TBH i dont care if teens VOLUNTARILY talk about sex in general. Literally half of those having sex are minors ffs (avg age for first time sex is 18). We learned about that stuff at age 12 in school and all of us were going through puberty by then. Everyone talked about it, joked about it, etc, we were all experiencing massive hormonal changes at the same time. More than half my friend group had had intimate relationships by the time we graduated HS.
OTOH, i understand the outrage over Cookie. First of all, this wasnt the girls' idea, it was a song foisted on them by MHJ. If the girls wanted to talk about sex, fine, but i dont think this is what happened. Secondly, MHJ trying to portray "cookies" as a metaphor for "albums" and then gaslighting folks who were questioning this BS narrative....it was just nutjobby of her. When Danielle sings "looking at my cookie" while staring at the camera, who in their right mind would believe she was talking about her effing CD?
Then you add in all her questionable art, her Euro Lolita movie posters from 70 years ago that she had to scour the entire Internet to somehow get....girl is just WEIRD WEIRD WEIRD.
And now it seems like she didnt want Chaewon and Sakura because they were too old for her concepts. I mean this wasnt hard to guess, for a woman obsessed with youth, a 22 year old Chaewon and a 24 year old Sakura would seem like literal ahjumma to her lol.
It was weird then. And it's still weird now. Except some of those who defended her/the song then will probably now say it's good she might be gone so they can keep her creepy tendencies away from the girls.
Display MoreTBH i dont care if teens VOLUNTARILY talk about sex in general. Literally half of those having sex are minors ffs (avg age for first time sex is 18). We learned about that stuff at age 12 in school and all of us were going through puberty by then. Everyone talked about it, joked about it, etc, we were all experiencing massive hormonal changes at the same time. More than half my friend group had had intimate relationships by the time we graduated HS.
OTOH, i understand the outrage over Cookie. First of all, this wasnt the girls' idea, it was a song foisted on them by MHJ. If the girls wanted to talk about sex, fine, but i dont think this is what happened. Secondly, MHJ trying to portray "cookies" as a metaphor for "albums" and then gaslighting folks who were questioning this BS narrative....it was just nutjobby of her. When Danielle sings "looking at my cookie" while staring at the camera, who in their right mind would believe she was talking about her effing CD?
Then you add in all her questionable art, her Euro Lolita movie posters from 70 years ago that she had to scour the entire Internet to somehow get....girl is just WEIRD WEIRD WEIRD.
And now it seems like she didnt want Chaewon and Sakura because they were too old for her concepts. I mean this wasnt hard to guess, for a woman obsessed with youth, a 22 year old Chaewon and a 24 year old Sakura would seem like literal ahjumma to her lol.
The dangerous part, is that eventually the NJ girls will also get to old for her "concept"
Song isn't even good.
The dangerous part, is that eventually the NJ girls will also get to old for her "concept"
+1000 for best post of the day.
That's why those shooting for MHJ genuinely (not talking about anti LSRFM, anti IIIIT, anti Hybe trolls or fans of rival groups token stanning her to hate on Hybe artists lol) are just insanely naive.
She is OBSESSED with youth. At some point the girls are gonna grow too old for her preferences. Imagine in an alternate universe if MHJ somehow broke free and started her own label and got NJ to come onboard. Imagine 3 years from now, all the members are in their 20s, all completely dependent on her. And then she wants to start her next GG with a group that look like they're all 15-16. What's going to happen to NJ?
As shitty as JYP, YG, SM are, you dont see them abandoning their female idols who turn 20, 25, some are making it to 30 and beyond and still actively promoting.
Would MHJ do the same for NJ? Would 26 year old Minji fit her concepts? 
The dangerous part, is that eventually the NJ girls will also get to old for her "concept"
Yep, I thought the same thing since day one. Youthfulness is a tricky concept because you can't run with it for long.
As for Cookie, I don't know. I think deviance is in the eye of the beholder as well. If you choose to take the official interpretation at face value, then the song is not much of a problem. Fine, cookies are CDs, I suppose it makes sense.
so to try it out, first let's replace cookie with CD, then let's replace Cookie with @#$%
https://genius.com/Genius-english-translations-newjeans-cookie-english-translation-lyrics
[Intro]
Yeah
[Verse 1: Hyein, Hanni]
Made a little CD
Baked it just for you
But you know that it ain't for free, yeah
Made a little CD
It’s too soft
Can't stop thinking about it
[Pre-Chorus: Danielle, Minji]
With chocolate chips, you know
I wanna sprinkle all over
I want to make you lose your appetite
I'm hiding it, but I want to see you more
If you want it, you can get it, if you want it
Let me hear your voice again, boy
[Chorus: Haerin, Hyein, Minji, Hanni, *Danielle*]
No dinner, dinner, you’re hungry though
No water, water, you're thirsty though
Only sweet flavors, only desserts
That's how you like it, ain't that right?
No dinner, dinner, you're hungry though
No water, water, you're thirsty though
*Only sweet flavors, only desserts*
That's how you like it, ain't that right?
[Verse 2: Haerin, Danielle]
Made a little CD
Your poison
I’ll melt your heart away
So good, yeah
Looking at my CD
Do you ever smell it different? (Taste it)
What’s with a bite isn't enough?
