Posts by Dribble

  • Viviz concert ticket price is a lot more expensive than I thought.

    90-100 USD.


    I thought it would be around 40 Lol. But it make sense, it's a smaller venue and they're closer to the stage.


    With 3K capacity on each day and 6K attendance, they're going to make around 600K in revenue.


    If we do a little guesswork, after paying the venue, the sound engineers, the equipment, the choreographer, the dancers, the stage effect, the construction, the security etc.


    I'm guessing that they do make a little bit of money but not much. Which is fine, the point of the concert tour is I think to build engagement and connection with the fans before their comeback.


    Viviz will probably have their comeback right after the concert tour.


    It's good that they're putting real effort and money into making it a real concert though coz I've seen people complaining abt other group doing this type of tour and charging a concert price but it's not a concert perf.

  • Is Viviz gonna make any money with their concert?

    Those number are not possible with ticket alone.

  • Is Viviz gonna make any money with their concert?

    Quote from Tr12345

    They can't go on a world tour without considering profits. They're not from a well-established company that can throw around that much money just for exposure. They could incur a huge loss and risk losing their shareholders. As you said, it's not cheap. No matter what, Bpm will surely ensure they make profits out of it.

    They make enough to break even or make very little surplus.


    Concert are really not cheap and not as profitable as people think unless you're a heavy weight in pulling in viewers. This world tour in particular is obviously not made to earn money. At least not through it directly. The main purpose is definitely marketing and building relationships in hope for future profitability.

  • Is Viviz gonna make any money with their concert?

    Viviz has announced they'll be going on world tour starting with 2 days show in Seoul next month.


    Looking at the venue (KBS arena), I'm guessing that if they have a makeshift stage build in the middle, it can fit up to 2500 so 5000 in attendance.


    I don't think they'll make any money from this. I feel like there's this promotional trend of going on a world tour but it's definitely not for making money/profit from the concert.


    Idk if this type of marketing is effective, ARTMS had world tour even before their debut but it doesn't seem to do much for them.


    Kiss of Life also gonna held their first concert but with just a 300 capacity, I doubt they're gonna spend that much effort into it but it's definitely a weird new trend that im seeing with small company these day.

  • Jessica selling more than 50k on the first day is quite unexpected.

    This is more than her debut album at 21k on the first day.


    I means Jessica is iconic but she has been quite inactive and the view didn't even break a 100k yet.


    But I guess good for her, probably the Chinese money. With Love J. sold more than 100k so will this go up to 200k?


    Taeyeon is also averaging around 100-200k. That's probably their standard.


    But tbh I don't like the song so much probably bcause it has been done a lot before and the scene in it also has been done by Jessica multiple times, the playing with confetti, blowing cakes etc. It felt repetitive and nothing new.


    The song is good after a second listen tho.

  • Which is actually better? ads vs no ads.

    The thing is, i dont even feel like viviz is bigger than those group. recognition wise, probably vz is more well known but devotion wise.. these group that runs ads have more dedicated fandom than them but weirdly even after running ads, they're still not pulling much.


    make me wonder how bad it's gonna be without ads.

  • Which is actually better? ads vs no ads.

    When i look at certain group music video, the number are obviously inflated and doesn't fit the engagements on that video.


    aside from keeping up image so it doesn't look like you're flopping, does ads actually do anything?


    Im sure some do actually convert and check them out but does that means without ads, they'll be having less engagements? does it even worth the money?


    Comparing group like the boyz, oneus etc with like 20-30m views but their engagaments is not even up to par with group like viviz that have 8m views.


    When i look at group like Gidle, that's when i feel like its worth it but idk why other group are not up to par. probably just the music right.

  • It's amazing how 50k is enough to sustain a group.

    Just calculating how some group especially onlyoneof could stay active by selling 50-60k.


    conservative estimate that they made 15 in profit from each album sold, making them around 750k to 1M per comebck. If they do the 50-50 split, and then distribute to 6 members, they each would make 65k USD a year.


    they had an average 1 comeback per year, and spend most of the year doing event and concert.


    they probably raised money to make a cb by doing those gigs, they do YT live a lots too which have the donation features on, I've seen their live and they probably make around 5-15k per live.


    and now they're also venturing into acting as a whole group in a upcoming kbl. idk how much they're getting paid for it tho.

  • Irene is lowkey over

    Quote from Polarize

    This is K-pop and Korea for you.


    By the time Koreans begin to forgive Irene she becomes irrelevant because so many 4th g idols have passed her by.

    yeah but if that scandal didn't happen then she would probably be worshipped by the media even now and her visual would probably be praised until the next decade but her light just look dimmer now.


    it's like people dont care abt her anymore.

  • Irene is lowkey over

    I thought there's a chance for her to return to her former glory but it like everything is real quiet.


    after getting back to socmed, there's some people showing support but as time goes by.. less and less people talk about. Her engagement rate on socmed is going down too.


    Her insta follower platued and likes has reach below 1m.


    the media has not been talking abt her anymore.


    Somehow irene focusing on trying to be a nice person didn't do well for her. So pretty much reinventing herself didn't work.


    but on the bright side, people opinion on her are not so bad anymore and she could face the world without shame.


    It's just her returning to her former status might not be attainable.

  • BOP vs FLOP : VIVIZ 'LOVEADE' + Comeback Discussion

    I got headache listening to it without earphones and i thought that there's just too much korean lyrics, i cant follow along in any parts.


    it sound better with my earphones on tho, love the beat. Not sure with the whole song yet.


    but it seems like they're making some good result so far, trending everywhere and #1 worldwide, pulling in a better album number in just a few hours.


    need to wait more to see how this turn out tho.