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that song has 135,446,845 streams on spotify & was trending but people deny it
Because of it being the World Cup and dumb BTS stans like you. It was a dumb song, with no redeeming qualities, other than for you Jungkook was involved in it.
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Meh, horrible song, a song that went nowhere. Nobody remembers that fucking song. It is shouldn't be qualify as his "debut," if only for the good of his own career.
Jungkook IMO. He hasn't even had a solo album yet he's already got an RIAA Gold single (Left & Right) to his name, not to mention he charted on the Hot 100 before that with My Time under BTS.
He's easily one of the most popular idols worldwide and one of the top3 most popular among BTS here in the US.
Don't be so presumptuous as to claim "Left and Right" as a song for his own. It's not even his song, it was Charlie Puth's song. I swear these fucking BTS maniacs...
he had an amazing debut stage (regardless of what others say) & reached a wider-audience . Apart from being in BTS , he was able to perform solo & get more recognition. With the right production & management, he can have an amazing album and maybe do another festival thingy like Hobi did for Lollapalooza and ARMYs would definitely buy/attend bcs he's one of the most popular members of BTS
What amazing "debut stage" of Jungkook are you referring to?
There are 4 acts that I think are in that tier of icons: Seo Taiji for being the first archetype of a Kpop group, BIGBANG in China, BoA in Japan, and BTS to literally everywhere else.
Other acts certainly helped (SES, HOT, SNSD, SuJu, TVXQ, KARA, EXO, Twice, BLACKPINK), but the 4 I named fundamentally changed the way Kpop was promoted and sold in at least 1 music markets. And for BTS, it's several markets that they opened the doors to.
You're just listing groups, you talk half-baked bullshit.
your personal opinion doesnt speak for everyone elses though and even so quality doesnt mean relevancy
"quality doesnt mean relevancy" ... Yeah, don't we know that in this shithole we called K-pop.
You need to qualify relevancy-- is there a timetable for this "relevancy"? Cause a shit back catalog would definitely affect how relevant you are in years' time. In other words, I'm saying Big Bang is really overrated.
I don't know what was worse because of it being well-worn and repetitive and pathetic: the "BlackPink in your area" or "BlackPink is the revolution". The latter sounds like it's was marketing rank perfume to young middle school girls.
I was working too much when this came out a few months ago to really pay attention to it.
But I just sat down and watched it.
Ohhhh..... Really really cool.
This feels like IVE really hitting their stride.
I love they've avoided the recent trend of 36 songs in 1 and just focused on making a song that is coherently laid out with natural fit. Dive is constructed to be just varied enough in its different sound shifts to keep it fresh and interesting but it all still "relates".
It's got such a cool overall style. They picked their feel and pulled it off so well, in a tight well executed package. Loving Love Dives kind of epic coolness and restrained understated swagger.
And lol at the idea some seem to throw out that this is Wonyoung and friends. Huh? IVE is so wonderfully varied and distinct. Each member really sticks out in their own way with their own charm and aura. I can't understand how anyone could come to the conclusion this group is just a Wonyoung vehicle. I kept wanting to cheer each time the MV scene would shift to the next members turn and they just rocked it with their presence.
Anyway.... I know you all have probably talked this song to death as it's been out for awhile. But I went back as I had missed it and was definitely feeling it.
Love Dive swoops in with this deft efficient precision, it knows exactly what it is and does it excellently. My god how refreshing.
IVE's shaping up to be a highlight of this new gen. Can't wait to see where they go from here.
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All that justification for a mediocre song at best. The overcompensation is nauseating.
Does it give you pleasure to speak shit to people over the internet?
Is your life so insignificant that you feel the need to bullshit people you never met, and never will?
Just chill. Really, just chill
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If people deserve to be shitted on, then yes. Otherwise, like motherfuckin' Dostoevsky said, "Without God, everything is permitted". With no checks and balances, we got people like you to run the world. Feel-good liberalism with no moral backbone.