[Pre-Chorus: Hanni, Minji]
With chocolate chips, you know
I wanna sprinkle all over
I want to make you lose your mind
I’m hiding it, but I want to see you more
If you want it, you can get it, if you want it
Let me hear your voice again, boy
[Chorus: Haerin, Hyein, Minji, Hanni, *Danielle*]
No dinner, dinner, you're hungry though
No water, water, you're thirsty though
Only sweet flavors, only desserts
That's how you like it, ain’t that right?
No dinner, dinner, you're hungry though
No water, water, you're thirsty though
*Only sweet flavors, only desserts*
That's how you like it, ain't that right?
[Bridge: Haerin, Danielle, Hanni, Minji]
(Yeah, yo)
Bet you know, bet you know, bet you know I
Make recipes that you won't see anywhere else, boy
Take it, don't break it, I wanna see you taste it
Sugar, got sugar
Spare nothing when I bake it
(Yeah, yo)
Bet you know, bet you know, bet you know I
I want to mess up your diet
Take it, don't break it, I wanna see you taste it
Sugar, got sugar
Bet you want some
[Chorus: Danielle, Hyein, Minji, Hanni, *Haerin*]
No dinner, dinner, you're hungry though
No water, water, you're thirsty though
Sweet sugar, my my, dessert, my my
That's how you like it, ain't that right? (Yeah, yo)
No dinner, dinner, you're hungry though (Yeah, yo)
No water, water, you're thirsty though
*Sweet sugar, my my, dessert, my my*
That's how you like it, ain't that right?
[Refrain]
Yeah, yo
Yeah, yo
Mm-mm, mm-mm
Yeah, yo
Yeah, yo
Mm-mm, mm-mm
[Outro: Hyein, Haerin, Minji, Danielle]
Made a little CD
Come and take a lookie
Only at my house, come over and play
I'll bake it for you daily
But I wouldn't know
If you'll get a cavity
Made a little CD
Come and take a lookie
Only at my house, come over and play
I'll bake it for you daily
But I wouldn't know
If you'll get a cavity
-------------------------------------------------------------------------
[Intro]
Yeah
[Verse 1: Hyein, Hanni]
Made a little @#$%
Baked it just for you
But you know that it ain't for free, yeah
Made a little @#$%
It’s too soft
Can't stop thinking about it
[Pre-Chorus: Danielle, Minji]
With chocolate chips, you know
I wanna sprinkle all over
I want to make you lose your appetite
I'm hiding it, but I want to see you more
If you want it, you can get it, if you want it
Let me hear your voice again, boy
[Chorus: Haerin, Hyein, Minji, Hanni, *Danielle*]
No dinner, dinner, you’re hungry though
No water, water, you're thirsty though
Only sweet flavors, only desserts
That's how you like it, ain't that right?
No dinner, dinner, you're hungry though
No water, water, you're thirsty though
*Only sweet flavors, only desserts*
That's how you like it, ain't that right?
[Verse 2: Haerin, Danielle]
Made a little @#$%
Your poison
I’ll melt your heart away
So good, yeah
Looking at my @#$%
Do you ever smell it different? (Taste it)
What’s with a bite isn't enough?
[Pre-Chorus: Hanni, Minji]
With chocolate chips, you know
I wanna sprinkle all over
I want to make you lose your mind
I’m hiding it, but I want to see you more
If you want it, you can get it, if you want it
Let me hear your voice again, boy
[Chorus: Haerin, Hyein, Minji, Hanni, *Danielle*]
No dinner, dinner, you're hungry though
No water, water, you're thirsty though
Only sweet flavors, only desserts
That's how you like it, ain’t that right?
No dinner, dinner, you're hungry though
No water, water, you're thirsty though
*Only sweet flavors, only desserts*
That's how you like it, ain't that right?
[Bridge: Haerin, Danielle, Hanni, Minji]
(Yeah, yo)
Bet you know, bet you know, bet you know I
Make recipes that you won't see anywhere else, boy
Take it, don't break it, I wanna see you taste it
Sugar, got sugar
Spare nothing when I bake it
(Yeah, yo)
Bet you know, bet you know, bet you know I
I want to mess up your diet
Take it, don't break it, I wanna see you taste it
Sugar, got sugar
Bet you want some
[Chorus: Danielle, Hyein, Minji, Hanni, *Haerin*]
No dinner, dinner, you're hungry though
No water, water, you're thirsty though
Sweet sugar, my my, dessert, my my
That's how you like it, ain't that right? (Yeah, yo)
No dinner, dinner, you're hungry though (Yeah, yo)
No water, water, you're thirsty though
*Sweet sugar, my my, dessert, my my*
That's how you like it, ain't that right?
[Refrain]
Yeah, yo
Yeah, yo
Mm-mm, mm-mm
Yeah, yo
Yeah, yo
Mm-mm, mm-mm
[Outro: Hyein, Haerin, Minji, Danielle]
Made a little @#$%
Come and take a lookie
Only at my house, come over and play
I'll bake it for you daily
But I wouldn't know
If you'll get a cavity
Made a little @#$%
Come and take a lookie
Only at my house, come over and play
I'll bake it for you daily
But I wouldn't know
If you'll get a cavity
Which one sounds more logical, I guess reading it like that, since they are talking about making it, then CD does sound logical, if they had gone with I have a little cookie, that would have been more problematic.
still an unconfortable song from minors 
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