So now that all is said and done, post come back is NewJeans the top of 4th Gen?

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Not comeback they need to be successful for more than a year.

Even if they retire or crash and burn now. They have already cemented as one of the top of 4th gen.

Don't think people realized they already achieved most of the milestones. They have not one but 2 million seller albums, song with the most PAKS (beating BTS), multiple songs charting no.1, charting on Top 100 USA and global billboard and even won a daesang.

No other 4th gen groups have achieved all of these and I don't see how Baby Monster can beat this (likelihood is extremely low).

The tea is whoever had the latest comeback will be the top

I do think they have a high chance, probably the highest so far of scoring many awards at year end shows because they started the year really strong and have the entire year to accumulate digital points.

Unless another group overtakes them, like how Love Dive did for TOMBOY (which was released 1 month earlier than Love Dive)

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Unless another group overtakes them

I don't think that'll be possible. Only something like Gangnam style or Dynamite can overtake their releases. Which is a once in a decade thing.

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Even if they retire or crash and burn now. They have already cemented as one of the top of 4th gen.

Don't think people realized they already achieved most of the milestones. They have not one but 2 million seller albums, song with the most PAKS (beating BTS), multiple songs charting no.1, charting on Top 100 USA and global billboard and even won a daesang.

No other 4th gen groups have achieved all of these and I don't see how Baby Monster can beat this (likelihood is extremely low).

No.

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I don't think that'll be possible. Only something like Gangnam style or Dynamite can overtake their releases. Which is a once in a decade thing.

are you setting them up please stop

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No

Keep burying your head in the sand.

NewJeans's 'OMG' hits a new peak at #74 on Billboard's 'Hot 100'

NewJeans has once again broken their own highest ranking on the Billboard 'Hot 100'.According to the latest chart released by Billboard on Februar…

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are you setting them up please stop

Setting what up? The only thing left for them to prove is longevity and that is a 7+ yrs thing. Waiting 1-2 yrs won't change anything.

I'm gonna wait to see if Ditto/OMG will survive April by staying in the top 10 when all NewJeans competitors will be coming back.

like every single is xyz the top group thread

criteria and data and metrics matter and the weightings to those matter

let's just look at one aspect of "metrics" album sales

what sales? per album? per cb? total sales? sales per year? sales per month?

what about different prices? then do we look at total revenue? total profit?

What’s ridiculous is that people had been saying izone is the 4th gen leader when obviously that wasn’t gonna be the case. Their popularity outside Asia was never enough to be called a leader. It’s not as if they had much chance to grow either, having to disband at the time 3rd gen groups were on their peak/ yet to be on their peak. Since we’re in the middle of 4th gen however and they do well in every metric, newjeans actually has a good chance. It’ll be them, Ive or babymonster. I don’t think it’s gonna be babymonster personally but they have a chance coming from yg

theres baby monsters

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Keep burying your head in the sand.

https://www.allkpop.com/articl…-74-on-billboards-hot-100

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Setting what up? The only thing left for them to prove is longevity and that is a 7+ yrs thing. Waiting 1-2 yrs won't change anything.

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No.

Wait and see op

They already surpassed almost all milestones set by other 4th gen groups and even earlier gens. What's next? Do they need to perform on the moon for people to acknowledge their success?