i don't relate to people of the same ethnicity of me, and U ?

  • So i know that this thread might trigger some people, and i can already feel some people will rush in this thread and tell me things like " no it should be this, you shouldn't think this..."

    but honestly i rarely see people talking about this in real life, or even in articles


    so i'm writing this hoping that other people might also feel the same :holding-back-tears:



    So to give a little background i'm metis from a black dad , and a white arabic mom, so my family are mostly muslim ( Yeah, i really won the lottery for racism ^^^^)


    and i just don't relatee to my family mentality neither other people of my ethnicity


    for example i'm metis, and i saw a lot of people talking about the racism they face because of their skin color, and i truly understand that racism is disgusting

    but how can i say this, i don't "relate" to their anecdote about racism, i understand them, i understand their feeling and i totally relate to how they feel

    but like i feel i can not really take part to their discussion when they talk about this subject, just because i never faced racism

    i never got pulled over by police because of my skin color

    i never got any remark about it etc....

    so i feel like even if we share a lot of things in common, we have a great discussion, their discussion about this subject are always the most heated, and the longest, and i always feel kinda left apart from them because i don't feel relevant to taking part in this discussion



    and My mom grew up in algeria, so she's very focus on religion and my younger brother too

    so they love to go in algeria because all the rest of my family live there, because they feel at home because people have the same "life" than them

    and My mom is always telling me how she wants to go to algeria this summer, and my brother is going too and asking me if i'm going to come with them too because it's been years since i went here

    and i always answer with a very unclear answer like " hmm, maybe i don't know with job etc..." and i always tell her the same thing every year


    but how do you say to your parents that even if you like your family, you don't want to go there because you feel like you're getting choked when you're here

    because you don't feel free to dress like you want because people are very conservative there

    you don't feel at ease being surrounded by your family, because your always afraid to do a bad move and they judge you in silence or that they see your tatoos and you have to answer all their judgment and questions


    or how you don't want to go too because like with most arabic people, you don't have a lot of things in common with your family there, so you doesn't really have anything to talk about with them besides "hello, how are you"


    and i'm not trying to generalize every arabic people, i get along with some of them

    but a lot of arabic people i know, have grow in muslim family, with very conservative point of view from their parents and because of this they kinda have the same speech and opinions than their parents


    and as an arabic person too who grew up in a muslim family too, my mom never liked forced me to pray, learn the language etc..

    and even if i grew up with my parents pushing down my throat some very conservative opinions

    most of my friends were "occidental" people who didn't have the same view of life, so it quickly change my view on things and i start to more question my parents and most arabic people point of view


    so most of thee time i can't make friends with otheer arabic people just because i know that our opinions about LGBTQ+ rights will clash and i have some lgbtq friends so hearing some of them, trashtalk the gay community just make me mad

    i also hate how some of them even if they grew up in this country are always criticize every little things and always go "in algeria it's better because...."



    Like i truly don't relate to people from the same ethnicity from me, and tbh even if i'm proud of the person i am and i stand for my opinion and the values i have

    i must admit that sometimes, i also want to feel this feeling of belonging to a "tribe", like when i see my brother or my mom making friends with other arabic person and act like they know for years just because they are arabic and can understand each other perfectly







    and i just want to precise that it's just my opinion, and my feelings

    and i'm sorry if some of the things came out as rude or else, i tried to explain myself the best, but even if i tried english is not my mother language so i bet my thoughts would not come out as well than i would

    and i respect every opinion even if you disagree with me or agree, i just wanted to share my feelings because i never see people talking about this, and i really hope i'm not the only perso who feel this way :/

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  • I understand what you mean, and relate. My mom is black and my dad is indian, growing up I looked more like my mom, so my family on my dad's side never really liked me, they always paid more attention to my sister who had lighter skin, I never felt like I belonged or felt connected to my indian family or culture. I get what you mean by feeling out of place with family, my family (mom's side) are very homophobic and traditional, I don't even like any of my cousins or uncles, maybe some aunts, but I never grew up close to my grandparents or any relative. about the racism aspect, I never really faced outward racism in life, never had anyone call me the n-word, or had anyone make fun of me for my darker skin, it's mostly because where I live, everybody is poc, and there's not a lot of white people so nobody really cares if your mixed, black, asian, etc.


    but growing up I never felt like I fit in with any of the kids that were black, I always felt like I just looked weird, but that might just be a me thing. It's okay not to feel like you fit in with your ethnicity, and yeah, it is hard feeling like you don't connect with your culture, hell, I want to connect with my Indian culture so bad, but it's just not me...it doesn't feel 'normal' because I wasn't raised to be connected to my culture, black or Indian, but it doesn't make you any less of what you are, there's no shame in that. That's just my 2 cents, I don't get why people put pressure on others to be connected or to relate to their culture, not everyone is defined by where they are from, or where their parents are from. Sometimes you just are who you are, and that's okay too.

