Golden Child 3rd gen or 4th gen???

3rd gen becz from what i see groups that debut in or after November 2017 are 4th gen

I consider them 3rd

4th generation = 2018 rookies award nominees

I think 4th gen. Stray Kids first song released in 2017, although they officially debut in 2018. People keep saying they are 4th gen. So, I guess 2017 is the start of 4th gen

3rd gen

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I mean people seem to be on board with The Boyz being 4th gen so I guess that makes Golden Child 4th gen too.

If they're 4th gen so is ONF. And that doesn't make sense.

People call nct 4th gen due to the new units that keep debuting every year which is wrong to me since I consider them 3rd gen

I think stray kids and the other groups from 2018 is the earliest the new gen has begun. Many people even consider 2019 as the beginning. Either way, I'm 100% sure golden Child are 3rd gen. Part of the last 3rd gen groups or the so called 3.5 gen groups

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It really doesn't. I personally don't like The Boyz being 4th gen either. I feel like the 2017 groups (Golden Child, ONF, The Boyz, A.C.E.) all mark the end of the 3rd gen even if some of them have gone on to incorporate things from the 4th gen.

I once saw a comment that said "yall call any group that doesn't outdo the top 3rd gen groups 4th gen in order to make them look better", and I keep thinking about that.

The reason I see TBZ as 4th gen is because they got rookie awards along with SKZ and Gidle.

ONF and Golden Child were eligible for ROTY when Wanna One debuted, so any chance at getting big was snuffed.

I would say 3.5, but if you round a decimal number to the nearest whole number, it always rounds up, therefore any 3.5 Gen croups will be 4th gen by default

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I would say 3.5, but if you round a decimal number to the nearest whole number, it always rounds up, therefore any 3.5 Gen croups will be 4th gen by default

but if you truncate a decimal number to the nearest whole number, it always rounds down, so it really depends on your personal opinion of when 3rd gen ends and 4th gen starts

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but if you truncate a decimal number to the nearest whole number, it always rounds down, so it really depends on your personal opinion of when 3rd gen ends and 4th gen starts

Not if the decimal number is half way or higher, so anything .5 or higher will always rounder up. 3.5 +

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Not if the decimal number is half way or higher, so anything .5 or higher will always rounder up. 3.5 +

again, that's only if you decide to round. whether you're rounding 3.1 or 3.9, it will always be 4 but if you truncate 3.9, it would still be 3 so that's not a valid argument unless everyone agrees that we have to round all non-whole numbers

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again, that's only if you decide to round. whether you're rounding 3.1 or 3.9, it will always be 4 but if you truncate 3.9, it would still be 3 so that's not a valid argument unless everyone agrees that we have to round all non-whole numbers

Yeah, but that method is barely used in anything other than computing, programme and softwares. Rounding is used in majority things including accounting, finance, maths, economics, day to day profiting etc... also rounding is clearly the fairer as it has both opportunities to round either up or down, depending on the decimal numbers, whereas truncate only decreases to the whole number, again hence why it's not very accurate and doesn't give the best approximation to the original number.

gen 3.5 does exist though

in my personal opinion any late 2017/4th quarter (Oct-Dec) can also be counted as 4th gen

since they debuted in august i personally dont see them as 4th gen

Gen 3.0 (2012-2014)-Exo, BTS, Mamamoo....

Gen 3.5 (2015-2017)-Twice, Seventeen, Blackpink, NCT...

Gen 4.0 (2018-present)-(G)i-dle, TXT, Aespa.....

they are 3rd gen, 4th gen start in 2018.

the boyz are called 4th gen because they debuted in December 2017 and were counted for 2018 rookie award.

Every other group that debuted in 2017 is 3rd gen.

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therefore any 3.5 Gen croups will be 4th gen by default

But using that logic, groups such as Seventeen and iKon would also be considered Fourth Generation, which doesn't make sense. See below: