(UPDATE) a lovely example of casual sexism: Taylor Swift and Damon Albarn

great power comes great responsibility. mans demonstrated that he had no responsibility in that regard.

What pissed me off is that the interviewer didn't push back on the factually incorrect "co-write" bullshit, when Damon misunderstood "of course she writes her own stuff [but] she co-writes some".

I don't understand what masculinity has to do with it though. Dude praised Billie Eilish in the same interview.

i am or at least was a big fan of taylor Swift and especially her lyrics

The critic is an idiot

But what does female male have anything to do with this?

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bold of him to assume we know who the fuck he is. but even worse to make claims like this and then get slammed by a critically acclaimed #1 artist.

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the ratio omfg

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just shows that people on ANY platform have the ability to be toxic, rude, and repulsive when taking down successful female artists. the discrediting of female artists, especially Taylor, is getting so old, even on here. a little off topic: this applies to any female artist- it will never not be so embarrassing and dumb when people act like they're vocal coaches/experts and use that to start bashing. you're not. you're an asshole behind a computer with horrible morale.

back on topic, i'm glad she stood her ground, it really is something when people speak on a topic they know nothing about.

also him getting dragged to filth is fucking hilarious.

observe:

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i even found some fellow bangswifties lurking!

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in her wise words:

"At that time I couldn’t understand why this wave of harsh criticism had hit me so hard. I believe a popular headline back then was, ‘A Swift Backlash,’ which is clever, you gotta give it to ’em. And now I realize that this is just what happens to a woman in music if she achieves success or power beyond people’s comfort level. I now have come to expect that with good news comes some sort of pushback. But I didn’t know that then.

So then I decided that I would be the only songwriter on my third album, Speak Now, and that I would tour constantly, work on my vocals every day, and perfect my stamina in a live show. I decided I would be what they said I couldn’t be. I didn’t know then that soon enough people would decide on something else I wasn’t quite doing right, and then the circle would keep going on and on and rolling along and I would keep accommodating, over-correcting, in an effort to appease my critics."

oh and let's not forget:

"Yet to this day none of these investors have ever bothered to contact me or my team directly. To perform their due diligence on their investment. On their investment in me. To ask how I might feel about the new owner of my art. The music I wrote. The videos I created. Photos of me, my handwriting, my album designs. And of course, Scooter never contacted me or my team to discuss it prior to the sale or even when it was announced.

I’m fairly certain he knew exactly how I would feel about it though. And let me just say that the definition of the toxic male privilege in our industry is people saying, ‘But he’s always been nice to me,’ when I’m raising valid concerns about artists and their rights to own their music. And of course he’s nice to you. If you’re in this room, you have something he needs."

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full speech

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grown adults are out here stuck in 2016. smh.

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my god, how can you say Taylor Swift, freaking TAYLOR SWIFT who is KNOWN to WRITE HER OWN SONGS doesn't write her own songs.

I am not even a swiftie but I am mad.

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you do realize you can "praise" a woman and still exhibit toxic masculinity, right?

he not only pit two successful women against each other, but spread lies and misinformation about one of them.

here, i'll rephrase the title to make it more understandable.

Anyone can spread lies and misinformation about anything. I don't see how it's a gender thing. And comparing two artists based on one's subjective preferrences is not "pitting someone against someone else". It's just discussion. You talk about movies, you gonna talk about filmmakers you like and, one thing leading to another, those you think are overrated. Same in music or anything really. It's just discussing, exchanging opinions. People are free to disagree, it's no big deal. Again, I don't see how it's casual sexism any more than toxic masculinity. Maybe he is all that, but I doubt a short tweet from LA Times is enough to come to that conclusion.

[edit] I forgot to add: of course, sometimes people have stupid takes on things and are just wrong.

Anyway, I don't even who this guys is so I'm gonna leave it at that. Thank you for your attention, I didn't mean to bother.

What a douche

Also Taylor

I can't help but hate men sometimes

He sounds like he has been living under a rock with the "she doesn't write her own songs".

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the way i, and many others look at it, is this:

and it holds true. this guy praising Billie doesn't make him less misogynistic.

here's a brief history into past comments he's made:

first of all, this

https://damonalbarn.tumblr.com…t-from-which-albarn-is-so

and then someone went on a sexist rant about him (lmao)

http://www.supajam.com/news/st…t-rant-about-Damon-Albarn

and then this

https://www.huffingtonpost.co.…mon-albarn_n_8461226.html

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I don't know who tf he is or what he said about billie either

It's just weird as hell to me that legit everything is blamed on 'male bad' out of context

You think men don't bash the shit out of male artists or what?

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He sounds like he has been living under a rock with the "she doesn't write her own songs".

He doesn't know shit about her, which is fine, but he chose to open his mouth in an interview about it. To the point of correcting the interviewer.

Which is a total...

Well, I'm not gonna say it.

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Anyone can spread lies and misinformation about anything. I don't see how it's a gender thing. And comparing two artists based on one's subjective preferrences is not "pitting someone against someone else". It's just discussion. You talk about movies, you gonna talk about filmmakers you like and, one thing leading to another, those you think are overrated. Same in music or anything really. It's just discussing, exchanging opinions. People are free to disagree, it's no big deal. Again, I don't see how it's casual sexism any more than toxic masculinity. Maybe he is all that, but I doubt a short tweet from LA Times is enough to come to that conclusion.

[edit] I forgot to add: of course, sometimes people have stupid takes on things and are just wrong.

Anyway, I don't even who this guys is so I'm gonna leave it at that. Thank you for your attention, I didn't mean to bother.

It's a gender thing because nobody will accuse Ed Sheeran of not writing his own songs. When he has been far more reliant on co-writes than Taylor Swift has been.

Like just for example.

Gosh I wonder why.

And yes, pitting women against each other is, like.. A very classic move. That's Damon playing the standards. Billie is not like the other girls, etc.

The comparison is bullshit straight up because Billie is not remotely like Taylor to warrant the comparison. But by virtue of being the same gender, the comparison happens. I see this shit all the time.

lmao good to see taylor swift called it out, dude got his 15 minutes of fame cause I had never heard of him before this (that is probably what he wanted anyways)

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men bash male artists but it just isn't seen as often. and it would be ignorant to say that the industry isn't biased against women because it is.

Weak argument about why this is a man vs woman issue not a dumb critic vs taylor swift issue

Regardless, feel free to see multiple agendas in this, I just expressed my thoughts