If Melon chart reform will mess Oh My Girl chances for double-record I will send truck to Kakao M

  • don't you even dare to mess with Oh My Girl chances for double-record you :melon_think: heads


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  • i feel like Nonstop might be affected of this reform. Dolphin will probably hold for a bit.


    Why will nonstop be affected? I am still not understanding this system other than the fact new releases will benefit from it? The 50% 24 hits uls + 50% realtime uls aren't making sense to me?

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  • The only reason that record is being beaten after nearly 5 years is because of the initial chart change that has massively skewed longevity of hit songs.

  • Why will nonstop be affected? I am still not understanding this system other than the fact new releases will benefit from it? The 50% 24 hits uls + 50% realtime uls aren't making sense to me?

    Just my assumption, old songs in the lower spectrum of the chart might get easily push back by new songs and with the new system, I feel like that it will be a bit reactive compared to the current system. I'm really curious with changes of the charting of old songs with the new system and I just hope my assumption will actually be wrong.

  • So it will be a 50/50 mix between the old system and the "old "new system? Better they just keep the new system they have now counting the 24 hours. It will probably not have any big effect anyway, but new relaeses will have a bigger chance to make to nr 1 for a few hours.

  • Someone seems kinda bitter


    Not bitter at all lmfao just saying it wouldnt stick for that long?



    Dolphin literally one year older and charting almost as good as LSG.



    Can you read properly or is that hard?


    Also the digital points are pretty close so that 7month lead Dolphin had?


    OMG having alot of promotions and comebacks boosted it also.

  • Not bitter at all lmfao just saying it wouldnt stick for that long?

    That's fine to just say that alone, but you come off as bitter because you randomly brought Blackpink into this lol.. Saying that LSG will outchart Nonstop makes it seem like you're pissed that OMG has better charting songs than BP or something

  • for stating that something like this wouldnt last.. I have no reason to be bitter lmfao.

    No you’re just salty and also wrong


    This is the current ranking on the weekly chart


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    Even one year from now OMG will have their 6 months lead over BP. At least if OMG was dropped and in the low 90s your comment would have made sense. You do know these are cumulative weeks spent on the chart right?


    How can you say a song that has many months on a song will “easily” over take it when they’re literally charting at the same rank. It will take a good year or more. And that’s also a big MAYBE because the songs don’t seem to be dropping enough.


    It is the definition of being both wrong. And salty.


  • Welldone I wasnt arguing against dolphin if you people could read at all I said non stop..

  • That's fine to just say that alone, but you come off as bitter because you randomly brought Blackpink into this lol.. Saying that LSG will outchart Nonstop makes it seem like you're pissed that OMG has better charting songs than BP or something


    Pretty sure HYLT has more digital points then Non stop and LSG has a good chance to over take dolpin so no im not pissed. I was just pointing out the top 2 wouldnt be there that long because LSG would enter it.

  • It doesn't actually. It reached 800M points faster than hylt. Nonstop is charting higher than hylt atm everywhere.


    Ah your right I guess it did hit 800m but seems HYLT was faster?


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  • Ah your right I guess it did hit 800m but seems HYLT was faster?


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    Yup hylt did it faster. Nonstop was released april end while hylt june end.

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  • Yup hylt did it faster. Nonstop was released april end while hylt june end.


    HYLT and NONSTOP are pretty close like 10 million difference but yeah between LSG and Dolphin quite a bit of digital points apart but I was comparing LSG and NONstop anyways.

  • HYLT and NONSTOP are pretty close like 10 million difference but yeah between LSG and Dolphin quite a bit of digital points apart but I was comparing LSG and NONstop anyways.

    Now i am not sure what changes this new system will bring in but otherwise lsg would have outlived nonstop in the current system. Hopefully things don't change much. Don't know why ppl talking about dolphin lol.

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  • But it got skewed because songs got better visibility in the real-time chart therefore increasing their weekly charting. Sajaegi literally exists for this reason.

