Are bands being held at a higher standard than typical KPOP idol groups?

no because bands are expected to write their own music... it's kinda what comes with being in a band. when you are a pop artist in our society you are expected to be a performer and not an artist.

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it's not so much of a higher standard... more of a different standard because they have different jobs at the core of it.

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it's not so much of a higher standard... more of a different standard because they have different jobs at the core of it.

Such a simple concept. It's like common sense.

Yes, especially for people who listen to bands outside of K-Pop. There are different expectations from involvement in the creative process to overall musicality.

"Lack-singing" or rapping is more "acceptable" if you are attractive. Imagine not being able to hold a "pocket" as a drummer, but you just look really good banging around on a set.

It is weird when you think about it. Idols are considered performers and entertainers since they spend all their time learning to sing and dance. But wouldn't band members also be considered performers and entertainers since they sing and play instruments. Why the extra expectation of writing music for bands?

The irony is that bands in general are just creatively superior to almost all pop acts or groups. Some of the mustiest looking dudes you would ever find who looked like they hadnt showered in a week were talented enough to write some of the greatest hits and even classics of modern pop, rock, and metal music.

It's part of the whole infantalising of kpop idols from the fandom.

That anything they ever do outside of singing and dancing well and looking good is this overwhelming achievement.

"OMG SONGWWRITER XXXXX SUCH DEEP LYRICS SO TALENTED"

"OMG CHEF XXXXX SUCH GREAT PACKET RAMYUN MAKING SKILLS"

"OMG ARTIST XXXXX SUCH AMAZING DRAWING"

"OMG DOOROPENER XXXXX SUCH BEAUTIFUL DOOR OPENING"

It's the standard that has been set by rock bands since the 60s. They write, record and play their own songs. The same standard hasn't been set by pop groups.

I guess? I wouldn't say it's higher, more different though. Idols are expected to be performers, bands are expected to be artists