

    although I guess the conservatives would argue that self sufficiency is a priority as a economy and that the liberals would like a sort of globalized economy.

    Conservatives are usually the ones putting tariff on foreign goods to prioritize self produced stuff

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  • I would rather live in a country where I can move up in my wealth bracket then a country that controls quality of life for myself and everyone. A free country is better than anything you can argue for pro control over housing.


    It more sounds like you have a problem with capitalism. Which I have zero problem with. Because without it, there is no drive to do better. There is no opportunity to grasp or reach to. There are always downsides, but the possibilities are endless.

    actually housing has been a contentious issue


    large private equity firms have been hot-buying houses to the point of harrassing people out of their own houses to buy it.


    then that gets held and then a once american dream of buying a house for financial stability becomes a renter's purgatory. there is no way that a single home buyer is going to be able to compete with 200% asking price.


    if this goes unregulated, there would be a shortage of houses able to sell and buy and even houses would be just renter flats. no owned property for anyone. (except for the large private equity firms btw)


    I think that this kind of monopoly buying should be regulated.

  • I don't have a problem with capitalism or people moving up the wealth ladder

    I just think basics such as food, water, shelter need to be taken out of the equations.


    Go ham on other stuff just don't hoard basics to the point society feels desperate and trapped

    What you are saying sounds really nice and like a perfect life. But if someone can own a nice house doing a min. wage career for all their life.....then why would people ever strive to be a lawyer? Or a surgeon? Etc. Housing is the way it is because of capitalism. If you give control of that to the government than what would give people drive to do more? Or have bigger goals? And if that control is given to them, then it is more likely more things will also be given. Like vehicles, phones.....anything that people think that is necessary to live comfortably.

    My husband and I live in California, so I totally know and understand your viewpoint and I also think it is really crappy. But the alternative is worse in my opinion. I guess we can agree to disagree, and that is completely fine. I am actually glad to have a discussion like this with someone and actually have a conversation.

  • What you are saying sounds really nice and like a perfect life. But if someone can own a nice house doing a min. wage career for all their life.....then why would people ever strive to be a lawyer? Or a surgeon? Etc. Housing is the way it is because of capitalism. If you give control of that to the government than what would give people drive to do more? Or have bigger goals? And if that control is given to them, then it is more likely more things will also be given. Like vehicles, phones.....anything that people think that is necessary to live comfortably.

    My husband and I live in California, so I totally know and understand your viewpoint and I also think it is really crappy. But the alternative is worse in my opinion. I guess we can agree to disagree, and that is completely fine. I am actually glad to have a discussion like this with someone and actually have a conversation.

    I didnt say everyone deserve a nice house

    but maybe a place they can sleep, cook a meal and take a shower


    even studio apartments are out of people's range now


    Also look at it this way, if people cant have anything with min wage anyway, whats stopping them from just quitting and collecting welfare? At the end of the day we still need people who DO the min wage jobs

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  • I am not saying people with min wage jobs can't have anything. That is not true at all and completely not what I said. Housing cost also takes into account the area of where it is. Can't have just a flat rate for houses, it just wouldn't work. There are a lot of elements that need to be taken in account. If you are arguing for investors to have a limited amount of investment homes, that is not something I am arguing. But to give control of market value to the government is not something I can stand behind. No way.

  • That everyone deserves to be treated with the utmost respect, regardless of how they identify. Straight, asexual, lesbian, bi, gay, trans, who cares? I was taught to treat everyone the way you want to be treated and even though I fall short sometimes, I do try. I think no one should be treated as any less of a person for something that they have no control over. Same goes for race, just don't be a racist. On a similar note, we also shouldn't shame homeless people. Yes, some of them made poor choices, but who hasn't? Besides, some of them are homeless due to circumstances out of their control. Have a great day/night!

  • Actually I would think that there should be a thing like the "Office of deflation"


    that sets a quota for the max number of dollars able to be destroyed.


    then citizens can donate dollars to be deleted.


    its going to be very unpopular but I see it as a way to deflate money in bull market times without resorting to negative interest rate.


  • If Viagra is covered by insurance companies then they should cover birth control as well.

    Viagra for the most part is not covered, while birth control pretty much always is.

  • Viagra, the name brand, isn't covered. But other generic versions of it is.

    Still applies. It's rarely covered. And if it is, the copays are ridiculous and the ins place heavy quantity limits and fill restrictions.


    And birth control is covered 100% by pretty much all insurance plans anyways.

  • indeed :-)

    the liberal opinions have been too tame lmao


    like people say they are pro-choice

    but how much pro-choice?


    pro-choice if there is harm to mother? pro-choice for the first 5 month or pro-choice till the day before due date?


    everyone is being too general

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  • well this forum is liberal anyways so you can probably guess heh

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