  • I'll preface this by stating that I am a white male, as I am sure most know.

    So most of this is unknown to me.


    But maybe the reason why you don't feel you are part of it is because you are a combination of the two.

    I would find others who are of mixed ethnicity and figure out who you are based on them, instead of your family.


    We are all unique after all, but finding somebody whom you can share the burden with is a good avenue to follow.

  • It makes no sense to get stuck on one ethnicity. As ethnicities are fluid and evolve over time. A few men in power made up new labels and forced everyone else to follow.

  • I pretty much feel alot like you


    I am of middle eastern background. Despite people loving to deny it, sexism is very rampant and ingrained in middle eastern culture and mentality. As a woman I dont feel at home in a community who sets you at a step below bc of genital you are born with.


    I also disagree with the idea that the culture/religion/ethnicity that you are born into should be the most important part of everyone's identity. This is probably seen as a problematic opinion by most people online.


    I rather be my own person than just blend into mentality of community I had no say in being part of

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  • It's okay not to feel like you fit in with your ethnicity, and yeah, it is hard feeling like you don't connect with your culture, hell, I want to connect with my Indian culture so bad, but it's just not me...it doesn't feel 'normal' because I wasn't raised to be connected to my culture, black or Indian, but it doesn't make you any less of what you are, there's no shame in that. That's just my 2 cents, I don't get why people put pressure on others to be connected or to relate to their culture, not everyone is defined by where they are from, or where their parents are from. Sometimes you just are who you are, and that's okay too.


    I also disagree with the idea that the culture/religion/ethnicity that you are born into should be the most important part of everyone's identity. This is probably seen as a problematic opinion by most people online.


    I rather be my own person than just blend into mentality of community I had no say in being part of


    that's really nice to see people who also feel the same thing


    and i agree that trying to be identify by our ethnicity/culture or religion is so dumb

    and i'm glad i passed this times where i was doing everything i can to try to fit in with people of my ethnicity and not being able to find true finds to who i can identify to


    and I'm actually so proud of the person i turn out to be, because getting away of the mindset that people from my ethnicity have, helped me to meet so many people from different background, to not be afraid of trying new things and see new places


    but i can't deny that i also sometimes would love to know what it feels to have people from your ethnicity to who you relate and can feel close

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  • You are a real ass bitch for posting this thread.


    I can relate. I’m fully African American but I don’t relate to a lot of my community. I can’t imagine how you must have felt growing up in a blended family.

    God why.

  • I'll add my $0.02


    I'm ethnically Chinese but was raised and grew up in Australia


    Like you OP I don't fit neatly into either category in terms of identity which is the crux of what I think you are getting at...


    to my Aussie friends I'm too chinese for them

    to my Chinese friends I'm too "white" lol


    I'm Chinese Australian and my lived experiences and language and culture and upbringing and family and everything results in my identity...


    for you OP it's sorta the same you don't fit neatly into box A or B or C etc etc - you as a result of your own lived experiences which differentiates you from all of the boxes - you are your own person and (if you haven't already) have your own identity separate and inclusive all of those boxes...


    you are metis, you are arabic, you are algerian, you are muslim, you are etc etc but you are also none of those things at the same time - As Aristotle said The Whole (you) is more than the sum of it's parts

  • I've come to conclusion over the years that people treat you based on what they assume you are by your appearance. That has a profound influence on you when you grow up. My family is mixed - asian, black and white - has been for generations (for instance both of my parents are mixed too) and as a result, some of us favor one ethnicity over another. Our life experiences and how we interact has been influenced by how the world perceives us. My darker cousins grew up with experiences closer to other black people while others who favor the asian side have more experiences that mirror what they call the "model minority". Unsurprisingly our more white looking cousins grew up with that white privilege too.


    My point is that no one is really the same "ethnicity". It's only based on what society perceives and treats you as, rather that based on what you actually "are". What you have in common with others that "look" like you is because of what society pushes on us. As we must live in society, there's almost no way to escape this.

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