Is the K-pop industry really ok for minors?

Nah, if OP is a hypocrite, everyone in this thread including me is one. The only way not to be a hypocrite is to not consume Kpop at all, since dollars going to support older groups is fungible and indirectly supports existing/pre-debut groups with minors.

As far as genuine concern for younger idols, I don't see mention of concern over the Lee Seung-Gi Act, which is a step towards more rights for artists vs. companies (financial transparency, restrictions on work hours for underage idols) which the Kpop industrial complex is finding a lot of new excuses to oppose. In fact, with supportive Knetz and a few on this thread that might chime in in support, it's sort of a given as the goalpost is now the return of full-on slave contracts.

Nope. They shouldn't even have trainees younger than 16 IMO.

Nope.

I side-eye and am disdainful of every supporter of a group who debuted with a minor (under 18) in it.

@op

its the kpop fans who stan those minors who cause the problem in the first place.

than those who voice the critics are usually hypocrits, since they only pay lip service, than buy the next ticket or album of a group with minors, while let fully capable and grown up idols like hyolyn flop all the time.

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Nah, if OP is a hypocrite, everyone in this thread including me is one. The only way not to be a hypocrite is to not consume Kpop at all, since dollars going to support older groups is fungible and indirectly supports existing/pre-debut groups with minors.

As far as genuine concern for younger idols, I don't see mention of concern over the Lee Seung-Gi Act, which is a step towards more rights for artists vs. companies (financial transparency, restrictions on work hours for underage idols) which the Kpop industrial complex is finding a lot of new excuses to oppose. In fact, with supportive Knetz and a few on this thread that might chime in in support, it's sort of a given as the goalpost is now the return of full-on slave contracts.

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no. i will keep throw my money at bb girls. Its the only way companies get a reason to start thinking about debuting groups without minors.

atm youth is so crucial to sales and success that, we dont even leave the companies a choice.

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Nope.

I side-eye and am disdainful of every supporter of a group who debuted with a minor (under 18) in it.

you should only look at yourself. you cant judge everyone since everyone is different. most kpop fans are children themself. you cant expect them to think about things like this.

Same goes for casual listener. They just listen to charts or what is trending. Why should they know the groups or the age of the members every time they listen to a song they like?

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Same goes for casual listener.

I don't count casual listeners. I'm not expecting every person whose streaming NJ (for example) to be checking on the group when it pops up on their spotify playlist etc - that's obviously silly. The disdain on that part is to the labels and companies that debut them.

I'm talking about the people here and other places who are adults and are self proclaimed 'fans' and stans of the group. They are not people fit for a progressive, civilized society.

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I don't count casual listeners. I'm not expecting every person whose streaming NJ (for example) to be checking on the group when it pops up on their spotify playlist etc - that's obviously silly. The disdain on that part is to the labels and companies that debut them.

I'm talking about the people here and other places who are adults and are self proclaimed 'fans' and stans of the group. They are not people fit for a progressive, civilized society.

the labels and companies only make money. its the fans who buy albums, merch and concert tickets.

if the so called progressive and civilized society have a lolita fetish, its as trashy as the people.

No

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Why would i care? I dont stan ggs

you should stan the bg.

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Umm i am a bg stan

Dont just stan any BG . Stan the BG. Brave Girls is the real BG.

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if a girl group did the same you would be ok with it?

I'm suddenly reminded of this

that song is a bop though.

Imo no part of the entertainment industry is ok for minors

universal ticket, here is what kpop fans want.

Of the 9 eliminated, 7 are adults and 2 are minors.
Of the survivors, 8 are adults and 22 are minors.

Smaller companies definitely no.

Big especially listed companies, there are more checks and balances, and the risk is worth the reward. e.g. the members of New Jeans.

It is a lot better now than 10 years ago. Minors can't work after certain times and how many hours they can work is dependent on age.

17 should be the cut off age for debuting. 14, 13, 12 is way too young.