After been found obsessed with Ronald Reagan now Siwon been caught liking Trump too??

  • I only know that this guy is from super junior. Based on his likings, is he conservative???

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  • Besides their conservatives religion views,

    Reagan ignored AIDS

    Trump ignored Covid

    The early stages are the most critical for saving lives, and both screwed up :pepefacepalm:

  • Is he?? :peperun:


    Becaue Trump is a mess

    You can say that about most anyone in politics depending on what side you are sitting on. He's not perfect but he did a lot of good things for Korea, for the Middle East and for the United States. He isn't racist nor is he homophobic and anyone who thinks he is has been manipulated. People like to forget this but it wasn't even a decade ago that Barack Obama declared that marriage is between a man and a woman. Nobody is calling him a homophobe. Joe Biden was the architect of legislation that specifically and very negatively impacted the black community. He has openly made disparaging comments towards the the gay community. He quite literally and unapologetically spoke of young black men as if they were beyond help and needed to be incarcerated for the safety of Americans. Kamala Harris, as a DA did a lot of the same.

  • You can say that about most anyone in politics depending on what side you are sitting on. He's not perfect but he did a lot of good things for Korea, for the Middle East and for the United States. He isn't racist nor is he homophobic and anyone who thinks he is has been manipulated. People like to forget this but it wasn't even a decade ago that Barack Obama declared that marriage is between a man and a woman. Nobody is calling him a homophobe. Joe Biden was the architect of legislation that specifically and very negatively impacted the black community. He has openly made disparaging comments towards the the gay community. He quite literally and unapologetically spoke of young black men as if they were beyond help and needed to be incarcerated for the safety of Americans. Kamala Harris, as a DA did a lot of the same.

    I understand your explanations

    That's why I never support any politicians because majority each of them have something that they screwed up

    I put Reagan and Trump in the same brackets since both of them have the same conservative views, poor handling of the pandemics, also both have many similar views. Afterall, they both came from Republicans Party

  • if it were any other competent president we woulda been aight.


    There were even reports that if trump had sounded the alarm early, the economy wouldn't have come crashing down so hard, harming so many more.

    Please. Yeah I bet dumb fuck, puttering 'ol Joe Biden would have saved the world and handled COVID. What a lazy, ignorant assessment of the covid situation. And by the way, we are "aight". All of us besides the old folks in New York that Andrew Cuomo forced into nursing homes and killed and then covered up. The Biden administration is literally carting in illegal immigrants by the thousands across our borders and into our communities and has been for months without testing for covid, so what are you even on about judging Trumps handling? Trump was getting advice from Fauci who was bought and paid for by people who don't like Trump. Nobody could have really done any more or less and states had responsibility over their own constituents.

  • interesting...i wonder if an idol can be cancelled because of their political beliefs...

    K-pop takes things too far. I'm all for capitalism but I have no problems listening to socialist artists from my country. Their music is good regardless of their political spectrum. To each their own.

  • For westerners like me who hate Trump this is quite bad, but Trump is a quite popular figure in Korea, who was supported by like 90% of Koreans in the election. Many like him in Korea because of his stance towards China and because they think that Biden loves China. China has become extremely unpopular in the last few years, especially after claiming that Kimchi is a Chinese invention.

  • To each of their own I guess

    But if I'm a fan of him and I found out that he's liking Reagan & Trump is umm... :pepe-back-away:

    sorry so you would cancel him or rather not support him in the future?


    hmmm interesting

    it really is up to each individual to decide

  • K-pop takes things too far. I'm all for capitalism but I have no problems listening to socialist artists from my country. To each their own.

    so it really depends on the individual to decide huh


    well if an idol supported something that you felt strong against would you cancel or no longer support such idol?

  • sorry so you would cancel him or rather not support him in the future?


    hmmm interesting

    it really is up to each individual to decide

    Since its his freedom of speech, If I'm a fan I rather choose not to support him anymore .

