Posts by icyruios

It has always been this bad

It was actually worse last time because older groups just use the recorded track

At least groups nowadays bother to re-record a prerecorded track to lie to the audience.

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I didn’t lose the plot btw!

They said aespa only has 1 successful cb which is totally wrong!

Aespa had their cb 1 month ago even without that cb Aespa would surpass Ive

Anyways Aespa is widening the gap

The gap that they are widening is them and their microphones because they can't even lipsync properly on MAMA

Wait sorry let me take that back I'm not supposed to attack the group

Stream Whiplash

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Aespa tts peaks on melon since next level

NL -1, Savage- 1 G-8, Spicy- 1, Drama- 2, SN- 1 Arma-5, Whiplash-2

So how Aespa was a flop group?

Ive’s last tts peaked at Number 2 with Heya and Accendio couldn’t even crack top 30 of melon if I’m not wrong

Accendio is already out of melon top 100, while heya is at 54 in daily charts!

While Armageddon which peaked only at 5 now it is at 38 daily melon top 100.

Drama also has much better longevity compared to Baddie! Drama is in top70 melon while Baddie is out of top 100

Aespa surpassed Ive in Circle chart

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Aespa Spotify streams in 2024 1.5bn streams

How much Ive had in 2024? I couldn’t find info but they are much behind Aespa on Spotify

Spotify Global entries in 2024

Aespa: 4 Ive:0

Apple Music global entries in 2024

Aespa: 4 Ive: 0

Best selling female albums of 2024

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Drama is also bigger hit than any Ive song internationally

So how Aespa only had 1 successful cb?

Now tell me how Ive is bigger than Aespa?

And yes I included Ive in top 3!

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You lost the plot

It's not aespa vs IVE.

It's IVE not being top 3

Which is peak delulu

I mean it would be embarrassing for a big 4 group if aespa could not surpass IVE digital points by not that much mind you (compared to 1st) with 2 comebacks

If anything, the fact that IVE is so close to aespa in points despite having 1 comeback vs aespa 2 means IVE backend discography from past years have better longevity than aespa.

Quote from gerrard174

Gentle reminder to all: How Sweet, Klaxon, Whiplash all also peaked at #2 this year. Let's not apply double standards

Disbandment for all groups I fear

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Sooyoung fighting this war like a real soldier bc he wants that It girl status just to Karina when Wonyoung still exists and it's still a huge name in Asia.

I'll never understand kpop fans calling a group that peaked at #2 flop when their faves peaked lower for several cbs, but suddenly they are the top group after ONE big cb while the others cbs are peaking at #2 that is supposed to be a flop.

Longevity is better than peak for 4th gen, none of your faves are #1 for years, they switch spots so act with common sense when trying to discredit groups in criterias that your own faves can qualify as discredited too...

Anyways, yes, Ive, NJs and Aespa are the top3 bc WW INFLUENCE in charts was non existent this year for your faves if you want to idk, compare to BP solo numbers? What ww charts are you all being so brave about? 2m streams on Spotify? a top group with great presence in Spotify is BP numbers or illit magnetic, should we put them in this talk?

If you count 2M on Spotify a huge ww feature you all better add Ive ww tour with the biggest 4th gen attendance just behind SKZ.

Anyways, girls on power and Idle is 4th place!

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It’s so dumb to dismiss Ive when they’re having such a great year, just in different and even bigger areas like tours and sales. Not to mention, their peak at 2 in all charts for their cb this year. How is that being considered as flop or unsuccessful? I know they’ll crush it next year, and now same people who underestimated them are suddenly acting like they never tried to knock them off the top. I know, many acting this way just because they’re not from the Big 4, so the position looks not stable for some which again stupid. Let’s be real, if it was Lsfm or Nmixc in their position with those achievements they had, no one would even be debating this.

Oh school them speak your truth don't ever let anyone tell you that you are wrong you are right and always right

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I know this seems like fun but I dislike how much we speak about the looks of women. Is she capable or not, that's the most important. We will see how she does.

Who has better visuals her or Min Hee Jin?

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That's what's most mindblowing to me.

If other ggs aren't able to keep up with Ive numbers in tour and sales, then how are they really the top group if they are surpassed by a group that supposedly isn't?

I was ready with a rant about how SM stans are so brave these days but they were quiet as hell when their faves weren't doing as well or when their faves have scandals and shit but I'ma be nice and save it in them drafts

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catzi

World Tour and outselling the rest of 4th gen

But apparently no international impact

What does this mean for other 4th Gen GGs? Disbandment?

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Alyssa edwards???

Oh you know it

So what I've learned so far is that

IVE is spiraling and disbanding soon because they be flopping and their fans are non existent

And having a sold out world tour means they have non existent fans in voting and that they have no international impact despite a WORLD tour

Please stream to save them from disbandment

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Woodz's Drowning is slowly but steady rising. It might not reach the top due to bunch of chart-topping artists recent releases but it was pretty admirable.

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As it should

It is hands down one of the best solo songs in the recent years

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seriously, who tf is #7

the melon comments are all just asking if it's sajaegi lmfao

No clue

Usually if it's some random song I'm just assuming it's some ost

I never listen to all their B-side

But justice for Illusion it should have been a title

Hot take

For 3rd gen GG, Seungyeon clears and it's not even close

2nd Gen: Hyolyn

4th Gen: Chaeyeon

5th Gen: Emma (BadVillian)

It's an actual tragedy

Also can you imagine outstreaming and having almost reaching 2bil points on Circle Charts compared to every other group other than NJs

And having multiple songs in the chart, multiple songs in the top 20, top 10, top 5 of the charts

And winning not a single award?

#Day6Robbed

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Exactly

All they've wanted from the beginning was to work as they'd been and be protected from Hybe and the other labels

Ador can't and won't take any action on behalf of NewJeans but they can organize to send $3 million to Hybe's failing gaming label. Priorities

I have a feeling they aren't going to do shit to any of the demands.

They probably be thinking "if we let them have what they want now so easily, then how are we gonna control them in future?"

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Did Viviz qualify for rookie awards?

4th gen queens

Ended IVESPAJEANS

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These are contract violations

They're obligated to give Ador time to rectify these issues.

It gives them strength in court to prove the contract must be terminated at no fault of theirs

Tbh those demands are...pretty basic?

I was expecting more they seem easy to meet