Why do you all have to make me the "charts guy" even in my unproblematic era? 
There, I've started the dialogue without any narrative spinning.
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They deserve top10 in all charts with this song.
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Yes, they have now cracked the MelOn Top 100.
I just wanted to make sure I included their debut.
I'll have to go back and see how it compares to their previous debut positions.
The song can easily rise, but debuts tell us a lot about how much anticipation and positive noise is around a group.
They are charting worse than non-big4 rookies KiiiKiiii, so there isn't much to say
Song will struggle to enter melon daily top 100 on first 24h. Crazy debuted at 34
They are charting worse than non-big4 rookies KiiiKiiii, so there isn't much to say
I was going to say this was a chart debut that reminded me of present day Twice in Korea
The song will rise, but 2024 did nasty work to LSF's domestic power.
2024 did nasty work to LSF's domestic power.
the Lord's work 
They will get PAMs and end all the pop girlies
cuz they didn't have a great performance in the chart for Fearnots to make a chart thread about Hot
Hot enter the chart and have been losing spot since it's already at #98
even BoyNextdoor new songs who's not even a comeback song but an Ost for a webtoon enter the chart higher and is still charting higher
hopefully the promotions help HOT to rise and do better in the chart
cuz Crazy performance were already really bad and weak but if it continue like this Hot would be the worst performing song from a 4th gen top GG
Display Morecuz they didn't have a great performance in the chart for Fearnots to make a chart thread about Hot
Hot enter the chart and have been losing spot since it's already at #98
even BoyNextdoor new songs who's not even a comeback song but an Ost for a webtoon enter the chart higher and is still charting higher
hopefully the promotions help HOT to rise and do better in the chart
cuz Crazy performance were already really bad and weak but if it continue like this Hot would be the worst performing song from a 4th gen top GG
Hot is performing how Girls deserved to perform, unlike its superior sister song Illusion.
Display MoreI'm just going to be blunt and honest with you.
No it isn't.
TOP 100 entries are pretty good. Not Hot 100.
It's like the difference between the Billboard Hot 100 and Bubbling Under Hot 100 here in the states.
Its to early for me to care about charts.
Anyway, its at 89 now and plus, I kind of like their slow rise on the charts.
That way, brainless antis cant do some stupid mental gymnastics to argue chart manipulation.
Its to early for me to care about charts.
Anyway, its at 89 now and plus, I kind of like their slow rise on the charts.
That way, brainless antis cant do some stupid mental gymnastics to argue chart manipulation.
it's friday 10 PM in Korea
let people see some stages, and listen to it during weekend
Koreans are not really a fans of friday releases
it's friday 10 PM in Korea
let people see some stages, and listen to it during weekend
Koreans are not really a fans of friday releases
Yup.
That aside, they are eating up international charts. 66 chart entries in countries across the globe.
If it can't pass 'Drip' I'll be claiming SK for BABYMONSTER.
Its to early for me to care about charts.
Anyway, its at 89 now and plus, I kind of like their slow rise on the charts.
That way, brainless antis cant do some stupid mental gymnastics to argue chart manipulation.
hybe bots do better at night, look at sweet dreams 
they won't make it in the daily chart 
hybe bots do better at night, look at sweet dreams
they won't make it in the daily chart
They are now at 76.
It's still tooooo early to say yes or no, they'll promote the song and it's good so it could get a rise!
sweet dreams is even higher but nobody is listening to that song, and i don't even know if it's on the daily chart. probably very low.
hot is not entering the top 30 bro, probably not even the top 50.
mark my words
wanna bet?
It's still tooooo early to say yes or no, they'll promote the song and it's good so it could get a rise!
it won't, korea it over sserafim. their brand is dead. and korean kpop consummers mostly females hate bango to no end.
for gp ssera = national embarassement with bad voices and no musical identity
for korean kpopers ssera = bango, trashybe and dc gallery
wanna bet?
yeah 
They are now at 76.
it's "zombie" hours currently cuz it's the freezing time soon
most koreans are asleep so it's the moment where fandom power have more impact on the chart
that's why when you look at the chart currently most of the song are losing spot
while 90% of the song gaining spot are from PLAVE or LYW
it's not a good representation of the GP interest, the charting of a song at this hour
yeah
okay how much
it's "zombie" hours currently cuz it's the freezing time soon
most koreans are asleep so it's the moment where fandom power have more impact on the chart
that's why when you look at the chart currently most of the song are losing spotwhile 90% of the song gaining spot are from PLAVE or LYW
it's not a good representation of the GP interest, the charting of a song at this hour
Yes that means Korean fearnots are also asleep.
There's still a lot of hope then 
korean fearbots you mean
Yes that means Korean fearnots are also asleep.
There's still a lot of hope then
well we'll not act like we are naive
we all know Fandom doesn't sleep the day of their favs release and spend the 1st day doing their all to reach the goal they had for the 1st day in streaming et chart
and fandom know that it's the best moment to push a new song in the chart
so i doubt any of them are asleep
I think you take your hate or dislike whatever too far when none of the idols involved in that mess are culprit of anything related to njz issue.
