They sold 440k already in 3 days. They definitely able to reach more than 700k on the day of release.
They have 4 promoted song. Hype Boy, Attention, Hurt and their title track is definitely going to do well on chart.
200k uls is around 13M on Gaon Chart.
If all of their song reached 300k uls which I think they can get more to that. 20 x 4 = 80M digital a week and if they continue to get over 80M every week then 12 x 80 = 960M digital which is very close to IVE number in just 4 months.
All the maths 
Let's not jinx it.
Not happening
but they release the songs way too late so it kinda spoils the songs. i think only the last title track will do well on charts because it's new
Nah for digitals, aren't the releases coming a week after their last title track MV? Should've released the digitals on the day of the Cookie MV.
Nah for digitals, aren't the releases coming a week after their last title track MV? Should've released the digitals on the day of the Cookie MV.
the digitals will come on the same day as cookie mv. the physicals will come a week late
Melon roty definitely goes to IVE. Yk? Melon, Kakao, Starship...
Mama: If NJ wins, kpop stans gonna drag them and hybe to hell for rigging
So Golden Disk is the only "prestigious" award left and i think they have high chances to get it beside IVE
There is still KMA roty but we have to wait for the reviews from the korean critics and the impact of their songs on gp
I don't understand how people don't see the different.
The different is that all of their song is promoted and have a MV ,and they have been promoting NewJeans in a different way than other so "that's not how digital sales work" may not applied to this group.
If they are going for the same marketing and promoting than other then I agree with you, they won't catch up with digital.
However, if all of their song can chart then they can catchup.
If all of their song reach 200k uls on Melon then it is around 13M gaon digital for one week. They have 4 songs.
4 x 13M = 52M a week. Even if they only have 12 weeks of tracking time, they can still possible to reach at least 500M before the tracking end.
I doubt but we will see.
Lmao, the only song that will reach more than 200k will be the title track, another bside could reach it with promo but that's it. Its extremely unlikely for any artist to have a hit album with their debut, even with just hype alone and if you follow charting extremely close you will notice that after 2020 the only ever 3 artists to pull out that were BTS, BP and IU.
This won't happen lol. All four won't cross 200k ULS. Ive will do near one billion lol.
Lmao, the only song that will reach more than 200k will be the title track, another bside could reach it with promo but that's it. Its extremely unlikely for any artist to have a hit album with their debut, even with just hype alone and if you follow charting extremely close you will notice that after 2020 the only ever 3 artists to pull out that were BTS, BP and IU.
but it look like, Koran is really hyped about this group and all of their track have been trending high in Korea YouTube. I have never seem any group is that hyped even from big company. I think they will be different.
Competition with all the rookies is really strong this year, makes things really unpredictable.
And fun for kpop fans.
ive's got 850M + gaon points. they will reach 1B by end then you add the other comeback. another chart topper for ive with this comeback they not competing for roty but grand prizes and Soty for love dive.
its very very hard to get 300k ULS. its not as easy as you make it out to be. simply saying 300k uls and then doing math is delusional.
So they saying that MMA could choose to give roty to 2 female groups if the male ones did too poorly 
damn all groups should debut december then. If they flop then they flop but if they don’t flop then they’re guaranteed to win this rookie award simply due to the fact that they’d existed the longest out of all the nominations and had more time to accumulate achievement stats lol it just seems really unfair that a group with an explosive debut release would lose out to a group that only did decently with their debut release but had more time to make more cbs later to accumulate their achievements and overall would have higher numbers due to the sheer amount of their cbs
you make no sense at all. do you even know how year end awards work. please educate yourself. your argument is dumb as hell.
imagine newjeans debuted at december and getting all these wins charting amazing and a follow up comeback which again top charts domestically and internationally with physicals to much and won more music show awards only to lose 3 months left of the year which you dominated for the most part only to become irrelevant because someone else debuted much later and fresh in the memory
damn all groups should debut december then. If they flop then they flop but if they don’t flop then they’re guaranteed to win this rookie award simply due to the fact that they’d existed the longest out of all the nominations and had more time to accumulate achievement stats lol it just seems really unfair that a group with an explosive debut release would lose out to a group that only did decently with their debut release but had more time to make more cbs later to accumulate their achievements and overall would have higher numbers due to the sheer amount of their cbs
then the awards wont be called year end awards if they don't track for the full year. why would someone who debuted so late win over someone who dominated from december to now. and they didnt do decently. dont even undermine what they did for a rookie group that smashed the charts everywhere. while yours still starting at 0 digitals and your already overachieving what they didnt accomplish yet base on speculation and pre order numbers
damn all groups should debut december then. If they flop then they flop but if they don’t flop then they’re guaranteed to win this rookie award simply due to the fact that they’d existed the longest out of all the nominations and had more time to accumulate achievement stats lol it just seems really unfair that a group with an explosive debut release would lose out to a group that only did decently with their debut release but had more time to make more cbs later to accumulate their achievements and overall would have higher numbers due to the sheer amount of their cbs
Bla bla. Not a single rookie GG have done better than eleven let’s alone love dive. It’s not unfair, they’re just behind IVE. You would think NJ got robbed for ROTY when they haven’t debuted and don’t have a hit yet. You’re really lost.
