Display MoreSomeone explain it to me like Im 5: Why cant kpop companies do concert organization in house?
Keep in mind I dont have alot of info regarding the regulations or how its done outside kpop
But it seems like all the event organizer companies that kpop companies hire are doing such a shit job??? why do they have to outsource this? why cant they have a in house division for it?
what stops big4 to organize their own concerts?
This is not my area but logically, it's like impossible for them to do so unless they want to expand their business in concert management.
-They need to hire a lot of workers that they need to pay for every month with a lot of benefits, which is more expensive than renting them. Not to mention concerts are not a monthly occasion so what does the employee do outside of it?
-They also have to provide their own equipment that needs to be well taken care of.
-It's expensive to bring your own team of more than 100 people to another country if their groups have tours abroad. Plus laws is always different in different countries.
Actually I have a lot more reasons why kpop companies just choose to hire an outside concert organizer instead of making it themselves. In conclusion, it's not worth it and just waste their time, resources and money.
Display MoreThis is not my area but logically, it's like impossible for them to do so unless they want to expand their business in concert management.
-They need to hire a lot of workers that they need to pay for every month with a lot of benefits, which is more expensive than renting them. Not to mention concerts are not a monthly occasion so what does the employee do outside of it?
-They also have to provide their own equipment that needs to be well taken care of.
-It's expensive to bring your own team of more than 100 people to another country if their groups have tours abroad. Plus laws is always different in different countries.
Actually I have a lot more reasons why kpop companies just choose to hire an outside concert organizer instead of making it themselves. In conclusion, it's not worth it and just waste their time, resources and money.
Hmmm
good points
Its just that the current organizers do such a shit job I wonder if there is a solution to that
It's simple really. It's much cheaper for the company i assume although i don't know the numbers.
Display MoreSomeone explain it to me like Im 5: Why cant kpop companies do concert organization in house?
Keep in mind I dont have alot of info regarding the regulations or how its done outside kpop
But it seems like all the event organizer companies that kpop companies hire are doing such a shit job??? why do they have to outsource this? why cant they have a in house division for it?
what stops big4 to organize their own concerts?
The overarching reason is cost. Running an event like a concert requires a huge amount of expertise if you want to get it right and you don't costly mistakes to happen. Having such a big team permanently on your payroll is just too expensive.
Usually there will be a concert promoter that will arrange and contract the artist via their management company. For example, this could be Live Nation or Coachella or for KCON you can look at their wiki and it will be one of the companies under organiser.
The promoter/organiser then pretty much arranges every thing that the artist requires on their contract, including contracting a venue, ticketing company, production company, marketing company, merch company, accommodation, travel etc. That can be further broken down and each of those companies may then sub-contract other companies to meet their obligations.
For example, production could contract out sound, lighting, stage build, visual effects etc. Venue could be responsible for food and beverage, staffing, logistics, local compliance, security. The ticketing company will often play a big role in marketing due to their large database of potential concert goers. The amount of staff involved already is a huge cost, no way a company can keep them all on their payroll. Even if you wanted to keep them casual it would be a huge task for a team to manage year round.
This is just for local concerts. Throw in overseas concerts and then you have local laws and compliance to meet. For example the equipment you use in Korea may not have the same power connections as in the US, or meet UK compliance. Licenses for your people may not be transferable across states let alone countries.
Freight logistics is also really expensive, especially internationally, so you may want to hire equipment locally, which could be different to what you normally use. So you need local crew to install and use. You'll want someone who is familiar with industry rates, knows which suppliers are reliable and cost effective. Bear in mind you have a definite deadline and you can't generally push a concert back even a few hours due to technical issues. You have to get it right by the time the concert starts.
You also have to arrange accommodation, travel and food for anyone you bring across. Make sure they get there. So translators are required too. Dietary requirements for crew catering in addition to riders for the artist. With local crew you can just hire them for the hours that you need them.
Food and bev alone is a huge undertaking. How much do you order to avoid wastage and additional freight costs? Do you know the local demographics and their tendencies? Is the crowd gonna drink beer or wine or sparkling? Are they going to turn up late and cause bottle necks at entries to the venue. Or are they going to turn up early and hang around - do you need entertainment for theme etc.
Which is definitely not an explain like you're 5 lmao, and I'm only scratching the surface.
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