I'm not a fan of either txt or enhypen but I see people here and on twt bashing them 24/7 for having Hybe previlage and I'm in no way denying the previlage but do other groups have no previlage? Nct is the junior of exo, tvqx and snsd while itzy had huge predebut hybe due to twice.
Even stan twt's favourite fromis now a days is getting so much hate due to their association with hybe.
i see you chose to pretend NCT didn't spend the whole 6 years of their existence recieving insane hate for merely existing and Aespa didn't literally get the lowest melon rating for their debut song because of the insane hate they were receiving. both groups have had the privilege card thrown at them almost every day they existed in the industry, hybe stans have always been at the forefront of people using the privilege card agains big3 groups, but you chose to pretend none of this happened i guess.
Because hybe has the biggest 4th generation groups. Fans of groups who have been surpassed by them/groups who were never as big as them are bitter. To make themselves feel better, they come up with all the different excuses to discredit those two groups' achievements. It only shows how insecure and afraid people actually are
i see you chose to pretend NCT didn't spend the whole 6 years of their existence recieving insane hate for merely existing and Aespa didn't literally get the lowest melon rating for their debut song because of the insane hate they were receiving. both groups have had the privilege card thrown at them almost every day they existed in the industry, hybe stans have always been at the forefront of people using the privilege card agains big3 groups, but you chose to pretend none of this happened i guess.
Aespa got hate and were boycotted due to the plagiarism issues which occured during their debut, not because of their privilege. Meanwhile nct gets hate due to their music
itzy, aespa and stray kids are also dragged constantly
it’s simple- jealousy due to their high physical sales & spotify streams that they want their idols to have!
it’s hard for them to throw hate on bts without being ratioed so they are dragging the “ brothers”
This is the karma armys brought on to HYBE groups. They loved to push the small company agenda to discredit Big3 groups and so their fans are returning the favor for HYBE groups. Just like how armys this it’s ok to hate on NCT because of their fights with exo fans. Big3 privilege was weaponized for years by armys over and over again where were you then. Now it’s time for HYBE groups to face the same that armys did to the rest of kpop.
This is the karma armys brought on to HYBE groups. They loved to push the small company agenda to discredit Big3 groups and so their fans are returning the favor for HYBE groups. Just like how armys this it’s ok to hate on NCT because of their fights with exo fans. Big3 privilege was weaponized for years by armys over and over again where were you then. Now it’s time for HYBE groups to face the same that armys did to the rest of kpop.
Oh no as if the poor innocent big 3 stans weren't acting superior before and discrediting BTS just being they were threatening their faves on the charts. I've had my fair share of laughing at them after BTS rose to fame. Oh how the tables turned. 
this is invalid point because fandoms and groups which didn't even exist back then shouldn't be blamed due to armys or whatsoever. Not to mention that big3 stans were always the first ones to put bts down because they were coming from a small nugu company so they weren't the saints you consider them to be either.
And most of the hate txt and enhypen get is because of their horrible encores so
Encores hate compared to all the reasons behind the hate aespa gets, I rather my faves get dragged for silly encores than for the stuff aespa gets dragged for.
This is the karma armys brought on to HYBE groups. They loved to push the small company agenda to discredit Big3 groups and so their fans are returning the favor for HYBE groups. Just like how armys this it’s ok to hate on NCT because of their fights with exo fans. Big3 privilege was weaponized for years by armys over and over again where were you then. Now it’s time for HYBE groups to face the same that armys did to the rest of kpop.
Ohhh I get it now. Big3 stans are bitter but since they are scared to hate on bts (which would result in them getting a crazy ratio and people dragging their faves), they proceed to hate on any group related to bts. Quite pathetic if you'd ask me but what can I expect from kpop stans?
this is invalid point because fandoms and groups which didn't even exist back then shouldn't be blamed due to armys or whatsoever. Not to mention that big3 stans were always the first ones to put bts down because they were coming from a small nugu company so they weren't the saints you consider them to be either.
If armys can hate on nct because of exo there is no reason txt and enhypen won't suffer because of armys.
