Posts by jimeous

Talent to burn

Quote from wsoet

I've been tracking Third Generation girl group concert attendance, and for Twice in 2024, I'm showing attendance of 572161 over 11 shows, with only o‍ne of those shows being in the US. So these numbers are clearly incomplete.

Yep...

I don't think many of TWICE's Japanese Concerts have been listed on Billboard

Woooohoooooo !!!!!

I can't wait to miss out on another TWICE Concert

She really is a great Senior to Female Idols.

I miss Gwangsoo

Quote from crystalblues

I FORGOT ABOUT THOSE FORWARD SALES THINGIES. Those honestly kinda do screw the retailers as they end up with more product they need sometimes

I can't blame HYBE though because I suspect the Big 3 does it too also CUBE definitely does it with G-Idle

Quote from crystalblues

The way it was worded when it was announced, I will be honest.... sounds like the girls did not want to renew and declined.

Ohhhhh !!!!

That seems weird.....

They were having the best Sales up to that point..... but HYBE does have those "forward sales" where they apparently get Retailers to pre-buy for Events.

Quote from crystalblues

Oh goodness, you do not know Fromis' full history, they were popular before joining HYBE and then just became popular again after 3 years of not doing much as far as promotions. "Fun" was everywhere when it came out as was "Love Bomb" and "Feel Good". They faded out of popularity from late 2021 until summer of this year. From 2018-2021 they were doing great.

Now as far as Pledis being a sausage fest. ..... I mean they put After School on the back burner and refused to listen to those girls even though for almost 10 years they were the only ones other than Son Dam-bi making Pledis any money really. It was not until later in Nu'ests' career as a group that they started making the company quite a bit of money sadly. I love Nu'est but they failed a lot because Pledis never let them have a clear musical direction and were inconsistent in promotions. And then of course the Pristin debacle.. so yea it is a bit of a sausage measuring contest there, which thankfully Seventeen has been winning for years now so the execs just kinda sit down and zip it and let them do whatever they want.

There is a big difference from selling your highest album at 60k and the highest song ranked was 57th under Off the Record compared to a high of 2nd on the Song Charts and 192k album sales which they achieved under Pledis.

And it is a sausage factory as Pledis didn't renew their contracts despite getting their best in their most recent comeback.

yep.... Nations' Girl Group

It has nothing to do with HYBE, they never managed the group, Pledis did and they only had them on a short contract where they actually made them relevant.

Pledis is another sausage factory so even if they made fromis_9 relevant, they never really had long term plans for them.

Impressive, when you consider that Lisa and Jennie are considered bigger than her in BP and globally.

Naturally I think it's a bop...

But I'd rank this behind The Feels and I want you back when comparing with English Songs TWICE has done...... and probably the English version of Cry for me...

"I can't stop me" is the last TWICE song which I feel had the Title as an impact in the Song, the rest just aren't memorable which includes this one.

I'm still waiting for a return to lyrics that make the title the main hook....

Hey Boy would be a more memorable Title for the Song as Strategy is just buried by the hook.

tbh, possibly Jessie could do it but there aren't a lot of Korean Female Rappers that could fit well with TWICE and not look like an Idol Rapper.

Yep.....

That explains why it's the best that TWICE has done in China, if JYPE knew that from the start TWICE could have sold 20 million albums in the China Market alone..

They will lose potential earnings but haven't lost anything especially as they will likely sue for potential earnings from their contracts and it won't be cheap.

Quote from jojo7

But they are not very well-known domestically and internationally and they are more of a band than a group

All the groups I've mentioned are well known domestically..... as for Internationally.......

There aren't many Kpop groups that are really well known internationally except for BTS and BP.

CNBlue, FT Island, N.Flying, Day6, 2AM, Xdinary Heroes, The Rose....

These are some of the Kpop Groups that come to mind when talking about not being typically Kpop Idols.

But yea, they are the exceptions for Kpop Idols as they need to shake their asses and most did train to do that.

TWICE has 15 Korean Songs ranked in the Top 10 of the Gaon/Circle Charts.

TWICE has 11 Korean Songs ranked in the Top 10 of the Japan Hot 100.

TWICE has 12 Japanese Songs ranked in the Top 10 of the Japan Hot 100.

TWICE has 2 English Songs ranked in the Top 10 of the Japan Hot 100.

TWICE has 20 Korean Title Songs ranked in the Top 10 of the US World Chart

TWICE has 1 Japanese Song ranked in the Top 10 of the US World Chart

TWICE has 6 Korean B Side Songs ranked in the Top 10 of the US World Chart

TWICE does have a longer career and larger Discography

A great episode, I really like Narae :)

JiHyo is also very comfortable with her and it sounds like Sana turned up for the Episode or maybe it was JiHyo giving an example.

If you are talking Minors, then in South Korea, it's 19 years and younger based on their year of birth, the Lunar Calendar is not used in Korean Law.

Acting Training and Kpop Training are very different where Kpop Training is generally Singing, Dancing and an extra Language, some Kpop Companies do have Acting.

Being a Kpop Idol also restricts Dating Life, Smoking, Alcohol and other such devices that are deemed as "Adult". You will find that some of these things are used a plot devices even in Kids Shows which is why it's probably much safer for a child to train as a Kpop Idol than even a Child Actor/Actress in America.

Ultimately, Kpop is considered to be on the same level as Kids Music by South Koreans, largely due to Kpop Companies targeting teens and Koreans saying they grow out of it by College.

So it make sense that a Company would want to debut a person near the same age group as the fans they are marketing toward.

There are laws in SK that protect Minors in Entertainment with restricted work hours and imposing curfews but for a Minor that is an Athlete or just a normal Student, they have no protections despite conditions that are more extreme.