With Idols getting dragged for their live vocals recently… Should music shows remove Encores ?

No lol why remove something that's not even the issue here, what will be next? Stop music festivals?

Agencies need to spend some dime and time on the vocal training instead.

No, it wouldn't be fun 😂

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Well there are radio shows or unplugged shows where you could do that. In these cases you actually prepare to sing live.

not all radio shows are live singing

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Additionally, it's disheartening to observe how anxious some idols appear after winning because they are afraid to mess up vocals. And now they even come out to apologize afterwards.

Idk, idols who know how to sing still have plenty of fun during encores. I see idols having fun more often than not.

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less surgery more vocal lessons pls

Surgeries take long time to recover

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Lip syncing on radio shows is crazy to me. I can understand at concerts for a few songs especially with heavy choreography (even here I prefer if they perform with backtrack instead of complete lip syncing)… but radio show ?

because labels know they can get away with it

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Unfortunately, many groups have exposed their vocal limitations during encores, resulting in significant criticism, sometimes to the extent that it negatively impacted their careers.

While it's understandable that Kpop fans shouldn't expect Adele or Whitney Houston-level vocals from idols, there is a reasonable expectation that they should be able to perform the songs they recorded in the studio. Some may attribute poor singing to exhaustion, but it's noteworthy that not all groups struggle vocally after intense choreography. This suggests that those who struggle significantly may already have weaker vocal abilities.

Additionally, it's disheartening to observe how anxious some idols appear after winning because they are afraid to mess up vocals. And now they even come out to apologize afterwards.

Do you believe it would be better to remove encores altogether or, at the very least, remove the requirement to sing live?

Instead, allowing idols to express gratitude to their fans or engage with them in other ways after a win might spare many groups, especially newer generations, from exposing their vocal weaknesses.

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this is my take on encore , u cannot possible based an idol's vocal capability purely on music show encores esp since it used to be fun and shldnt be taken seriously. its like believing mr remove is real. i think there is just this unusual media coverage over hating on hybe. makes me wonder if kakao media owned co is behind it. 😂. so much knetz this & that snd yet their songs are thriving in kcharts- illit, le ssera, tws. Anyways, bear in mind idols basically do music shows for free -- they shld not take so much effort tbh esp they usually lack sleep and not every grp promote as much as the others. there are many other activities that u can measure someone's vocal ability -- they do it in wv live or wtv medium they use. u can also check concerts when idols sang a cappela. or even some other guestings. u cannot just pt out music show encores as if its the only way to measure their ability😂

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Let me throw what seems like a crazy idea for kpop stans recently

WHAT ABOUT BRINGING REAL KPOP BACK

I'm talking about a time where idols were trained to be SINGER, DANCER, PERFORMER, ACTOR AND VARIETY SHOW STARS

I'm not saying that every idols use to sing like whitney houston or used to dance like the twins

But an era where even if you would put the weakest vocalist on stage during an encore stage or after 30 min of performance they would still sound like they did 30 minutes ago

I mean yoona was never a strong vocalist and was always call a very weak vocalist but you never saw her in a singing controversy even after 15years of activity

They were not strong vocalist but they were always stable vocalist

Kpop fans especially international kpop fans have lower and lower their standard to protect their favs and give them a free pass to not hold them accountable for the mistake they do on stage.

And to me kpop idols are slowly turning into jpop idols

Because what used to differenciate them is that kpop used the same things than kpop but added the focus on skills that's why they took off and kpop idols were seen as "too perfect " before

But now we are in an era where kpop idols are turning into jpop, where they no longer focus on the skills, but where the performance and having fun on stage is being the #1 aspect to the detriment of singing, dancing etc....

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there is a reason why those old idols never made it globally. bec kpop is abt having charisma first. then have some decent talent. thats it. kpop in the past while more talented cant really compete with western talent not even in other asian country bec no one really is spectacular both in talent, visual and performance wise. 3rd gen changed that- they brought kpop to have bigger audience globally. the only advantage kpop is more likeable now is bec they focus more in performance and looking good 😂

never understood why people glorify old kpop- 2nd gen & 1st gen . they are not appealing globally

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Surgeries take long time to recover

this isnt shade to lsfm its shade to the industry in general. Ik it probably sounded bad but that wasnt my intention. I just meant that companies will have their idols go through surgery before investing in vocal lessons

Hell no if your winning 1 on a music show at least hold a fucking a tune if not you shouldnt be winning.

nope

encore encore encore

if you don't want to sing one can always just play around with fans or do something else "fun"