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I would be ok if people criticised lypsinging and quality of their songs, but it is much more than that.
It has turned into targeted harassment.
Both kpop Stans and knetz are constantly picking at smth what aespa does.
Only today Iโve seen at least 50 hit tweets with dragging and slutshaming, body shaming Karina at W Event. Same with other members.
They got dragged for using tone up creams and it got millions of likes on TikTok.
They got dragged for laughing at an award show.
And much more things that they got dragged for only this year.
Yes! Not just 2025 but a few of the earlier years!
It goes beyond music too! Theyโre constantly on surveillance by knets, ifans and antis! Everything they do is judged x 10 folds!
If a regular idol put their arms up and waved at fans it would make no noise as it should but if that was an aespa member it would be breaking news about how theyโre in some secret Nazi cult to overthrow the Korean government looking to convert the netizens ![]()
Yes! Not just 2025 but a few of the earlier years!
It goes beyond music too! Theyโre constantly on surveillance by knets, ifans and antis! Everything they do is judged x 10 folds!
If a regular idol put their arms up and waved at fans it would make no noise as it should but if that was an aespa member it would be breaking news about how theyโre in some secret Nazi cult to overthrow the Korean government looking to convert the netizens
Honestly, I think it's what comes with success. Successful groups will attract the most antis and criticism. People are entertained with the fall, which is why these hate trains happen.
Kpop stans owe BP a huge apology
And since when have we started playing the victim olympics 
And since when have we started playing the victim olympics
Second Gen ![]()
I remember one day a blink showed me a huge list of a part of what they had to deal with
I never saw things the same again lol
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2024 NJ and LSF hands down
2023 Nobody really thought about aespa so probably BP
2022 People thought about aespa even less
2021 Ok aespa here
Mys have lived a charmed life, and most of the heat they get these days is return fire.
2020 aespa got crazy hate both predebut and debut only until 2021 when they blew up with NL people started to calm down on them and then 2022 was their Coachella year along with GIRLS release and the Macyโs Thankgiven day parade ![]()
2020 - 2023 were challenging years as MY people really hated aespa! Lsfm hate train took over with their coachella performance etc and before that BP especially with the Jennie lazy/low energy and Twice encores, but between 2020-2023 aespa were probably the most harassed gg ![]()
Second Gen
Which fandom cried more?
Which fandom cried more?
Sone ![]()
Whoever votes no are delusional as hell, Aespa doesn't just get hate for their music/performance, they get hate over everything they do, the only other group that can be compared is NewJeans because i have seen some fucked up people saying pretty nasty thigns about them but you are crazy if you think you can compare the degree of hate Aespa gets to IVE LSFM or other groups
you are pretty funny icl
I can be both funny and right 
This victim card some of y'all are trying to pull is not cute seeing as whatever unwarranted criticism AESPA may face is as a result of MYs' own behavior toward other groups.
Y'all could legit hate on a woman until she becomes visibly petrified at the prospect of doing something she's been doing over a decade and then proceed to blame her lack of skills instead of the subhuman idiots who choose to hate on her for something that has no effect on them but oh, your faves receive criticism for lacking stage presence and "ITS A WITCH HUNT
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This victim card some of y'all are trying to pull is not cute seeing as whatever unwarranted criticism AESPA may face is as a result of MYs' own behavior toward other groups.
Y'all could legit hate on a woman until she becomes visibly petrified at the prospect of doing something she's been doing over a decade and then proceed to blame her lack of skills instead of the subhuman idiots who choose to hate on her for something that has no effect on them but oh, your faves receive criticism for lacking stage presence and "ITS A WITCH HUNT
"
Is this what it looks like โcriticism for stage presenceโ? And it is one of the tamest of those nasty tweets Iโve seen just today.
Or this one? Implying that Winter is p
And this has been going on for months
Both on Korean and international side
This victim card some of y'all are trying to pull is not cute seeing as whatever unwarranted criticism AESPA may face is as a result of MYs' own behavior toward other groups.
Y'all could legit hate on a woman until she becomes visibly petrified at the prospect of doing something she's been doing over a decade and then proceed to blame her lack of skills instead of the subhuman idiots who choose to hate on her for something that has no effect on them but oh, your faves receive criticism for lacking stage presence and "ITS A WITCH HUNT
"
If you don't have anything smart to say, just don't say anything because you looking pretty ignorant right now
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Is this what it looks like โcriticism for stage presenceโ? And it is one of the tamest of those nasty tweets Iโve seen just today.
