Considering the state of the charts and release day I was expecting a much stronger start for Ive
Posts by Beesknees
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If you want to take on the onerous task of quantifying something as nebulous and opaque as relative industry impact, then be my guest. I would love to see what data you have gathered to support your position.
But please don't use random anecdotes from flop survival competition shows as your ultimate proof of concept please.
By the end of this year, it will have been a decade with Twice. There have been a near innumerable amount of instances where they were chosen as role models and sunbaes aspiring idols look up to.
As an aside, I don't have a dog in this race in the slightest, so I'm as close as you'll get to an unbiased opinion. Whereas, I know you're a die hard Blink and that has likely influenced your take by a lot.
We just recently had a Gallup survey around 21st century kpop acts. That’s also backed up by longevity of their songs in SK and elsewhere. People consuming BP content more and rating them more highly is an output of the impact they’ve had relative to Twice.
Outside of Japan, Twice rarely took anything to another level or gave it a new lease of life. Twice at their peak were popular for their cute music, aegyo, and level of content. The first two being remnants of the 2nd gen. Their lack of solo endeavours was probably one of their most unique aspects but no label follows that route.
I’m not a blink
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Nothing I said says Twice didn’t have impact. It’s relative to BP where they fall behind.
There are more female idols looking to be BP and Jennie then Twice and Nayeon.
Pretty sure it was the R U Next show where all the contestants were asked who their idol is and BP basically dominated it completely.
Even Itzy talk more about their adulation for BP and their members than Twice.
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People talking impact as if BP songs haven’t outdone Twice songs in longevity in SK.
Let’s not even get started on impact on concepts and how labels look to promote their groups and idols.
JYPE’s own gg’s donn’t even look to promote like Twice.
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The 9 number ones record is so incredibly overrated
Both Sistar and 2NE1 also have 9. SNSD would have 9 or more if Gaon was around in the 2000s.
All those groups did there’s over a longer period of time as well, which is more impressive when you consider the churn of girl groups.
If New Jeans in 2023 released a song every month with the old charting system and power of downloads? They would have probably hit number one each time even if just for a week or so.
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They’re not similar enough for this thread to make much sense
A lot of factors go into a song quality and its reception
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The more this goes on the less I think this works out for NJ, though hopefully I'm proven wrong
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Twice fans talking about half sold out stadiums
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Would put them 4th after New Jeans.
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Feel like they must have something up their sleeves to be this confident about not paying any fees, or they’ve seriously been misadvised somewhere
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This is what "irrelevance" looks like I guess.
Keep mulling over those numbers and maybe one day your faves can be half as "irrelevant" as Twice.
You know who else don't give dates for their next project?
Dead people.
RIP NewJeans (2022-2024)
That’s some strong reading comprehension you get there bud
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They stopped being relevant to people outside their fandom awhile ago
Luckily for them though the other JYPE girl groups are even more irrelevant
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To be fair, if Blackpink was the one who released 'Drip' I would think it will be a #1 Hit.
YG also tried to promote Babymonster abit more than his normal groups but it aint working. I find it so shocking that a YG girlgroup is not doing well in k-charts
Maybe their reputation in korea is really down the drain
Their kpop groups have lost the Big Bang aura their previous groups could get attached to
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Compete and utter cringe
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So anything interesting from her interview?