Wheein & Moonbyul vs Lisa & Momo

Is this a joke

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Seungyeon and SuA vs Lisa and Momo would be more interesting.

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Not really.

Not much are aware of those idols so it would be Lise & Momo by default, anyway.

the pain of following nugu and mid tier groups because lots of talent there, but not many care

lol is this a joke? It has to be right? lol.

You shoulda put Yooa tbh. The best dancer in 3rd gen and nobody knows about her.

easy choice

Lisa and Momo for dancing. It's not hard question

If obsession has a face, it's CaraFIMIE . 🤣

Look at my vote, no one can say I'm biased! But I can safely say, most of you are clueless and don't know anything about dancing! So, as usual, I will leave these videos here, maybe you'll learn something for the 100th time. Or you know, you can just choose to remain ignorant, because you only follow mainstream Kpop.

TWICE and Blackpink only has Momo and Lisa, but MAMAMOO has 4 members and neither of them are lacking!

Go argue with professional dancers and choreographers if you think you know more.

Also, this.🤣

Lia Kim Explains Why Her First MAMAMOO "HIP" Choreography Was Rejected

Here's some MAMAMOO dance video.

Wheein:

Byul:

Solar:

Show me just one performance of Momo or Lisa that can top this!

Hwasa:

Rookie Mamamoo doing their own choreo in high heels.

One of the hardest choreos of a girl group! If not the hardest! Show me a girl group who can do this while singing live like them!

Before you start typing your nonsense, I won't argue with clueless and lazy people who only pick Momo and Lisa because they're more popular! Show me actual video and proof to support your claim!

Just because MAMAMOO is a vocal group, and they focus more on their live performance, doesn't mean they're not great dancers. I'm pretty sure they choreographed more dance than Lisa and Momo combined. No, I'm not exaggerating.

Lastly, this one for fun.🤣

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the pain of following nugu and mid tier groups because lots of talent there, but not many care

People are comfortable with the narrative that only SM has talent

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People are comfortable with the narrative that only SM has talent

I'll rephrase this:

"People are comfortable with the narrative that only their faves has talent"

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I most definitely know more than you seeing as I used to be an actual dancer.

And I can say for sure that Momo & Lisa are most definitely the better dancers.

Yeah, right, you were a dancer, and you think Wheein and Byul are not on par with Momo and Lisa.

Lia Kim literally saying Wheein is a pro-level dancer, but sure, you know more than a 41 year old woman who's in this industry for decades.🤣

If you were an actual dancer, prove it, because all you do is talking nonsense, but you never wrote a comment with real arguments or valid points why Lisa and Momo are much better than Wheein and Byul.

So, if you know more than me, let's see, write a detailed analysis of all 4 of them. A REAL DANCER could do that easily. Take your time, I can wait.😉

You literally said, you would pick Momo and Lisa any day just because you don't know other dancers, and that makes your so called "opinion" invalid instantly.

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Lia Kim literally saying Wheein is a pro-level dancer, but sure, you know more than a 41 year old woman who's in this industry for decades.🤣

Both Momo and Lisa have been praised by multiple dancers and choreographers in the industry, Lia Kim once said that Momo is like a dancer sent down from the gods .

I don't think there is a compliment higher than that.

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Both Momo and Lisa have been praised by multiple dancers and choreographers in the industry, Lia Kim once said that Momo is like a dancer sent down from the gods .

I don't think there is a compliment higher than that.

So? When did I say they're crap dancers and no one praised them?

Anyone can see my vote: I literally said all 4 of them are on the same level. I didn't pick my faves over Momo or Lisa, unlike 99% of Kpop fans!

If I'm forced to rank them, this would be my list, just so all of you biased stans can see.

1. Momo

2. Wheein

3. Lisa

4. Byul

And for the record, no one provided actual videos or real opinions, except me. These stupid threads are so boring and meaningless, just a troll thread basically, and this is why I don't want to argue with anyone, because every picking their faves and mocking other Idols, because they don't know anything about them, yet they want to act like they know everything.