Non big 3 stans hate them because they think those guys don't deserve the privilege. None of the members of enhypen and txt are known because of the talent but their success and music made by producers. So non big 3 stans feel their faves who are more talented should be getting that privilege.
Big 3 stans hate them because of bts. Big 3 stans don't like bts because bts were the first idol group not from big 3 to lead k-pop. They always wanted only big 3 group to be at the top of k-pop, bts changed that so they hate them. They do not like armys because armys used privilege card against them. They cannot hate on bts anymore so they hate on their brother groups.
this is invalid point because fandoms and groups which didn't even exist back then shouldn't be blamed due to armys or whatsoever. Not to mention that big3 stans were always the first ones to put bts down because they were coming from a small nugu company so they weren't the saints you consider them to be either.
Encores hate compared to all the reasons behind the hate aespa gets, I rather my faves get dragged for silly encores than for the stuff aespa gets dragged for.
Ohhh I get it now. Big3 stans are bitter but since they are scared to hate on bts (which would result in them getting a crazy ratio and people dragging their faves), they proceed to hate on any group related to bts. Quite pathetic if you'd ask me but what can I expect from kpop stans?
Less pathetic than HYBE stans who preached so much about hating companies and now licking HYBE’s feet. In the end all kpop stans are the same including HYBE stans and that irony will never not be funny.
This is the karma armys brought on to HYBE groups. They loved to push the small company agenda to discredit Big3 groups and so their fans are returning the favor for HYBE groups. Just like how armys this it’s ok to hate on NCT because of their fights with exo fans. Big3 privilege was weaponized for years by armys over and over again where were you then. Now it’s time for HYBE groups to face the same that armys did to the rest of kpop.
What armys did or do have nothing to do with txt or enhypen. I cannot believe you're justifying it.
So your mindset is "I'll hate on innocent bunch of people because someone else, unrelated to them, hated on my faves"? If you say in real life the same thing you say here, you'll be considered crazy. One wrong doing doesn't excuse another, especially when people who don't deserve hate are getting it.
No, they will never be less pathetic because they are the ones who began it all. If people weren't so bitter about bts succeeding it wouldn't have reached this point. Y'all can drag companies and company stans all you want, I couldn't care less. The problem comes when you drag innocent groups. It's very low and it goes about big3 stans, armys,everyone
Non big 3 stans hate them because they think those guys don't deserve the privilege. None of the members of enhypen and txt are known because of the talent but their success and music made by producers. So non big 3 stans feel their faves who are more talented should be getting that privilege.
Big 3 stans hate them because of bts. Big 3 stans don't like bts because bts were the first idol group not from big 3 to lead k-pop. They always wanted only big 3 group to be at the top of k-pop, bts changed that so they hate them. They do not like armys because armys used privilege card against them. They cannot hate on bts anymore so they hate on their brother groups.
If those non big3 groups were more talented than enhypen&txt they would have been bigger than them just like bts surpassed everyone. There is a reason why most of them are such nugus
i see you chose to pretend NCT didn't spend the whole 6 years of their existence recieving insane hate for merely existing and Aespa didn't literally get the lowest melon rating for their debut song because of the insane hate they were receiving. both groups have had the privilege card thrown at them almost every day they existed in the industry, hybe stans have always been at the forefront of people using the privilege card agains big3 groups, but you chose to pretend none of this happened i guess.
I've been following nct since debut, I don't remember them getting this much bullying or hate. Exols around me used to hype them and armys weren't that toxic. GG stans weren't loud kpop stans used to praised them.
Encores hate compared to all the reasons behind the hate aespa gets, I rather my faves get dragged for silly encores than for the stuff aespa gets dragged for.
First of all, txt and enhypen lipsynch most of the time too, so your pride and arrogance are misplaced and laughable.
Second, my point flew over your head. It seems to some of you like only txt and enhypen are getting hate because people like you either pretend they don't see the hate other groups receive or dismiss it as justified. All I did in my first post was to point out the hate NCT and Aespa received throughout their whole careers, but you went straight ahead and started justifying the hate Aespa get as if it's reasonable to hate them for things out of their control (like the plagiarism accusations) and justifying the hate NCT get for something as subjective as music taste. Then I merely showed you that if we're going to do it your way then even the hate txt and enhypen receive can be justified in the same manner you were doing to Aespa and NCT.
