What makes Seventeen irrelevant compared to BTS/Twice/Blackpink/Exo?

It is really simple, they have more Chinese, Japanese and Korean fans who do not populate English speaking stan twitter or international Kpop spaces like AKP, etc. That is it, that is the only reason you do not see much discussion on them cause they do not have as many i fans (aka non East Asian fans) as other groups you mentioned.

they lack western fans that's the only difference

Seventeen are relevant

1. releasing bad title tracks

2. too many members

3. no fans in west compared to other groups

4. make too many photo cards killing the planet and trees (evil and sick)

5. not interesting

6. no identity musically

7. just exist

8. LOVE THEM THOUGH.

There is like no seventeen song I like. And I tried often to get into their songs. The other groups at least have a few songs I like. Still happy for their success. They work hard and deserve it.

imma gonna be k word because of this but all the people around me who stan them (I have met only 12-13 carats by the way) are carats because of their variety content mostly without knowing anything about their music.

They don't have much stans in west because I think their music is not the type of music which west likes, and western stans creates the most hype on social media.

But they do have a very large fandom in Korea and China which is increasing day by day if you see the amount of trending post they have on Korean forums so they are good for life.

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There is like no seventeen song I like. And I tried often to get into their songs. The other groups at least have a few songs I like. Still happy for their success. They work hard and deserve it.

Not even left and right. That song is a bop though

the only time I heard people discussing their music was when they realized left & right and when one of their member(?) released a solo

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Not even left and right. That song is a bop though

No sadly not.

I don't think Chinese speakers matter that much in most countries.

Chinese pop culture is not as influential as Korean pop culture abroad, partly because of the heavy censorship and not being on 'our' social media.

Don't know why they are not that relevant in the West (yet?).

Maybe 13 members is too much. I've even seen people bitch about Kpop having too many members when it concerns groups like BTS and they only have 7 members.

I think the number of members is a bit of an impediment for me as well. I think 9 is the max for me too stan and even then I'm bad with names.

The guys seem nice and I often thought I want to get into the group more, but haven't so far.

I think their music is the kind of music that's more for korea, japan and china etc. Public friendly but too safe/chill or a bit forgettable and them having many members plays a role. Their style is objectively better than most boygroups, so most people won't mind listening to their songs but don't actively search for it except a few.

Has Seventeen had a legitimate hit song?

I just checked my "The Most Successful Artists of All-Time on Melon" thread from last July, and they were only ranked 233rd according to my calculations.

There's too many members.

Too many members is the main reason. Also, their discography is okay but no offense, neither their music or any of the members stand out too much compared to other 3rd gen's major acts.

Irrelevant where? West?

I would say too many members as well, I like some of their songs like clap and just nice. Checked them out several times but can't really get into them .

what are you talking about???

Seventeen is HUGE. are you living under a rock? they just became the first group to sell over 4 million in their first week.

Seventeen's 'FML' becomes first K-Pop album to exceed 4 million sales in first week of release

Seventeen's latest album rapidly sold over 4 million copies!According to Hanteo chart, 'FML' accumulated over a whopping 3.99 million copi…

www.allkpop.com

they had a nearly sold out tour in the US - had to cancel their sold out tour in Europe cus of covid and they need to go back..

idk why you'd think they're irrelevant. they're one of THE hottest group out there right now.

For a group with so many "record-breaking" achievements, they're largely ignorable.

Way too many members; no group needs that many, I truly don't believe so. What's the use of so many in one group?

Their songs are pretty unremarkable. One or two might stand out but I don't think it's due to them necessarily; those songs could literally be from any other group.

I just don't see what's so special about this group. And that's okay too. They're not for me.

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There is like no seventeen song I like. And I tried often to get into their songs. The other groups at least have a few songs I like. Still happy for their success. They work hard and deserve it.

I dont stan Seventeen but Hot is a bop.