you make no sense at all. do you even know how year end awards work. please educate yourself. your argument is dumb as hell.
imagine newjeans debuted at december and getting all these wins charting amazing and a follow up comeback which again top charts domestically and internationally with physicals to much and won more music show awards only to lose 3 months left of the year which you dominated for the most part only to become irrelevant because someone else debuted much later and fresh in the memory
i didn’t even insinuate that new jeans is blowing ive’s debut out of the water lmao stop projecting. that was simply an example to illustrate what i mean, not that newjeans deserve to win over ive. yall ive stans are always so aggressive for no reason it’s such a turn off
anyway like i said this type of awarding system obviously favors groups that debut earlier and release more - that’s just a fact so i don’t know why yall acting like what i said was so outrageous lmao. you don’t think that’s unfair, fine, but don’t make it sound like groups that debut later in the year automatically should never have a chance for these awards simply because they debut at an arbitrary later date while groups debuting earlier (who don’t flop) deserves to win every time for a reason that has nothing to do with their performance and all to do with external circumstances
damn all groups should debut december then. If they flop then they flop but if they don’t flop then they’re guaranteed to win this rookie award simply due to the fact that they’d existed the longest out of all the nominations and had more time to accumulate achievement stats lol it just seems really unfair that a group with an explosive debut release would lose out to a group that only did decently with their debut release but had more time to make more cbs later to accumulate their achievements and overall would have higher numbers due to the sheer amount of their cbs
ive did great with eleven. i don't think new jeans would even reach eleven's peak and longevity with their debut song. say new jeans debuted earlier to make it fair, do you really think they would take over eleven + love dive's success? highly unlikely.
Then someone said it's not IVE's stan, just some chart obsessed people.
Meh, no need to argue. Award show will just award everyone they want. I already lost trust with award show. Let NJ or IVE win or maybe Le Sserafim will win, or maybe Kep1er. If only NJ from Mnet, then Mama will be theirs.
Do you think ROTY is unfair? All awards are unfair and have their own bias, sorry to burst your bubble
i didn’t even insinuate that new jeans is blowing ive’s debut out of the water lmao stop projecting. that was simply an example to illustrate what i mean, not that newjeans deserve to win over ive. yall ive stans are always so aggressive for no reason it’s such a turn off
anyway like i said this type of awarding system obviously favors groups that debut earlier and release more - that’s just a fact so i don’t know why yall acting like what i said was so outrageous lmao. you don’t think that’s unfair, fine, but don’t make it sound like groups that debut later in the year automatically should never have a chance for these awards simply because they debut at an arbitrary later date while groups debuting earlier (who don’t flop) deserves to win every time for a reason that has nothing to do with their performance and all to do with external circumstances
Yes, most award shows do full year tracking.. I mean it won't be a year unless they do count it.
Unfairness is inherent to the system - the monthly melon number 1s, only count the full month too - if you release halfway through the month, well tough luck.
Why do you think Aespa and StayC debuted in Nov? Why do you think IVE did? Why do you think Itzy debuted in Feb?
It's simply the nature of the beast to track for a full year. Rookies and indeed songs can win from late releases, Ie (G)I-DLE won many ROTY from May, simply because none of the earlier debut's made any noise.
Groups that do really well always have a shot, but the problem is even if New Jeans do really well, they're up against the group who've also done just as well, and done it for the entire year. So naturally the award goes to the group who's performed at the high level for the entire year.
Is it a little bit unfair? Yes and No. Again it's a year award - of course they'd track the entire year. The tracking criteria has been the same for many, many years. Apparently now it's only a problem because it hurts someone's faves.
I mean we can’t see how newjeans will do on charts until monday so how could you so easily conclude that eleven will definitely do better? and if newjeans debuted earlier and had more releases who’s to say they can’t match ive’s performance? we can’t conclude anything yet so I don’t know why you’re so sure of your conclusion
i casually listen to all gg's. i'm not even an ive stan lol but it would be delusional to think ive can easily be beaten. how many rookies have done this numbers in the past, atleast digitally? only 2ne1 maybe? i'm only giving praise and credit to ive because the proof is there. you are overestimating a gg that has not debuted yet.
I mean we can’t see how newjeans will do on charts until monday so how could you so easily conclude that eleven will definitely do better? and if newjeans debuted earlier and had more releases who’s to say they can’t match ive’s performance? we can’t conclude anything yet so I don’t know why you’re so sure of your conclusion
ok. we'll see it on monday then
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