why people have more expectations for GG than BG

Tbh, for most people if you're not #1 you're a flop.

i completely agree. and the most baffling thing is that there is a higher percentage of female kpop stans and then the way some of them put other females down to validate their ‘oppars’ bare minimum achievements is horrible

I want to say something but I'm gonna be cancelled so anyways I sorta agree

Kinda agree tbh.

I feel like GG success isn't as valued as BG success in general

It's like omnimorphism said. The mindset sometimes, especially for gg is, if you're not best, you're last.

I can't say about bg's as I rarely discussed about them but yeah, when it comes to gg's there's always some people to use any convenient metric to downplay a group's achievements. Like, "oh they're not charting so well, they're not so well known from the gp, they'll never be a nation's gg like SNSD". Who cares? As long as a group is successful enough to keep going, then everything's fine. A group doesn't have to be #1 to be relevant.

Taking Momoland as an exemple to prove your point does not really make sense. I doubt anybody called Momoland a flop in 2018 when Boom Boom was a huge hit. They are called flop nowadays because their two last singles did not chart at all and it is clear the group was not able to gain a sustainable fanbase.

I think pretty much everybody agrees that Oh my Girl had a very successful year in 2020 and yet Non stop album only sold 52 000 (which is still good for them because it is their best selling album) .

For Twice, I believe it is more due to the fact they used to dominate everybody in terms of charting so the difference is very noticeable. And they are a top group with a lot of antis too so that plays a role. BTS On was called a flop too by some people because top groups like Twice or BTS are not judged by the same standards as others.

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It's like omnimorphism said. The mindset sometimes, especially for gg is, if you're not best, you're last.

Some people are obviously living by Ricky Bobby's words.

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Some people are obviously living by Ricky Bobby's words.

LMAOOO

If people only cared about their own faves the world would be a better place

Even the biggest groups that are strong in all areas are called flops.

You only have to do less well than last time in a single area for someone of a rival fandom to come after you.

It's petty af.

BG are regularly dragged for not charting well and their physical sales are invalidated. As we all know, they are considered merch sales by obsessed (mostly female) fans that don't care about the music.

GP approval is the most "unbiased" so the only winner here is IU since she performs amazingly on the charts every time. Or groups with generally low sales that have viral songs, for that year.

Because some fans of female kpop gg set their faves up by having super high expectations and false narratives. Otherwise, everything's cool.

Stanning nugu groups is the best way to remain humble regarding one's achievements. Like, a favorite group of mine had a comeback two weeks ago and the MV is still struggling at reaching 1M views on youtube even though the overall quality is top notch.

Another thing to note is that the competition currently more fierce within girl groups

It's a bit harder to compare top BG charting now

Everyone is expecting newer BG to "flop" on Korean charts since we have seen for some time that they don't appear on there often or for too long

There is a greater emphasis on physical sales

For newer GG (aespa, g-idle, itzy), the situation is a little less predictable

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i completely agree. and the most baffling thing is that there is a higher percentage of female kpop stans and then the way some of them put other females down to validate their ‘oppars’ bare minimum achievements is horrible

Or like in the case of Twice it's just other gg stans male or female being gleeful over their decline