And to address one of your other points, it's utterly ridiculous to claim the privilege card wasn't used against big 3 groups to the same extent if not much worse than either txt or enhypen. If you want to blame anyone then blame Armys for stigmatising debuting under a big company and propagating the whole big company privilege and undeserved success narrative. There were times when fans of big3 groups were not allowed to even celebrate their faves achievements or feel happy for their success because of Armys in particular shoving the privilege argument down our throat, and now you and your fellow hybe stans are trying to convince us and yourselves that our faves didn't suffer from the same shit your faves are facing now.
And this is what i dont get. Really? Who are they to say the hybe boys have no talent ? Yeah, I will agree that probably some groups are more talented overall but to say that they are mediocres or talentless are just plain jealous. Fans complaining that their idols should be more famous because they are more talented do not understand a thing about fame. It’s not all about pure talent, there are far more talented artists that never made it on top or did not even debut simply because they dont have the “ It” factor or charm to pull a lot of fans to support them or even casual fans. There is also what we call, “ marketability” , can this idol sell a lot?
And also just because they dont produce their own music now, it doesnt mean they cant in the future. And just because u produce music it doesnt mean it will sell. It’s completely useless if no one listens to it. Let’s face it, it matters a lot who sings the song — who markets or sells it regardless if he/she is the one who created or produced it. Most fans don’t care — those are the fans that buy a lot. Those extremely critical pretentious fans who think too higly of their music taste wont probably spend much on anything .
Non big 3 stans hate them because they think those guys don't deserve the privilege. None of the members of enhypen and txt are known because of the talent but their success and music made by producers. So non big 3 stans feel their faves who are more talented should be getting that privilege.
Big 3 stans hate them because of bts. Big 3 stans don't like bts because bts were the first idol group not from big 3 to lead k-pop. They always wanted only big 3 group to be at the top of k-pop, bts changed that so they hate them. They do not like armys because armys used privilege card against them. They cannot hate on bts anymore so they hate on their brother groups.b
And I have seen them get ridiculous, disproportionate amounts of hate all throughout their career, from drags because of their sm privilege, to mockery because of their concept, to people calling them a failure for half a decade, to targeted harassment and abuse against certain members, to calling their music noise and construction music, to calling their fans visual and photocard stans and telling them they suffer from Stockholm syndrome for stanning NCT, to sajeigi accusations and spreading ridiculous and false plagiarism rumours about them. Nct can't go outside and breath some fresh air without Armys somehow spinning it into a plagiarism incident. Just a couple of months ago twitter Armys trended #disbandNCT worldwide because of some stupid shit an nctzen did.
On the other hand, I never saw this huge hate you say txt and enhypen receive, most of the time I see people praise their music. The only negative feedback I saw was about their encore stages and that wasn't even comparable to the kind of shit groups like Twice receive. Heck, aespa got more hate for their disappointing mama stage than both txt and enhypen got for any encore stage with horrible singing. So I guess it's a matter of perspective and what you're looking at exactly. You're bound to be more aware of the hate your faves get than that of groups you don't stan, unless it's too much to be missed and that's apparently not the case with these hybe groups since I keep missing it despite being active in several kpop social media platforms.
But Army’s pointing that big 3 privilege are justified since they rose from below . But big 3 stans pulling the privilege cards to Enhypen and Txt are hypocrites because they have the same privilege. They have no right to bring it up coz their faves have the same big 3 privilege. See the difference?
First of all, txt and enhypen lipsynch most of the time too, so your pride and arrogance are misplaced and laughable.
Second, my point flew over your head. It seems to some of you like only txt and enhypen are getting hate because people like you either pretend they don't see the hate other groups receive or dismiss it as justified. All I did in my first post was to point out the hate NCT and Aespa received throughout their whole careers, but you went straight ahead and started justifying the hate Aespa get as if it's reasonable to hate them for things out of their control (like the plagiarism accusations) and justifying the hate NCT get for something as subjective as music taste. Then I merely showed you that if we're going to do it your way then even the hate txt and enhypen receive can be justified in the same manner you were doing to Aespa and NCT.