External Content x.comContent embedded from external sources will not be displayed without your consent.Through the activation of external content, you agree that personal data may be transferred to third party platforms. We have provided more information on this in our privacy policy.Or this one? Implying that Winter is p
And this has been going on for months
Both on Korean and international side
Wowww, a mainstream kpop group receives hate and gets nasty comments thrown at them on the daily. What a completely rule-breaking, game-changing, awe-inspiring, otherworldly phenomenon
Wanna know something? I literally could not care less what happens on twitter.
My problem is with y'all here. On AKP.
Fact of the matter is that y'all are being major hypocrites trying to avoid admitting the OTHER fact that your fandom has been doing much worse to other groups and for the past few years. You don't exactly get to cry wolf when people such as yourself were invalidating the trauma someone faced (continues to face, too) and blaming it on her lack of skill and not the asscracks who do the hating.
I can stand for a lot of things. The last thing I can stand for is hypocrites who act like their predicament is not due to their previous malicious behaviors so whatever hate AESPA is experiencing currently is more MYs' fault than any other. That's where your big-mouthed ego gets you.
Ignorant is a perfect encapsulation of all your ADOR-HYBE takes.
Keep talking.
Display MoreWowww, a mainstream kpop group receives hate and gets nasty comments thrown at them on the daily. What a completely rule-breaking, game-changing, awe-inspiring, otherworldly phenomenon
Wanna know something? I literally could not care less what happens on twitter.
My problem is with y'all here. On AKP.
Fact of the matter is that y'all are being major hypocrites trying to avoid admitting the OTHER fact that your fandom has been doing much worse to other groups and for the past few years. You don't exactly get to cry wolf when people such as yourself were invalidating the trauma someone faced (continues to face, too) and blaming it on her lack of skill and not the asscracks who do the hating.
I can stand for a lot of things. The last thing I can stand for is hypocrites who act like their predicament is not due to their previous malicious behaviors so whatever hate AESPA is experiencing currently is more MYs' fault than any other. That's where your big-mouthed ego gets you.
Ignorant is a perfect encapsulation of all your ADOR-HYBE takes.
Keep talking.
I was not even on AKP when coachella scandal happened. And who on AKP has been shitting on lsfm from mys, cuz I donโt remember any?
You donโt care about twitter? Well most of the hate that lsfm got during coachella was from twitter, where it spread like wildfire. And it was 28362827 fandoms hating on lsfm at the forefront being blinks. They were equally getting dragged on Korean side. So Iโm not understanding why are you blaming this on mys?
Crying wolves? Nobody cried wolves. It was not a my who made the thread, and mys donโt bring up the hate articles, posts, viral tweets here. Other fandoms do.
You think mys are all evil and fearnots are angels? They fight daily on twitter dragging each other and getting hit tweets.
And I or other mys on akp never not admitted that there are crazy mys on twitter. So Im not getting the hypocrisy part.
You want to talk about other apps? Mys are non existent there. Reddit: filled with Hybe stans, TikTok: filled with bg stans, YT: filled with blinks stays and armys.
Aespa deserves hate, cuz it is their fans fault? What is that logic? So when Aespa was getting hate pre debut whose fault was that? Or when their fandom was small up until my world era, whose fault was for aespaโs hate?
Its feels like it was le seraffim
that was 24.
2024 lsf & njz (+ illit to a lesser extent)
2025 njz & aespa & bp
hardcore hate trains:
- specially post injunction for njz (absolutely INSANE)
- for karina specially who is getting a fresh one just right now (poor girl really!)
- and then Lisa/Jennie, it gets VERY nasty and trashy for them
Yes, and quite convenient that is.
You donโt care about twitter? Well most of the hate that lsfm got during coachella was from twitter, where it spread like wildfire. And it was 28362827 fandoms hating on lsfm at the forefront being blinks. They were equally getting dragged on Korean side. So Iโm not understanding why are you blaming this on mys?
Crying wolves? Nobody cried wolves. It was not a my who made the thread, and mys donโt bring up the hate articles, posts, viral tweets here. Other fandoms do.
You think mys are all evil and fearnots are angels? They fight daily on twitter dragging each other and getting hit tweets.
Girl, not a single kpop fandom is full of angels. Mine included, bffr.
You're deflecting way more than necessary.
You're being intentionally obtuse.
Where exactly in my post did I state that AESPA deserves hate..? Please show me.
What is deserved and what is reality is completely different.
What AESPA and every other kpop group deserves is all the love and support for the shit they have to go through at the hands of the same people that put their group together.