    Not all because of his political stance, but after I found out he's apparently homophobic but does queer baiting for popularity . That's a nail in the coffin for me :pepenomad:

  • so it really depends on the individual to decide huh


    well if an idol supported something that you felt strong against would you cancel or no longer support such idol?

    In the end it depends if it's their personal belief or if they're promoting it. If I were to cancel everyone who thinks differently from me I would have to cancel 95% of my country since I'm from a minor school of thought.


    I think celebrities should stay out of politics; they have to much power of influence over the masses. If they decide to use it to promote a political stance then they should be prepared to face opposition.


    Of course if they believe in something I deem too wrong then I may refuse to support them.


    To be honest, I prefer to stay out of artists lives and only enjoy their work. It makes life easier and takes less time.

  • Like when the edits with Reagan happened I gave him a pass because they were made by his solo fans and would tag him on Instragram. Elf tried to explain the fans who were making the edits why Reagan was not a good president or person but they never cared and continued making edits and gifting him stuff with it. He’s getting too tiresome for my opinion and not really contributing anything to the group. Many including me just want him to openly say he’s going to become a politician and leave the group or just shut up.

  • Please. Yeah I bet dumb fuck, puttering 'ol Joe Biden would have saved the world and handled COVID. What a lazy, ignorant assessment of the covid situation. And by the way, we are "aight". All of us besides the old folks in New York that Andrew Cuomo forced into nursing homes and killed and then covered up. The Biden administration is literally carting in illegal immigrants by the thousands across our borders and into our communities and has been for months without testing for covid, so what are you even on about judging Trumps handling? Trump was getting advice from Fauci who was bought and paid for by people who don't like Trump. Nobody could have really done any more or less and states had responsibility over their own constituents.

    Imagine being a trump supporter 🤡

  • You can say that about most anyone in politics depending on what side you are sitting on. He's not perfect but he did a lot of good things for Korea, for the Middle East and for the United States. He isn't racist nor is he homophobic and anyone who thinks he is has been manipulated. People like to forget this but it wasn't even a decade ago that Barack Obama declared that marriage is between a man and a woman. Nobody is calling him a homophobe. Joe Biden was the architect of legislation that specifically and very negatively impacted the black community. He has openly made disparaging comments towards the the gay community. He quite literally and unapologetically spoke of young black men as if they were beyond help and needed to be incarcerated for the safety of Americans. Kamala Harris, as a DA did a lot of the same.

    I hate when MAGA people bring up Biden crime reform bill from years ago, because that was bipartisan and passed with majority support. It wasn’t a Biden was wrong situation, it was the whole country.


    Also “he’s not perfect”. He literally lied at an election being stolen with fake ballots being made, hidden under tables, etc etc. Told his Vice president to steal the election, and when Pence wouldn’t, his supports attacked the capital in which he said “i guess they are more upset about the election than you” to McCarthy while the capital was under attack.


    But your obviously an apologist by starting with “he’s not perfect”. You know he’s shit and still choose to support him. Classic maga.


    I’m not saying all Trump policies were bad, but you made little attempt to be specific on what he did good and instead attacked Biden/Kamala for past positions they don’t support anymore.

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    His political choices questionable imo, some elfs please educate him :pepefacepalm:

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    His political choices questionable imo, some elfs please educate him :pepefacepalm:

    dude's like almost 40, i think he's at a point where he can educate himself. this is just who he is, some dude with a creepy reagan obsession and questionable political views.

  • Siwon is a religious conservative and he never made a secret out of it.


    I don’t care about his political ideology tho. I don’t support his and if you don’t support his either it’s up to you as an individual to decide if you continue to stan him or not.


    I won’t be canceling someone for their political ideology, unless they start to be political in an influential way that will end up harming others.


    Also just because someone is a conservative doesn’t mean they are inherently more of a bad person than a liberal and of course vice versa.

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