And to address one of your other points, it's utterly ridiculous to claim the privilege card wasn't used against big 3 groups to the same extent if not much worse than either txt or enhypen. If you want to blame anyone then blame Armys for stigmatising debuting under a big company and propagating the whole big company privilege and undeserved success narrative. There were times when fans of big3 groups were not allowed to even celebrate their favesi achievements or feel happy for their success because of Armys in particular shoving the privilege argument down our throat, and now you and your fellow hybe stans are trying to convince us and yourselves that our faves didn't suffer from the same shit your faves are facing now.
And I have seen them get ridiculous, disproportionate amounts of hate all throughout their career, from drags because of their sm privilege, to mockery because of their concept, to people calling them a failure for half a decade, to targeted harassment and abuse against certain members, to calling their music noise and construction music, to calling their fans visual and photocard stans and telling them they suffer from Stockholm syndrome for stanning NCT, to sajeigi accusations and spreading ridiculous and false plagiarism rumours about them. Nct can't go outside and breath some fresh air without Armys somehow spinning it into a plagiarism incident. Just a couple of months ago twitter Armys trended #disbandNCT worldwide because of some stupid shit an nctzen did.
On the other hand, I never saw this huge hate you say txt and enhypen receive, most of the time I see people praise their music. The only negative feedback I saw was about their encore stages and that wasn't even comparable to the kind of shit groups like Twice receive. Heck, aespa got more hate for their disappointing mama stage than both txt and enhypen got for any encore stage with horrible singing. So I guess it's a matter of perspective and what you're looking at exactly. You're bound to be more aware of the hate your faves get than that of groups you don't stan, unless it's too much to be missed and that's apparently not the case with these hybe groups since I keep missing it despite being active in several kpop social media platforms.
U can make your own nct hate bandwagon thread but this is about txt. This is not the oppression olympics we're not gonna sit here and compare who gets hate and who doesn't and who's is more "vaild". If u think they don't get hate, that's on u just ignore the thread. Thank you
as if aespa does not lipsynch most of the time despite not having heavy choreo. 😂
First of all, txt and enhypen lipsynch most of the time too, so your pride and arrogance are misplaced and laughable.
Second, my point flew over your head. It seems to some of you like only txt and enhypen are getting hate because people like you either pretend they don't see the hate other groups receive or dismiss it as justified. All I did in my first post was to point out the hate NCT and Aespa received throughout their whole careers, but you went straight ahead and started justifying the hate Aespa get as if it's reasonable to hate them for things out of their control (like the plagiarism accusations) and justifying the hate NCT get for something as subjective as music taste. Then I merely showed you that if we're going to do it your way then even the hate txt and enhypen receive can be justified in the same manner you were doing to Aespa and NCT.
And to address one of your other points, it's utterly ridiculous to claim the privilege card wasn't used against big 3 groups to the same extent if not much worse than either txt or enhypen. If you want to blame anyone then blame Armys for stigmatising debuting under a big company and propagating the whole big company privilege and undeserved success narrative. There were times when fans of big3 groups were not allowed to even celebrate their faves achievements or feel happy for their success because of Armys in particular shoving the privilege argument down our throat, and now you and your fellow hybe stans are trying to convince us and yourselves that our faves didn't suffer from the same shit your faves are facing now.
But Army’s pointing that big 3 privilege are justified since they rose from below . But big 3 stans pulling the privilege cards to Enhypen and Txt are hypocrites because they have the same privilege. They have no right to bring it up coz their faves have the same big 3 privilege. See the difference?
But the thing is I don't see big3 stans drag txt and enhypen for their big company privilege, they mostly just call out those army who turned into hybe stans for their hypocrisy and for not using the same privilege argument against hybe groups.
Blackpink alone get more bashing for big3 privilege in a weeks than both txt and enhypen got combined in their whole careers.
oh please. they are waiting for them to make a mistake. encores are supoosed to be fun but some are using it like it’s an audition. And Enhypen’s last encores in recent comeback are quite good so u dont hear any bashing but people keep bringing up the past. They have nothing to drag them down .. As if idols cant get better and they are so stuck in the past.
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