It's tiring when you or any other user who clearly don't like lsrfm go in any thread about them just to be negative for the sake of it.
Njz isn't an og group either, they have several influence behind their music and concept like all groups in kpop so either chill with this uncalled behavior here or chill. Actually just chill.
I think you take your hate or dislike whatever too far when none of the idols involved in that mess are culprit of anything related to njz issue.
It's tiring when you or any other user who clearly don't like lsrfm go in any thread about them just to be negative for the sake of it.
Njz isn't an og group either, they have several influence behind their music and concept like all groups in kpop so either chill with this uncalled behavior here or chill. Actually just chill.
I was trying to explain their horrendous debut on the charts. and why it happend so from the listeners perspective.
it's undeniable that ssera have no musical identity regardless whom they take their inspiration from which are often current pop stars/sounds. they had this controverises all through along their carrier. regardless to which extent it's true, im pretty sure the gp thinks so and it's a reason why they are charting like that.
anayway chella scandal or not, a lack of identity can plumet a group's interest for the gp in this gen more than ever due to the extreme competition. the gps attention span is also getting shorter and shorter.
on the other hand njz made something old new, fresh and trendy. you can't compare trendsetters to trend followers. nobody said that trendsetters have no inspirations lol. it's all about where (and when) you get them and most importantly HOW you transform them.
also even though i don't care about the girls, like i have nothing against them personally, bango and hybe bullied, sabotaged and tried to destroy njz but also many other groups for sserafim. serrafim are bang's creation. and bang is trying to kill njz. so i want bang to f off instead. him and ALL his projects.
(as long as their under hybe)
because without them, he is NOTHING. and if he is nothing, he cant hurt njz or the other girls in the industry anymore.
if he showed any level of decency for his rivals, then nobody, nor me would give a flying f*ck about hybe groups and even less sserafim. they could be toping melon i wouldn't care, good for them.
Display MoreI was trying to explain their horrendous debut on the charts. and why it happend so from the listeners perspective.
it's undeniable that ssera have no musical identity regardless whom they take their inspiration from which are often current pop stars/sounds. they had this controverises all through along their carrier. regardless to which extent it's true, im pretty sure the gp thinks so and it's a reason why they are charting like that.
anayway chella scandal or not, a lack of identity can plumet a group's interest for the gp in this gen more than ever due to the extreme competition.
on the other hand njz in because njz made something old new and fresh and trendy. you can compare trendsetters to trend followers. nobody said that trendsetters have no inspirations lol. it's all about where (and when) you get them and most importantly HOW you transform them.
also even though i don't care about the girls, like i have nothing against them personally, bango and hybe bullied, sabotaged and tried to destroy njz but also many other groups for sserafim. serrafim are bang's creation. and bang is trying to kill njz. so i want bang to f off instead. him and ALL his projects.
if he showed any level of decency for his rivals, then nobody, nor me would give a flying f*ck about hybe groups and even less sserafim.
Hey, Tattynumbers, this isn't a new insight from you.
Let's keep the conversation strictly about the charts and try to minimize the derailments into unhinged rants about HYBE and the scumbag who runs it.
Display MoreI was trying to explain their horrendous debut on the charts. and why it happend so from the listeners perspective.
it's undeniable that ssera have no musical identity regardless whom they take their inspiration from which are often current pop stars/sounds. they had this controverises all through along their carrier. regardless to which extent it's true, im pretty sure the gp thinks so and it's a reason why they are charting like that.
anayway chella scandal or not, a lack of identity can plumet a group's interest for the gp in this gen more than ever due to the extreme competition.
on the other hand njz in because njz made something old new and fresh and trendy. you can compare trendsetters to trend followers. nobody said that trendsetters have no inspirations lol. it's all about where (and when) you get them and most importantly HOW you transform them.
also even though i don't care about the girls, like i have nothing against them personally, bango and hybe bullied, sabotaged and tried to destroy njz but also many other groups for sserafim. serrafim are bang's creation. and bang is trying to kill njz. so i want bang to f off instead. him and ALL his projects.
if he showed any level of decency for his rivals, then nobody, nor me would give a flying f*ck about hybe groups and even less sserafim.
Here you said better, but still it makes no sense to be so brutal when talking about them in their cb day, I hate when non fans purposely go all their way into artists threads just to be negative in the cb day etc instead of letting fans at least enjoy a little like you can cry all you want about no gp support etc tomorrow or any other day, but you should let them breath and not judge fans wishes.
I'm a non fan and you took my innocent quote saying they do deserve a top 10 in all charts for what? So what if I think they can get a top 10? If they don't get so what? I criticized their vocals abilities too, but I won't be pointing this every cb just for nothing.
I'm not a saint and I know I sound harsh sometimes, but there are time and place. You don't need to be here quoting anyone who says something nice about lsrfm neither you need to be in their threads if you'll say the same same you say since months ago.
Finally: no, I don't think wishing a group to fail bc of their CEO is the smartest decision neither do I see your logic. CEOs can be replaced, let's not act like idols don't struggle enough in the industry for now kpop fans act like ending their careers over OTHERS mistakes is a nice and right thing.
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