Posts by Yama-Chan

Quote from KpopJop

This would have taken so much time, I'm in awe

I'm used to diving deep for data for my OG Mamamoo threads over the years

I knew this data was compiled somewhere. It was just a matter of finding it

I don't think this is a controversial statement at all, but we'll see if I get pushback and accused of setting them up again

We're a couple weeks removed from NewJeans hitting the 1 year mark as a group, and I stand on what I said when they were only 3 months old--their completely out of nowhere debut and instant superstardom is the biggest and most successful debut I've seen since becoming a K-Pop fan more than a decade ago

But you don't have to take my word for it. If you're curious at all about the numbers (there are a lot and it's ABSURD) click the spoilers below--courtesy of @NewJeansCharts.

I decided not to include any accomplishments from their most recent album, since I did say debut, and they were still barely 6 months old when Ditto/OMG dropped, but you can throw 3 songs simultaneously on the Billboard Hot 100 (Super Shy, ETA, Cool With You) and 5 songs in the same calendar year if you'd like--both girl group records.

It may be hard to believe with all the stats above, but I'm not a success stan in the slightest. I got hooked on NewJeans because I simply ador ( ) their music

But even if I wasn't a fan in the slightest, I would still be talking about them in superlatives, because of how they continue to speedrun accomplishments I'm sure most of us thought required years for even the biggest groups to achieve.

This is literally the perfect representation of their careers since debut:

I've said my piece. This is probably my last NJ thread for the year, if I want to keep my MooMoo cred

ALL opinions are welcome. Even if you decide to roast me. I'd rather people call me stupid or crazy than say nothing and let my thread flop. I worked hard to find these spreadsheets

EDIT: Changed the title because I'm not volunteering as tribute to go through the laborious task of figuring out how to fairly compare first gen accomplishments to fourth gen accomplishments--at least K-Pop was global by 2nd generation and on.

All of Crayon Pop

Quote from loneranger1

1.6 B views Boombayah

800 M views whistle

of course, many many opinions

Rookie numbers compared to the song superior to all our favs

Quote from littlemissnoname

they're pretty and have support from ARMY/Hybe. That's the sole reason they're popular.

Quote from loneranger1

then compair boombayah o whistle, or any song from BP first year, and they are way better songs, raps and choreos than New Jeans. Period

In exactly zero timelines will Boombayah or Whistle be considered more legendary songs than Hype Boy or Attention, let alone Ditto.

You can't actually believe that

Quote from Roses-are-Rosie

Don't use this Flop manga Yama

Even Jujutsu kaisen is more interesting than this undending and boring show

Coming for MMM and NJ is one thing, but how you going to throw daggers at One Piece? That's an L take and you know it!

I'ma let this go or this will turn into a whole ass anime debate lmao

Quote from KpopJop

save face too

Quote from icyruios

Errrrrr ok I guess what matters is you are happy

I've been a happy K-Pop fan for nearly a decade.

My ultimate favs take a backseat to no group when it comes to talent or career longevity

I just always call it how I see it when it comes to girl group discussions

I've seen BP, Twice, NJ and MMM in person. Twice and MMM multiple times. I'm not just a biased, angry stan raging behind a keyboard!

Quote from icyruios

2022 is all IVE

2023 is all New Jeans

Second half of 2022 belong to NewJeans, and it's been their world since.

NewJeans is a movement, not a trend. Best believe that!

Quote from ForgottenSoul

I find it weird you call out manufactured rap when literally all of KPOP is manufactured , them being manufactured rapping is no different then a singer being manufactured. Its pretty easy to be consisent when all your songs have literally 1 note.

Let's not act like we don't know what they're talking about here.

In the world of Hip Hop and rapping, writing your own bars is literally a requirement to be respected as an artist.

Being given notes and lyrics to sing is not comparable in any way to someone writing your bars for you in rap

Quote from Marmaladeheart

I swear put any group before … vs Blackpink and we get the next hit thread…

My weeb mind can only see the current girl group hierarchy in One Piece logic.

BP and Twice are like the Yonko currently reigning over the seas, and NJ are the best of the worst generation coming up and taking over their territories to start a new era

Quote from ForgottenSoul

Funny you mention 2NE1 but as a BlackJack they were called untalented and had members good at different things which is pretty much like BP.

Yeah. And I think they were better at those things than BlackPink.

I'm not going to turn this into a 2NE1 vs. BP discussion, but my opinion is that everything BP does 2NE1 did the same or better, and I'll always favor the one who came first. It's like comparing Michael Jordan to Kobe Bryant.

I don't think 2NE1 was the most talented of their era, and I don't think BP is more talented than 2NE1. Both statements can be true.

Fair assessment. No lies detected.

Of the top girl groups of the third generation, you could argue BlackPink is the least talented (compared to MMM, RV, Twice and GFriend).

They aren't a super high bar to clear when it comes to the categories of singing or dancing, if you look at the group as a whole.

They've really come into their own since debut, but they'll always kind of be 2NE1 Lite to me

Quote from crystalblues

I am actually working on Mamamoo right now and am shocked they got enough talk to get a badge considered.

MooMoos are quiet but fiercely loyal. When we say we'll never let go of Mamamoo we mean it!

The outfits were on point and on theme with this being a Jamboree concert. Really heads up decision by their stylists or whoever made that call.

Quote from Blue2012

Not anything against them. They are doing really well for a Kpop act. They aren't popular in the US though.

Quote from Blue2012

Which public?

You know "public friendly" is Kpop fan lingo for doing well on local charts in Korea.

This isn't a thing in the US.

They had the best selling album on the Billboard 200 last week, beating out the soundtrack to Barbie, the biggest movie of the summer.

They have 3 songs on the Billboard Hot 100 currently. They've had 5 songs make it on the chart in the same calendar year, becoming only the fourth girl group (not just K-Pop) in history to do so.

They just performed at Lollapalooza and over 70,000 people filed in to watch their set, treating them like the headline act of the day.

Pretty sure those are all things in the US. Disputing the popularity of NewJeans in the US is so 2022, friend.

Quote from catzi

It's like the 535353th time you quote me when I'm not talking to you

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Because your responses never fail to entertain me

Quote from catzi

One thing about ive antis is that they're always weirdos

You finally found someone who matches your energy