    That’s just an assumption you made.


    If you have observed the weekly chart not much has changed. Even with real time ranking BGs could not even last a single week on the weekly chart let alone top 20 or 30. Exposure on “real time” was never a favor for the weekly or for that matter the daily chart.


    The over all ULs have comedown indeed so I wouldn’t compare those. But the actual time spent on the this chart is consistent and valid.

  • Also stop making this excuse that 24hits is the reason some songs r doing well in longevity. Some of your faves have been tanking hard with longevity on the same system lolz. The songs got to that level that's why they r doing well. Your faves song didn't i am afraid.

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  • That’s just an assumption you made.


    If you have observed the weekly chart not much has changed. Even with real time ranking BGs could not even last a single week on the weekly chart let alone top 20 or 30. Exposure on “real time” was never a favor for the weekly or for that matter the daily chart.


    The over all ULs have comedown indeed so I wouldn’t compare those. But the actual time spent on the this chart is consistent and valid.

    Yes it does impact it as the change in the chart impacts music consumption and therefore impacts new songs in the top 100. If people aren't discovering new songs why would that not be reflected on the weekly?


    Most hits post the chart change have not left yet but you look at the weeks in the melon top 10/1 and those records have been smashed. Dynamite spent 30+ weeks in the top 10 shattering every record. Lovesick Girls spent 20+ weeks in the top 10, shattering the gg record that was jointly held by Tell Me/Cheer Up at 17 weeks.

    They clearly state they are changing the charts as new music is harder to find, therefore less new songs in the top 100. The current chart that isn't moving is done by UL's mainly, same as the weekly.


    Boy groups charting doesn't tell you much at all here. Why do you think all the longevity records at no.1/the top 10 (and now top 100 as a year has gone by) got destroyed post the chart change?

  • That’s just an assumption you made.


    If you have observed the weekly chart not much has changed. Even with real time ranking BGs could not even last a single week on the weekly chart let alone top 20 or 30. Exposure on “real time” was never a favor for the weekly or for that matter the daily chart.


    The over all ULs have comedown indeed so I wouldn’t compare those. But the actual time spent on the this chart is consistent and valid.

    Most BGs don't chart enough on real-time to reap its benefits. Not sure why are you using BGs, this is a GG thread and GG have a much better charting power.


    So you're saying nobody uses the real-time chart as an inspiration to what they want to listen? I do it all the time when I'm undecided. I look over charts and get reminded of older songs which I like.


    The ULs issue is complex and it's not just because of the reform.

  • Pretty sure HYLT has more digital points then Non stop and LSG has a good chance to over take dolpin so no im not pissed. I was just pointing out the top 2 wouldnt be there that long because LSG would enter it.

    I saw someone mention HYLT vs Nonstop already so I won't comment on that but my whole point was that there wasn't really a need to bring Blackpink into this discussion.. If you thought Nonstop was gonna drop off the charts soon, that's all you had to say lol.. Especially because this thread was about OMG about to break records and you suddenly bringing up another group being like - welp they won't have their record for long because my fave will trample them soon - that's how it came off across tbh

  • Again these are all assumptions. And negates the probability that songs are better consumed now.

  • Most BGs don't chart enough on real-time to reap its benefits. Not sure why are you using BGs, this is a GG thread and GG have a much better charting power.


    So you're saying nobody uses the real-time chart as an inspiration to what they want to listen? I do it all the time when I'm undecided. I look over charts and get reminded of older songs which I like.


    The ULs issue is complex and it's not just because of the reform.

    Time spent on chart was going up even before chart reform on these charts.


    For example universe and Love shot being EXO’s longest charting songs on daily/weekly charts even higher than their bigger hits like CMB/LMR. Not just true for EXO but all groups that were charting started to chart longer since 2017/2018 year after year.


    Correlation is never causation.


    It’s not a matter of fact that songs are charting longer now just because of chart reform.

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