But reality? Hate. Sexualizing, demeaning, objectifying comments. Nonstop. And why? You think people wake up miraculously and decide "let me hate on AESPA"? no. Obviously the jobless losers exist but a considerable amount of AESPA's current criticisms and hate (current as in 2025. not debut or my world era btw) are because MYs have been and are nasty as fuck to other groups.
And its not just MYs tbh. Kpop fandoms in general. Y'all will cry wolf that your group is getting hate but then proceed to say the most vile and insensitive shit about the next group.
Hypocrites.
And since you have problems with context, this thread is about AESPA so I will call out MYs, AESPA's fandom who have recently become noteworthy hypocrites.
Do keep up.
cara i have been in kpop since 2013. i don't ever remember this level of hate trains like in 24/25 towards ANY groups. specially the scale of it on social networks. their growth in the later years also gave a major platform to malicious haters.
I remember snsd had VERY dedicated haters but this level of media harrasement? NOPE. and how constant and manifactured it is throughout the whole year? NOPE.
and it all very conveniently and mysteriously blowed up after hybe's aquisition of ithaca the american tag pr firm! and very mysteriously the main targets are groups bango hates the most and considers as the biggest threats. aka njz, bp and aespa!
it doesn't help that hybe/bango have a clear hold on the media in korea either. it has been exposed times after times.
Display Morecara i have been in kpop since 2013. i don't ever remember this level of hate trains like in 24/25 towards ANY groups.
I remember snsd had VERY dedicated haters but this level of media harrasement? NOPE. and how constant and manifactured it is throughout the whole year? NOPE.
and it all very conveniently and mysteriously blowed up after hybe's aquisition of ithaca the american tag pr firm! and very mysteriously the main targets are groups bango hates the most and considers as the biggest rivals. aka njz, bp and aespa!
it doesn't help that hybe/bango have a clear hold on the media in korea. it has been exposed times after times.
I didn't ask.
Display MoreYes, and quite convenient that is.
Girl, not a single kpop fandom is full of angels. Mine included, bffr.
You're deflecting way more than necessary.
You're being intentionally obtuse.
Where exactly in my post did I state that AESPA deserves hate..? Please show me.
What is deserved and what is reality is completely different.
What AESPA and every other kpop group deserves is all the love and support for the shit they have to go through at the hands of the same people that put their group together.
But reality? Hate. Sexualizing, demeaning, objectifying comments. Nonstop. And why? You think people wake up miraculously and decide "let me hate on AESPA"? no. Obviously the jobless losers exist but a considerable amount of AESPA's current criticisms and hate (current as in 2025. not debut or my world era btw) are because MYs have been and are nasty as fuck to other groups.
And its not just MYs tbh. Kpop fandoms in general. Y'all will cry wolf that your group is getting hate but then proceed to say the most vile and insensitive shit about the next group.
Hypocrites.
And since you have problems with context, this thread is about AESPA so I will call out MYs, AESPA's fandom who have recently become noteworthy hypocrites.
Do keep up.
So who are those MYs that hate on Lesserafim here? please do tell
Display MoreYes, and quite convenient that is.
Girl, not a single kpop fandom is full of angels. Mine included, bffr.
You're deflecting way more than necessary.
You're being intentionally obtuse.
Where exactly in my post did I state that AESPA deserves hate..? Please show me.
What is deserved and what is reality is completely different.
What AESPA and every other kpop group deserves is all the love and support for the shit they have to go through at the hands of the same people that put their group together.
But reality? Hate. Sexualizing, demeaning, objectifying comments. Nonstop. And why? You think people wake up miraculously and decide "let me hate on AESPA"? no. Obviously the jobless losers exist but a considerable amount of AESPA's current criticisms and hate (current as in 2025. not debut or my world era btw) are because MYs have been and are nasty as fuck to other groups.
And its not just MYs tbh. Kpop fandoms in general. Y'all will cry wolf that your group is getting hate but then proceed to say the most vile and insensitive shit about the next group.
Hypocrites.
And since you have problems with context, this thread is about AESPA so I will call out MYs, AESPA's fandom who have recently become noteworthy hypocrites.
Do keep up.
You still didnโt provide a single receipt of akp mys shitting on lsfm.
The last thing I can stand for is hypocrites who act like their predicament is not due to their previous malicious behaviors so whatever hate AESPA is experiencing currently is more MYs' fault than any other. That's where your big-mouthed ego gets you.
I guess we can say that all the hate that lsfm got was because of lsfmโs singing skills? And how they handled whole coachella situation?
I guess we can say that all the hate that lsfm got was because of lsfmโs singing skills?
What are you even talking about and what does this have to do with any part of my point.
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