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Lisa & Momo

neither Wheein or Moonbyul are the first one to come to my mind when thinking of dancing

That's obvious, because neither of them are in a dance focused group like BP and TWICE, and both Lisa and Momo that's their main job, basically, unlike for Wheein and Byul.

I can accept if someone is uneducated, because most of you don't follow everyone, and Mamamoo never had the image of a dancer group. Their vocals and stage presence always outshined their other talents, but if someone, not just me, providing actual facts that they're indeed amazing, pro-level dancers, is just ignorance, and that I can't accept.

That moonbyul person is as stiff as fucking concrete. Immediate disqualification.

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Firstly, I was a dancer and you have zero right to challenge that. I don't need to "prove" it to you. Why don't you prove that you can actually sing and are a sound engineer? Hm?

Secondly, Lia Kim sayin Wheein is a pro-level dancer =/= her being on the same level as Lisa and Momo.

And lastly I didn't say that I would pick Momo and Lisa by default, I said that most people would pick them by default because they are more well known. Get your facts straight.

I have every right to challenge that, because you never made any valid point, just created some troll threads because you're bored.

I did prove who am I and what is my job, I actually shared a screenshot of SUGA's latest concert movie in what I was the one of the editor and sound engineer. I never said, I'm a singer, I said, my mother is a vocal coach and I worked with singers.

Lia saying Wheein is a pro-level dancer actually means she's on the same level, because pro-level dancers are much better than Idol dancers, my guy. If you were a real dancer, you should know that.

When you actually prove you have the knowledge about things you wanna argue about, we can talk. Till then, go, stream Le Sserafim and stop wasting my time with your nonsense troll threads.

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That moonbyul person is as stiff as fucking concrete. Immediate disqualification.

And people call me toxic when some Kpop stans can't even express themselves like a normal person.

What a ridiculous bullshit is this.

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And people call me toxic when some Kpop stans can't even express themselves like a normal person.

What a ridiculous bullshit is this.

My opinion. Suck it up.

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I doubt you can do any better so express your "opinion" respectfully or don't express it at all.

Nope, that's how I see them dancing and I have every right to say so.

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No, not really.

Until you dance better than she can, then express your opinion respectfully.

Yes, really

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I doubt you can do any better so express your "opinion" respectfully or don't express it at all.

That's not how that works. We're not getting paid to dance professionally.

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..and?

Why not leave the criticism to actual professionals which i'm sure neither of you are.

Because I just told you, that's not how that works. I can criticize how YOU do YOUR job all the live long day, because you're the one getting compensated for doing it and are expected to be good at it. Not me. I have a different job, one that I'm also expected to be good at. No one cares if I can dance, nor should they.

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Technically you can because you have a mind of your own...but you shouldn't because you have no idea how to do my job cuz its MY job, not yours. Do you think you are qualified to tell a surgeon how to conduct surgery just because you can? I mean obviously, there are exceptions but, in this case, Moonbyul being stiff doesn't make her any less of a dancer. You having a mind of your own doesn't justify you criticizing a professional in THEIR area of expertise. You can =/= you are qualified to.

I've never told a surgeon how to conduct surgery. Can I criticize them if they screw up? Sure can! The victim of their malpractice can do much more than criticize them. They can sue.

If a restaurant cooks your food incorrectly, do you not complain because you aren't a master chef yourself? This is illogical, yes? You needn't be qualified for a particular job to be justified in criticizing the person doing that job.

Being stiff is something that does make someone a lesser dancer, because you're expected not to be. Messing up the choreo also makes you a lesser dancer, because you're expected to get it right. You can't just be bad and expect no criticism because it's your area of supposed expertise. Expertise is skill in a particular field, not just a paycheck that says you do this particular thing for a living.

As the only person in this entire forum who has seen all of the mentioned idols dance in person MULTIPLE times, my vote is the most accurate and least biased.