no i think the electoral college is a dumb things, which only complexify the election
in france for example we consider that the president is the represent people, so people should be able to directly vote for him
I say we legalize the purge
oh i didn't notice that the question in the poll and the question ask in the title ofnthe thread are different
its okay because i got to change the poll to "votes can be changed"
It's confusing because the thread title question asks if it should be abolished (abolished means "to get rid of"), and the poll asks if it should be preserved. Then, the body of your posts suggests that any "yes" response agrees with the title question, not the poll question. That's why I didn't answer the poll. It's best to remain consistent.
It's confusing because the thread title question asks if it should be abolished (abolished means "to get rid of"), and the poll asks if it should be preserved. Then, the body of your posts suggests that any "yes" response agrees with the title question, not the poll question. That's why I didn't answer the poll. It's best to remain consistent.
Yeah
Because i have a hard time understanding if my comment answer to the poll or to the thread title
It's confusing because the thread title question asks if it should be abolished (abolished means "to get rid of"), and the poll asks if it should be preserved. Then, the body of your posts suggests that any "yes" response agrees with the title question, not the poll question. That's why I didn't answer the poll. It's best to remain consistent.
it took me 3 edits to fix the poll
Americans should just look at retirement age in their country
and set a ban for candidates who are over that age
giving country to the hands of old people never ends well
grandfathers should just stay home and relax
I agree with you, but this post is about the Electoral College, not about retirement, candidates, etc
It's not maybe, it's definitely helps improve the odds of a third-party candidate winning.
TheHeretic Since you're frequently talking about American politics, do you think that the Electoral College should be abolished or preserved?
The Electoral College is indispensible. Otherwise, we will end up with the situation the Founders feared - a few large, massively populated cities dictating to less populated areas how they are allowed to live and work.
Repeal of the 17th Amendment along with a large expansion of the House of Representatives would lead to big improvements.
Senators were never supposed to be directly elected - they were intended to be representatives of their states to the Federal Government, selected by each state legislature. The 17th Amendment was intended to head off corruption in the legislatures (would-be Senators buying legislators' votes to win seats) but the direct election system has devolved into an even more corrupt process contolled by vast amounts of out-of state money. The corrupt will hate any talk of repealing the 17th, so I don't expect it to happen.
The House has become too small - the number of people in each district is too large. Shrinking districts and expanding their number would put the voter closer to the "action" as well as making it more difficult for out-of-district money to buy legislative results. The corrupt will hate this, also, so I don't expect it to happen.
So the Electoral College remains the only safeguard for smaller states. Abolish it, and you might as well limit the vote to taking a poll in Los Angeles, Chicago, and New York to ask them what makes them feel good about themselves every few years - which is essentially what media polls do today. The rest of the country's opinions will not matter.
Similar would be suggesting abolishing the Senate. So the House of Representatives would be the entire Congress. If that is the case your all California's bitches. XD
Similar would be suggesting abolishing the Senate. So the House of Representatives would be the entire Congress. If that is the case your all California's bitches. XD
Well that was a terrible analogy. Unless you think the Senate gives undue weight to its own votes over the House's, much like the electoral college does with votes from unpopulated backwaters? Which isn't even how things work, because a bill has to pass votes in both parts of Congress separately? Republicans & Democrats vote in the same elections, one side just has the system rigged in its favor and the other doesn't. One vote should count as one vote. I'd rather be "California's bitch" than Mississippi's.
Display MoreThe Electoral College is indispensible. Otherwise, we will end up with the situation the Founders feared - a few large, massively populated cities dictating to less populated areas how they are allowed to live and work.
Repeal of the 17th Amendment along with a large expansion of the House of Representatives would lead to big improvements.
Senators were never supposed to be directly elected - they were intended to be representatives of their states to the Federal Government, selected by each state legislature. The 17th Amendment was intended to head off corruption in the legislatures (would-be Senators buying legislators' votes to win seats) but the direct election system has devolved into an even more corrupt process contolled by vast amounts of out-of state money. The corrupt will hate any talk of repealing the 17th, so I don't expect it to happen.
The House has become too small - the number of people in each district is too large. Shrinking districts and expanding their number would put the voter closer to the "action" as well as making it more difficult for out-of-district money to buy legislative results. The corrupt will hate this, also, so I don't expect it to happen.
So the Electoral College remains the only safeguard for smaller states. Abolish it, and you might as well limit the vote to taking a poll in Los Angeles, Chicago, and New York to ask them what makes them feel good about themselves every few years - which is essentially what media polls do today. The rest of the country's opinions will not matter.
Do you think there will be a run-off election if the Electoral College was abolished?
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